This video is a perfect example of how I feel playing halo with sprint. Halo 5 Beta - Sprint in a nutshell - YouTube
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> > > > > > The difference is that 343 made changes to Halo that were detrimental to the overall uniqueness of the franchise. The rest of those games, in most cases, made changes that didn’t alienate the original fan-base as much as Halo has.
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> > > > > So, lucky them, right?
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> > > > > > Also, why exactly can we not compare the success of different games? If one game has a 15 hour campaign and one game has a 4 hour campaign, am I not allowed to compare them and say why one might have been more successful?
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> > > > > There are successful games that are purely single player, and games that have no single player component to speak of. There are some amazing games that can be completed in a few hours, and terrible games that take ages to grind through. I don’t know what information you can glean from the number of hours one has to spend to complete the single player, it’s entirely arbitrary when it comes to the quality of that single player experience.
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> > > > I was simply using the hours as an example. I see no reason why we’re apparently not allowed to say ‘This game was better because of this’, or ‘This game would have been better if it had this.’ I’m not saying longer campaign = better campaign, in many cases I would much prefer an awesome 3 hour campaign over a mediocre 16 hour campaign. I’m just saying that there’s no reason not to compare games to see which one is better, and for what reasons.
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> > > > Also, what exactly do you mean by ‘So lucky them, right?’ I don’t see why Luck has anything to do with it. 343 made poor decisions with a lot of the changes they made to Halo. Other companies have been able to make changes to series, without completely ruining the series identity, and alienating the fanbase.
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> > > Which games have made changes to the series and retained their original fanbase?
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> > > Also, you can’t arbitrarily define Halo’s identity and then say it’s ruined. Halo’s “identity” is purely subjective. Everyone has a different idea of what it is.
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> > 343 changed things that didn’t need changing, added things that didn’t need adding, and removed things that shouldn’t have been removed. Change is not always a good thing.
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> > A large part of this is because 343 is trying to appeal to Non Halo fans, instead of the fans that Halo already has. They did this by making Halo more like other FPS’s and less like Halo, and therefore Halo lost it’s identity.
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> So halo’s identity boils down to sprint give me a break.
Um, no. That’s not what I said at all. I was only stating that sprint was part of it.
Please read my post correctly before responding thank you.
I remember back in Halo 3 days, when there was a big amount of people requesting for sprint because Halo 3 was TOO slow. Then in Reach Bungie implemented Sprint as an Armor Ability and a huge amount of people back then wanted everyone to have sprint alongside a second Armor Ability.
Two years later 343 added Sprint for everyone, alongside an Armor Ability, in Halo 4 but of course everyone believed that it is unbalanced, unneeded and out of place in a Halo game…
WHAT IS WRONG WITH US HALO COMMUNITY!!! XD
I rather keep sprint
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> I rather keep sprint
Why.
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> > > Some guy on Twitter said that Bravo said at rtx that Halo 6 will have Halo 5’s core gameplay. Can someone confirm that he said this because if it’s true then Halo might just die.
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> > I don’t have link, but I can confirm that this was said. Of course it’s going to be tweaked (like Spartan charge for instance), but it’s mostly going to be the same. Think of it like the change from 2 to 3. All I can say is please don’t just write it off. Get a good day in there before just writing it off because it has sprint in it.
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> Halo 6 has been written off for me. Ever since the abysmal failure they tried to pass off as BTB released, which was when I quit the MP altogether. Shortly after that, I made up my mind that 6 would be the first Halo I didn’t bother to pre-order and it would be a mere rental… unless some major changes happened, that were much more than just the retention of sprint. A rental will still allow me to give it its ‘good day’ but I hold out little confidence it’ll get more than the amount of time it takes me to finish the campaign… if… I can stomach it.
They have stated that halo 6 will have actual BTB maps.
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> > > > Some guy on Twitter said that Bravo said at rtx that Halo 6 will have Halo 5’s core gameplay. Can someone confirm that he said this because if it’s true then Halo might just die.
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> > > I don’t have link, but I can confirm that this was said. Of course it’s going to be tweaked (like Spartan charge for instance), but it’s mostly going to be the same. Think of it like the change from 2 to 3. All I can say is please don’t just write it off. Get a good day in there before just writing it off because it has sprint in it.
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> > Halo 6 has been written off for me. Ever since the abysmal failure they tried to pass off as BTB released, which was when I quit the MP altogether. Shortly after that, I made up my mind that 6 would be the first Halo I didn’t bother to pre-order and it would be a mere rental… unless some major changes happened, that were much more than just the retention of sprint. A rental will still allow me to give it its ‘good day’ but I hold out little confidence it’ll get more than the amount of time it takes me to finish the campaign… if… I can stomach it.
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> They have stated that halo 6 will have actual BTB maps.
Thank god for actual BTB maps
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> > > > > Some guy on Twitter said that Bravo said at rtx that Halo 6 will have Halo 5’s core gameplay. Can someone confirm that he said this because if it’s true then Halo might just die.
