I’ve seen that video before as well. I don’t know what the deal is, but my results have been consistent over multiple measurements, both on OG Xbox, 360 as well as XBone.
Lastly, we already know for a fact that Halos 1, 2 and 3 had the same movement speed from the game files.
Halo CE: 2.25 WU/s.
Halo 3: 2.25WU/s.
Reach: 2.2WU/s.
This perfectly agrees with my data, as 7/2.25*2.2=6.84.
I can only assume that the Halo 3 Spartan arrives slightly later due to a lower acceleration, or the video is just out of sync.
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> > Mmm yeah im not sure cause this shows halo 1 and 2 with similar speeds then halo 3 then halo reach.
> > H1 vs H2 vs H3 vs Halo Reach 100 unit run speed comparison - YouTube
>
> I’ve seen that video before as well. I don’t know what the deal is, but my results have been consistent over multiple measurements, both on OG Xbox, 360 as well as XBone.
> Lastly, we already know for a fact that Halos 1, 2 and 3 had the same movement speed from the game files.
> Halo CE: 2.25 WU/s.
> Halo 3: 2.25WU/s.
> Reach: 2.2WU/s.
> This perfectly agrees with my data, as 7/2.25*2.2=6.84.
> I can only assume that the Halo 3 Spartan arrives slightly later due to a lower acceleration, or the video is just out of sync.
Another thing to note is that the course run on Halo 3 isn’t entirely flat but has small small bumps that can decrease the overall speed just slightly…
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> > > > Halo 5 sold 3 million copies and has an average of 20k players online. Yea Lmao I don’t think Sprint, Spartan abilities, or anything like that will be in Halo 6. If they want people to buy their new game they will have to go with a classic Halo or else a lot of people who bought Halo 5 won’t care and the old fans definitely won’t care. A no sprint halo Is the only option I’m sorry but how can people think sprint will be in Halo 6?
> > > > I really do think 343 can make a good Halo game.
> > >
> > > To anwser “how can people think sprint will be in halo 6?”- it’s 343 dude. I’d be surprised if they actually removed it. It’d be the best thing they’ve done since taking over.
> >
> > They took loudouts, ordnance from halo 4 and tried appealing to both old and new fans with halo 5. it failed so the only option would be a no sprint classic halo.
> > Halo 4 – tried appealing to Halo and cod fans because cod was big at the time
> > Halo 5 – tried appealing to new and old fans
> > Neither worked
> > Halo 6 -appeal to either old or new fans. much more old fans than new and more people prefer a no-Sprint halo so classic is the only option if they want halo too succeed
> > A no sprint halo would be better. New fans would adapt and accept classic halo mechanics and if they don’t who cares more old than new
>
> You’re correct they did remove stuff. However people disliked armor abilities in reach, so they figured implementing them differently in h4 would work, again it didn’t work so they changed them to “Spartan abilities” in h5. Same applies to sprint. They’ve been changing how sprint works in each game but have yet to scrap it. That’s what I’m getting at, they’ll try over and over until it works or until there is no one left wanting to play their game.
>
> Fyi: CoD is still big now as they have three games that are in the top 10 most played(one of em is #1), they never really lost ground even if people dislike the newer direction going underway.
They’ve tried Sprint 3 times. Reach had maps that were built around no sprint and it didn’t feel right. Halo 4 the maps were build around Sprint. Halo 5 they tried balancing Sprint. There isn’t much they can do, Sprint has failed 3 times it’s Time to take it out.
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> > > > > Halo 5 sold 3 million copies and has an average of 20k players online. Yea Lmao I don’t think Sprint, Spartan abilities, or anything like that will be in Halo 6. If they want people to buy their new game they will have to go with a classic Halo or else a lot of people who bought Halo 5 won’t care and the old fans definitely won’t care. A no sprint halo Is the only option I’m sorry but how can people think sprint will be in Halo 6?
> > > > > I really do think 343 can make a good Halo game.
> > > >
> > > > To anwser “how can people think sprint will be in halo 6?”- it’s 343 dude. I’d be surprised if they actually removed it. It’d be the best thing they’ve done since taking over.
> > >
> > > They took loudouts, ordnance from halo 4 and tried appealing to both old and new fans with halo 5. it failed so the only option would be a no sprint classic halo.
