It would certainly feel a lot different, more like the first Halo games, but people tend to like to get places faster
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> It would certainly feel a lot different, more like the first Halo games, but people tend to like to get places faster
Not on the maps in Halo 5 they don’t. The maps were elongated to accommodate for players sprinting.
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> It would certainly feel a lot different, more like the first Halo games, but people tend to like to get places faster
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> You got to places a lot faster in classic Halo. I will repost this video until the day I (or the unfounded notion that sprint=faster) die.
This is true that sprint alone will not get you places any faster in H5 compared to older Halos, but if we were to include more base traits such as thrust and clamber, players do in fact get places faster in H5 both horizontally and vertically. With that said, getting places faster is not always a good thing, because we want to give players enough time to reorient themselves after gunfights. If players are able to die, respawn, and zoom back to where they were in such little time, that can have negative consequences on the pace of the match because you’re essentially devaluing successful kills. This is a big reason why I don’t like H5’s map design because there are way too many routes to every part of the map. There are rarely any natural obstacles in the maps that players couldn’t just sprint+jump+thrust+clamber over.
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> > You got to places a lot faster in classic Halo. I will repost this video until the day I (or the unfounded notion that sprint=faster) die.
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> This is true that sprint alone will not get you places any faster in H5 compared to older Halos, but if we were to include more base traits such as thrust and clamber, players do in fact get places faster in H5 both horizontally and vertically. With that said, getting places faster is not always a good thing, because we want to give players enough time to reorient themselves after gunfights. If players are able to die, respawn, and zoom back to where they were in such little time, that can have negative consequences on the pace of the match because you’re essentially devaluing successful kills. This is a big reason why I don’t like H5’s map design because there are way too many routes to every part of the map. There are rarely any natural obstacles in their maps that players couldn’t just sprint+jump+thrust+clamber over.
At that point, it’s not really about Sprint, it’s about Sprint + all Spartan Abilities put together (which has its own set of problems). And it’s not like those other abilities have to go either.
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> If players are able to die, respawn, and zoom back to where they were in such little time, that can have negative consequences on the pace of the match because you’re essentially devaluing successful kills.
I agree, remember when Halo 4 had Instant Respawn?
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> Considering he said he didn’t like it, continuing this line of discussion further would be impolite. I can only say that I’m sorry. Not that he needs to accept my apology, but that’s all I can offer.
*she. Just for future reference.
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> It doesn’t make sense why you would include that. No matter how you slice it or how much of a zealot Balanced actually is, it very outwardly reeks of a lightly disguised smear on your interlocutor to even include that kind of remark.
Tsassi apologized to her for God’s sake. Why the heck are you continuing to get offended for something so trivial?
Btw, stop quoting an entire post if you’re only going to respond to part of it for a response as big as Tsassi’s. There is a source code button on the far right side of the formatting options above the post box that you can use to edit the quote and include only the paragraph you’re responding to. It makes it a lot easier for the other people to read through what you have to say without having to bypass 5 paragraphs worth of writing.
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> I can only say that I’m sorry. Not that he needs to accept my apology, but that’s all I can offer.
None required but I appreciate the thought anyway. I know in the past I’ve made some posts in this discussion out of emotion (though I have tried to tighten this up to ensure that I present my arguments better; particularly to provide distinction between fact and opinion). IMO this is sort of just an unnecessary tangent at this point, as we are clearly just passionate about our own respective stances on sprint.
And it’s not like I’m inflexible either- I’ve been able to view things differently and/or evolve my own way of thinking about sprint. If anti sprinters got their way in the next Halo game for instance, I’d still be happy for them; understanding why they wanted those changes. And while I wouldn’t prefer or enjoy those older movement mechanics coming back, I might actually still try it out (this is different from my stance before- a few weeks ago I wouldn’t have even bought or played the next Halo if it brought back classic movement controls). I still wouldn’t pre order the game and my hype for Halo as a whole would certainly be dampened, but I’d still play the beta and probably eventually get the game (either on a future sale or when it comes to the gold pass thing). I wouldn’t blame 343i for making the decision either way on sprint, though if they do drop it for Infinite I’d hope they’d consider bringing it back in a future game.
Back on topic: over time I’ve come to better understand where anti sprinters are coming from… When I disagree on various points it’s not that I don’t appreciate those opinions or think their words don’t have meaning.