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> > > > I don’t have link, but I can confirm that this was said. Of course it’s going to be tweaked (like Spartan charge for instance), but it’s mostly going to be the same. Think of it like the change from 2 to 3. All I can say is please don’t just write it off. Get a good day in there before just writing it off because it has sprint in it.
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> > > Halo 6 has been written off for me. Ever since the abysmal failure they tried to pass off as BTB released, which was when I quit the MP altogether. Shortly after that, I made up my mind that 6 would be the first Halo I didn’t bother to pre-order and it would be a mere rental… unless some major changes happened, that were much more than just the retention of sprint. A rental will still allow me to give it its ‘good day’ but I hold out little confidence it’ll get more than the amount of time it takes me to finish the campaign… if… I can stomach it.
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> > They have stated that halo 6 will have actual BTB maps.
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> Thank god for actual BTB maps
Implying 343 Dev BTB maps will be any better than forger maps
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> > People saying they like Sprint because you can move faster.
> > How is that a good thing and why does Halo need it in it’s gameplay? I thought Halo already had great gameplay why don’t they just innovate outside the gameplay.
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> Elaborate on how you would innovate on halo 3.
Innovate outside of the gameplay. Improve forge and community features, better ways to connect and play with other players, better customization, improving the progression system, New equipment, new vehicles, New gamemodes that we have never seen before in any franchise. Could go on.
But nah instead 343 just do what other franchises are doing and throw in Sprint and they say “combat has evolved”. Then you’ll have the Halo 4 and 5 kids saying “Halo needed to evolve and you just want a Halo 3 clone.” Halo 2 wasn’t a Halo 1 clone and Halo 3 wasn’t a Halo 2 clone. You just innovate outside of the gameplay.
Go check out some of Favyn’s videos on YouTube.
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> > > Some guy on Twitter said that Bravo said at rtx that Halo 6 will have Halo 5’s core gameplay. Can someone confirm that he said this because if it’s true then Halo might just die.
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> > I don’t have link, but I can confirm that this was said. Of course it’s going to be tweaked (like Spartan charge for instance), but it’s mostly going to be the same. Think of it like the change from 2 to 3. All I can say is please don’t just write it off. Get a good day in there before just writing it off because it has sprint in it.
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> Halo 6 has been written off for me. Ever since the abysmal failure they tried to pass off as BTB released, which was when I quit the MP altogether. Shortly after that, I made up my mind that 6 would be the first Halo I didn’t bother to pre-order and it would be a mere rental… unless some major changes happened, that were much more than just the retention of sprint. A rental will still allow me to give it its ‘good day’ but I hold out little confidence it’ll get more than the amount of time it takes me to finish the campaign… if… I can stomach it.
H5’s campaign was bad too. Chief being 30% of the campaign… not halo.
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> > > People saying they like Sprint because you can move faster.
> > > How is that a good thing and why does Halo need it in it’s gameplay? I thought Halo already had great gameplay why don’t they just innovate outside the gameplay.
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> > Elaborate on how you would innovate on halo 3.
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> Innovate outside of the gameplay. Improve forge and community features, better ways to connect and play with other players, better customization, improving the progression system, New equipment, new vehicles, New gamemodes that we have never seen before in any franchise. Could go on.
> But nah instead 343 just do what other franchises are doing and throw in Sprint and they say “combat has evolved”. Then you’ll have the Halo 4 and 5 kids saying “Halo needed to evolve and you just want a Halo 3 clone.” Halo 2 wasn’t a Halo 1 clone and Halo 3 wasn’t a Halo 2 clone. You just innovate outside of the gameplay.
> Go check out some of Favyn’s videos on YouTube.
Favyn makes great videos on why need a new Halo without sprint.
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> > > > People saying they like Sprint because you can move faster.
> > > > How is that a good thing and why does Halo need it in it’s gameplay? I thought Halo already had great gameplay why don’t they just innovate outside the gameplay.
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> > > Elaborate on how you would innovate on halo 3.
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> > Innovate outside of the gameplay. Improve forge and community features, better ways to connect and play with other players, better customization, improving the progression system, New equipment, new vehicles, New gamemodes that we have never seen before in any franchise. Could go on.
> > But nah instead 343 just do what other franchises are doing and throw in Sprint and they say “combat has evolved”. Then you’ll have the Halo 4 and 5 kids saying “Halo needed to evolve and you just want a Halo 3 clone.” Halo 2 wasn’t a Halo 1 clone and Halo 3 wasn’t a Halo 2 clone. You just innovate outside of the gameplay.
> > Go check out some of Favyn’s videos on YouTube.
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> Favyn makes great videos on why need a new Halo without sprint.
I’d be great if we got a real Halo.
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> > While our results highlight the benefit of arm swing during distance running, human arm swing during sprinting might serve a different function, where acceleration and maximizing power output, and not minimizing metabolic energy cost, are of primary importance.
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> A: “might” serve a different function. They are speculating here.
> B: We already know from the other artcile that you quoted, that three different scientists agree that this is not the case and arm swinging has no effect on power output:
> “Contrary to popular belief, superior arm action does not produce superior sprint performance.”
