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> A lot of this post I’ve quoted has a bunch of obvious flaws (pushing the thumb stick halfway is definitely no substitute for a defined two gear system) and frankly my coughing fits have me too exhausted to write the obligatory mini-essay. But this quip here I’ve quoted: it stands out. Of all the people to be calling Balanced a zealot, you are definitely not all that qualified considering just how much time you’ve spent here and the average length of your posts. It can easily be argued that you’re just as much of, if not more of, a zealot than Balanced. I feel like this remark of yours up there is just unnecessary and it feels like a subtle jab at your interlocutor.
Well, calling me a zealot is probably reasonably accurate. It’s not a description I can deny.
I think it’s important to recognize that most people out there really don’t care about sprint, one way or the other, nearly as much as any of us does. We, every one of us here who come to this thread daily, are the zealots. However, unlike there are numerous people who really dislike sprint, there really aren’t that many people who are really into it. And based on everything I’ve seen, xBalancedForcex is really into sprint, much more than anyone I’ve met before. I mean, usually people who like sprint a lot might just drop by here to say a few words in defense of sprint and leave it at that. But xBalancedForcex has most of those people beat by sheer post count alone. On top of that, however, he’s the only sprint fan whom I’ve actively, regularly seen bring sprint up as a really important feature in other threads not directly about sprint. As I said, I’ve not seen anyone as passionate about their love for sprint, and that would obviously make their opinion more difficult to sway than the opinion of the average person. I would expect some of the anti-sprint arguments to sway people’s opinions who don’t care much about sprint one way or the other, but I wouldn’t expect those same arguments to sway someone who very deeply believes in sprint.
Also, on a on a tangential note related to my post length: it’s not because I’m a zealot. If I only cared about spreading the anti-sprint gospel, I wouldn’t write like that. I’d write short, meaningless posts void of any substance regurgitating common claims about how sprint “destroys Halo” without any justification or critical thought paid to them. The length is me trying to scrutinize my own views. I don’t claim I’m great at it, I don’t claim my arguments are perfect, but it’s all me trying to be honest with myself.
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> - You can describe sprint with whatever meaningless buzzwords you can come up with.Ouch, I guess? If nothing else I’d like to think that the words in my posts have meaning, even if you disagree with them.
But, you see, “focused”, “controlled”, and “directed” aren’t meaningful descriptions of the restrictions of sprint to anyone who doesn’t already believe that sprint is just absolutely great. Considering those words were used in a comment addressed to someone who obviously doesn’t like those restrictions, those words don’t serve any purpose in explaining your views to that person. They just serve to pad your own belief rather than explaining it. The issue is of course further compounded by the fact that you denied that these restrictions are restrictions at all.
It’s a pet peeve of mine. People in these discussions choose certain words and phrases, not because they have any explanatory power, but because they think those sound good.
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> I understand and have read your proposition for an alternative movement system. I’m not suggesting that your proposed movement system couldn’t function, rather it wouldn’t be my preference. Halo has always offered relatively fixed movement systems. You either walk at a fixed pace or in modern Halo you can also sprint at a fixed pace. All I’m suggesting is that trying to increase the range of movement into one thumb stick like disrupts this control over movement that Halo’s always offered to players. Sprinting is deliberate; it’s a choice that players make when they determine it’s necessary to move faster. Are you suggesting it’s better to take away this consistency and make walking equate to, let’s say 75% of a depressed joystick? How can a player achieve any consistent pace for waking when they always have to overthink these movement controls? The only movement consistency would come in the form of max speed (100% of a depressed joystick), which doesn’t offer the control and presicison of movement that we have right now in Halo.
You’re overthinking it. The system I’m suggesting is the system we’ve had all the way since movement with analog sticks became a thing in the 90’s. We’ve had it in all Halo games. And the thing is: people never cared. Because it turns out that once players can do everything while moving at maximum speed, they will do everything while moving at maximum speed. The movement control absolutely is there for all those who want to use it, but nobody wants to use it.
No, you have to force people to move at those lower speeds by making certain actions impossible at high speeds. Then all players are using at least part of the movement range have. Not because they like it, not because they think moving at lower than maximum speed is fun (obviously, if they did, they would’ve done it long before sprint), but because they have to in order to be able to play the game properly. If you have to force people to do a thing in order to get them to do the thing, it becomes kind of disingenious to call it control, unless you’re talking about yourself.
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> I understand you disagree but (as an OG) to me classic movement is what’s restrictive.
Which is completely bizzare, because it allows you to do everything sprint does, and more. I can’t even say more than that, because there’s literrally nothing you can do with sprint that you couldn’t do without it.
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> Really though? I don’t want to elaborate (as surely this line of reasoning wouldn’t lead to anything positive) but I’ll just say I don’t agree with or appreciate this. I’m just trying to discuss sprint in the sprint discussion thread.
Really, I could’ve worded it differently, fleshed it out more, and I should’ve scrapped it when I ran out of time. I’m sorry. However, I maintain that 1) you’re the most passionate sprint fan I’ve ever met, and 2) therefore your opinion is much less likely to sway than the opinion of most people.