For instance one example is that thanks to participating in this thread I can understand how some anti sprinters could find sprint restrictive (Whereas beforehand I never felt this way about sprint nor would’ve understood how anyone else would see it this way). Conversely I still think classic movement is actually what is restrictive (to me anyway) because I think having the two “gear,” (walk/sprint) option enables me to be able to choose when I actually need to move faster as the situation dictates…
It’s not like I’d expect to “convert,” an anti sprinter over to my way of thinking on something like this because honestly (to me) it’s pure opinion and personal preference. Where “hang ups,” happen and we reach impasses in this discussion is when either side tries to project opinion as fact. I think it’s worth both sides discussing, reflecting, and truly considering what’s really fact versus assumption/preference when it comes to
sprint.
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> At that point, it’s not really about Sprint, it’s about Sprint + all Spartan Abilities put together (which has its own set of problems). And it’s not like those other abilities have to go either.
For sure. Just wanted to point out that if we’re talking about getting around the maps in H5 compared to older Halos, it wouldn’t be fair to leave out the other abilities. That argument could work for H4, but not H5.
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> I agree, remember when Halo 4 had Instant Respawn?
Wow, I forgot about that and now I have to try and unremember it. It even showcased Promethean vision. OMG, H4 was such a -Yoink- show.
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> Wow, I forgot about that and now I have to try and unremember it. It even showcased Promethean vision. OMG, H4 was such a -Yoink- show.
Okay but the important thing to remember here is that General Cube was right. He was a visionary before his time.
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> Wow, I forgot about that and now I have to try and unremember it. It even showcased Promethean vision. OMG, H4 was such a -Yoink- show.
Remember all those Camo Boltshot campers back when the secondary fire would one-shot you and if you crouched camp wouldn’t give the radar scrambling effect? You would be sprinting to get back to your team and just pow do it again.
Oh God I don’t even know why I played that game as much as I did…
what do you guys think of guns up sprint?
but before they even put any sort of ability in every gamemode they should try in in the beta then the casual side of gamemodes
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> what do you guys think of guns up sprint?
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> but before they even put any sort of ability in every gamemode they should try in in the beta then the casual side of gamemodes
I would just always Sprint then, which kinda defeats the purpose. Why would you ever not Sprint?
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> > but before they even put any sort of ability in every gamemode they should try in in the beta then the casual side of gamemodes
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> I would just always Sprint then, which kinda defeats the purpose. Why would you ever not Sprint?
I meant it like a limited time ability, or a power up.
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> I meant it like a limited time ability, or a power up.
If it’s going to be both limited time and a power up, then that’s pretty similar to Speed Boost, which already exists and kinda does it better.
If it’s going to be one or the other, than that’s pretty similar to the previous implementations of Sprint in Halo Reach and Halo 4, which apparently didn’t solve the problem.
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> > I meant it like a limited time ability, or a power up.
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> If it’s going to be both limited time and a power up, then that’s pretty similar to Speed Boost, which already exists and kinda does it better.
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> If it’s going to be one or the other, than that’s pretty similar to the previous implementations of Sprint in Halo Reach and Halo 4, which apparently didn’t solve the problem.
you could shoot while running in halo reach??
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> > > > I would just always Sprint then, which kinda defeats the purpose. Why would you ever not Sprint?
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> > > I meant it like a limited time ability, or a power up.
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> > If it’s going to be one or the other, than that’s pretty similar to the previous implementations of Sprint in Halo Reach and Halo 4, which apparently didn’t solve the problem.
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> you could shoot while running in halo reach??
No, but it was limited time.
You could create a custom power up that was similar to Speed Boost and do it that way. I guess technically you would be shooting while running there.
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> > > > > I would just always Sprint then, which kinda defeats the purpose. Why would you ever not Sprint?
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> > > > I meant it like a limited time ability, or a power up.
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> > > If it’s going to be both limited time and a power up, then that’s pretty similar to Speed Boost, which already exists and kinda does it better.
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> > > If it’s going to be one or the other, than that’s pretty similar to the previous implementations of Sprint in Halo Reach and Halo 4, which apparently didn’t solve the problem.
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> > you could shoot while running in halo reach??
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> No, but it was limited time.
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> You could create a custom power up that was similar to Speed Boost and do it that way. I guess technically you would be shooting while running there.
yea true, they need to make something unique that adds to the classic halo gameplay,
At this point they should increase bms, it’s getting too complicated.