> C: “Once the runner is up to top speed, the arms mostly serve to counter-balance the legs and have minimal effect on setting the tone for stride rate or length.”
> Two of the three begin with “once the runner is up to top speed”, so there might be an effect on acceleration but not on speed. Their main effect is to maintain balance, which we already know from the aforementioned paper can be achieved using various other methods that don’t involve arm swinging
What exactly does running have to do with sprinting? Can we keep the discussion to sprint?
All of those articles still state that the balance the arm provides are crucial when sprinting, more so than when simply running. You equated sprint balance to run balance, which isnt necessarily the case.
Your article clearly states that holding the arms in a fixed position is what increases the net metabolic output required. Therefore, of all the methods mentioned in that paper, the best one for a Spartan to use around the battlefield is still just traditional sprinting, because the issue is still holding the gun. That and of course the increased shoulder and pelvic rotation, which might throw off the aim. This is, of course, ignoring that these studies are comparing someone running at around 3 m/s, probably less than half of an average persons sprint speed.
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> > > > > > Some guy on Twitter said that Bravo said at rtx that Halo 6 will have Halo 5’s core gameplay. Can someone confirm that he said this because if it’s true then Halo might just die.
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> > > > > I don’t have link, but I can confirm that this was said. Of course it’s going to be tweaked (like Spartan charge for instance), but it’s mostly going to be the same. Think of it like the change from 2 to 3. All I can say is please don’t just write it off. Get a good day in there before just writing it off because it has sprint in it.
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> > > > Halo 6 has been written off for me. Ever since the abysmal failure they tried to pass off as BTB released, which was when I quit the MP altogether. Shortly after that, I made up my mind that 6 would be the first Halo I didn’t bother to pre-order and it would be a mere rental… unless some major changes happened, that were much more than just the retention of sprint. A rental will still allow me to give it its ‘good day’ but I hold out little confidence it’ll get more than the amount of time it takes me to finish the campaign… if… I can stomach it.
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> > > They have stated that halo 6 will have actual BTB maps.
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> > Thank god for actual BTB maps
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> Implying 343 Dev BTB maps will be any better than forger maps
On top of that, implying I can believe anything they state… sorry… learned my lesson there.
Here’s the REAL problem with sprint: there’s no way to get rid of it. With two main entries of the game having sprint as a baseline trait, how is it suddenly going to be removed?
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> Here’s the REAL problem with sprint: there’s no way to get rid of it. With two main entries of the game having sprint as a baseline trait, how is it suddenly going to be removed?
How did bms no sprint get removed?
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> > Here’s the REAL problem with sprint: there’s no way to get rid of it. With two main entries of the game having sprint as a baseline trait, how is it suddenly going to be removed?
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> How did bms no sprint get removed?
Yep, just because it’s there, or even because it’s been there for more than one game doesn’t mean “there’s no way to get rid of it.”
#Healthpacks
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> > > Here’s the REAL problem with sprint: there’s no way to get rid of it. With two main entries of the game having sprint as a baseline trait, how is it suddenly going to be removed?
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> > How did bms no sprint get removed?
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> Yep, just because it’s there, or even because it’s been there for more than one game doesn’t mean “there’s no way to get rid of it.”
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Well in that case, lets -Yoinking!- get rid of it ASAP then.
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> I remember back in Halo 3 days, when there was a big amount of people requesting for sprint because Halo 3 was TOO slow. Then in Reach Bungie implemented Sprint as an Armor Ability and a huge amount of people back then wanted everyone to have sprint alongside a second Armor Ability.
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> Two years later 343 added Sprint for everyone, alongside an Armor Ability, in Halo 4 but of course everyone believed that it is unbalanced, unneeded and out of place in a Halo game…
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> WHAT IS WRONG WITH US HALO COMMUNITY!!! XD
I’m curious, where’s your evidence of a large amount of people requesting for sprint? From my recollection, I don’t remember anyone asking for sprint back in Halo 3. A fraction of players might have, but nobody I talked to did. Archive the Halo 3 forums on Bungie. That’s a good starting ground. Find me a single post about wanting sprint added into Halo.
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> > I remember back in Halo 3 days, when there was a big amount of people requesting for sprint because Halo 3 was TOO slow. Then in Reach Bungie implemented Sprint as an Armor Ability and a huge amount of people back then wanted everyone to have sprint alongside a second Armor Ability.
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> > Two years later 343 added Sprint for everyone, alongside an Armor Ability, in Halo 4 but of course everyone believed that it is unbalanced, unneeded and out of place in a Halo game…
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> > WHAT IS WRONG WITH US HALO COMMUNITY!!! XD
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> I’m curious, where’s your evidence of a large amount of people requesting for sprint? From my recollection, I don’t remember anyone asking for sprint back in Halo 3. A fraction of players might have, but nobody I talked to did. Archive the Halo 3 forums on Bungie. That’s a good starting ground. Find me a single post about wanting sprint added into Halo.
http://halo.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=36477803&postRepeater1-p=1#36478275people have but the devs were just smart at the time.