> > > Halo 4 – tried appealing to Halo and cod fans because cod was big at the time
> > > Halo 5 – tried appealing to new and old fans
> > > Neither worked
> > > Halo 6 -appeal to either old or new fans. much more old fans than new and more people prefer a no-Sprint halo so classic is the only option if they want halo too succeed
> > > A no sprint halo would be better. New fans would adapt and accept classic halo mechanics and if they don’t who cares more old than new
> >
> > You’re correct they did remove stuff. However people disliked armor abilities in reach, so they figured implementing them differently in h4 would work, again it didn’t work so they changed them to “Spartan abilities” in h5. Same applies to sprint. They’ve been changing how sprint works in each game but have yet to scrap it. That’s what I’m getting at, they’ll try over and over until it works or until there is no one left wanting to play their game.
> >
> > Fyi: CoD is still big now as they have three games that are in the top 10 most played(one of em is #1), they never really lost ground even if people dislike the newer direction going underway.
>
> They’ve tried Sprint 3 times. Reach had maps that were built around no sprint and it didn’t feel right. Halo 4 the maps were build around Sprint. Halo 5 they tried balancing Sprint. There isn’t much they can do, Sprint has failed 3 times it’s Time to take it out.
I know and I agree, I’m just saying I don’t see 343 doing it cuz they’re to stubborn to abandon it.
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> > Sprint hurts strafing, map design, creates more uneven engagements, more running away and chasing, etc. while only give players the illusion of moving faster
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> I would disagree with this, seeings that you cant sprint and shoot when you engage strafing is not affected, map design is changed, uneven engagements? im not sure what you mean.
>
> Halo 5 implements many things to disadvantage players in regards to “running away” shields not recharging until they have stopped sprinting, flinching and making the player stop sprinting when they are getting shot. Not being able to sprint also had draw backs like you could shoot them from a distance but they may move back into cover and you would be to far away to get them.
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> Both systems arent perfect and are merely limitations.
Maybe he/she meant that if the weapons are designed around sprinting, then they aren’t designed around strafing. I don’t know if it’s true. Just my guess on what he/she meant. Oh, and I do not know what “uneven engagements” mean.
I hope you understand that the disadvantages of “running away”(shields not recharging until they have stopped sprinting, flinching and making the player stop sprinting when they are getting shot) make no difference once the target manages to get to cover. If the target gets behind cover, its free to run away, with no-one being able to chase it.
I also disagree with the draw-back of not having sprint. Isn’t this something that could be fixed with smaller maps, a better starting weapon or faster movement speed(things that CE had, excluding the faster movement speed)? And isn’t this unfair to the target? Or why not just walk the distance?
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> > Sprint hurts strafing, map design, creates more uneven engagements, more running away and chasing, etc. while only give players the illusion of moving faster
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> I would disagree with this, seeings that you cant sprint and shoot when you engage strafing is not affected, map design is changed, uneven engagements? im not sure what you mean.
>
> Halo 5 implements many things to disadvantage players in regards to “running away” shields not recharging until they have stopped sprinting, flinching and making the player stop sprinting when they are getting shot. Not being able to sprint also had draw backs like you could shoot them from a distance but they may move back into cover and you would be to far away to get them.
>
> Both systems arent perfect and are merely limitations.
In scale the BMS is slower, so your actual combat speed is lower, so strafing is most definitely affected. Seeing as you can’t move as fast or maneuver as well without having to sprint, so you can’t fight back or move in any direction except forward.
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> > > Mmm yeah im not sure cause this shows halo 1 and 2 with similar speeds then halo 3 then halo reach.
> > > H1 vs H2 vs H3 vs Halo Reach 100 unit run speed comparison - YouTube
> >
> > I’ve seen that video before as well. I don’t know what the deal is, but my results have been consistent over multiple measurements, both on OG Xbox, 360 as well as XBone.
> > Lastly, we already know for a fact that Halos 1, 2 and 3 had the same movement speed from the game files.
> > Halo CE: 2.25 WU/s.
> > Halo 3: 2.25WU/s.
> > Reach: 2.2WU/s.
> > This perfectly agrees with my data, as 7/2.25*2.2=6.84.
> > I can only assume that the Halo 3 Spartan arrives slightly later due to a lower acceleration, or the video is just out of sync.
>
> Another thing to note is that the course run on Halo 3 isn’t entirely flat but has small small bumps that can decrease the overall speed just slightly…
I was about to note that. Compared to the other three, the Halo 3 run is very bumpy. Between 20-40 seconds you can see some big bumps and some strafe action going on. Even then, Halo 3 only arrives slightly later, like a fraction of a second. Where as Halo Reach was clearly slower, though still not slow. I think just confirms Celestis’ data that Halo 3’s travel speed was just as fast as previous Halos.
yeah, uh, removing sprint will only make the sprint haters happy for a minute and shortly after they redirect the hate towards something else that dosen’t fit in the Halo 2/3 mold.
the other side is that a new Halo without sprint will not draw or maintain a healthy population.
people talk about other successful games that are sprintless but the thing is that those games are abnormalities and are very different mechanically from how Halo plays.
Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
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> Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
>
> What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
What if there are people who dislike sprint but only play btb? It’s not much of a comprimise really as it’s going to bother people from both sides. Take anti-sprint with btb, then take pro-sprint with no sprint in slayer or objectives. You simply can’t design half a game for one group and the other half a another group, that’s to much work for 343 (and most devs would agree) and if you ask me as a fan that’s to much of a comprimise as it compromises the game itself. The only comprimise is 343 to either stick with sprint or completely remove it, a 50/50 game will not work, people will not pay full price for only a select playlist out of an entire game and then expect that value to be returned, especially with a 343 game with 343s rep.
its not because people can’t comprimise, it’s that it’s not a good comprimise for both sides. I thought about this both ways, not just one sided. When you split playlists like that you have to design maps to fit those settings, the weapon balance is also effected in the process and people don’t need to memorize multiple settings.
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> > Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
> >
> > What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
>
> What if there are people who dislike sprint but only play btb? It’s not much of a comprimise really as it’s going to bother people from both sides. Take anti-sprint with btb, then take pro-sprint with no sprint in slayer or objectives. You simply can’t design half a game for one group and the other half a another group, that’s to much work for 343 (and most devs would agree) and if you ask me as a fan that’s to much of a comprimise as it compromises the game itself. The only comprimise is 343 to either stick with sprint or completely remove it, a 50/50 game will not work, people will not pay full price for only a select playlist out of an entire game and then expect that value to be returned, especially with a 343 game with 343s rep.
>
> its not because people can’t comprimise, it’s that it’s not a good comprimise for both sides. I thought about this both ways, not just one sided. When you split playlists like that you have to design maps to fit those settings, the weapon balance is also effected in the process and people don’t need to memorize multiple settings.
I’m not saying half be classic and half be modern. All the Spartan abilities would stay, but there’d be no sprint in most arena playlists. You wouldn’t have to design some maps with sprint and some without or change the weapon balance or anything. The one sprint arena playlist would probably work with the same maps. If it doesn’t, then we can forge maps. Nothing needs to be tweaked in any way. The guys who play BTB honestly shouldn’t care that there’s sprint. It is needed in BTB, but not in arena. For the guys who need sprint in arena, they would have their sprint arena playlist. Trust me, this can work.
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> yeah, uh, removing sprint will only make the sprint haters happy for a minute and shortly after they redirect the hate towards something else that dosen’t fit in the Halo 2/3 mold.
> **the other side is that a new Halo without sprint will not draw or maintain a healthy population.**people talk about other successful games that are sprintless but the thing is that those games are abnormalities and are very different mechanically from how Halo plays.
(Bold) You just don’t and can’t know that.
And your last sentence doesn’t make any sense (no offence). “Old” Halo games constitute an irrefutable and self-explanatory proof that Halo mechanics combined with no sprint can be, no just successful, but highly successful. Whether this would still be true these days could possibly be up to debate if you want, but the past record clearly does not lean towards your claim. Factually, it would be quite the opposite.
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> yeah, uh, removing sprint will only make the sprint haters happy for a minute and shortly after they redirect the hate towards something else that dosen’t fit in the Halo 2/3 mold.
So an argument to not remove sprint is that “sprint haters” will find something else either way?
Way to pool together people based on an opinion regarding one mechanic.
Way to go explaining to us that we apparently only can “hate” one thing at a time.
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> the other side is that a new Halo without sprint will not draw or maintain a healthy population.
> people talk about other successful games that are sprintless but the thing is that those games are abnormalities and are very different mechanically from how Halo plays.
I so love comments like this because it implies that no matter what changes are made to halo, no matter the additions, mechanic tweaks and so forth. As long as it does not have sprint, it’ll crash and burn, 100% for sure.
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> Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
>
> What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
Or why not just increase the FOV or the BMS? Want the illusion of speed that sprint gives off? An increase in FOV would do just that. Want to actually get around faster? Increase the BMS while retaining the average original map size. Also, we can call vehicles in Warzone and there are a ton of vehicles usually in BTB.
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> > Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
> >
> > What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
>
> Or why not just increase the FOV or the BMS? Want the illusion of speed that sprint gives off? An increase in FOV would do just that. Want to actually get around faster? Increase the BMS while retaining the average original map size. Also, we can call vehicles in Warzone and there are a ton of vehicles usually in BTB.
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> Sprint is unnecessary, just increase the BMS.
Looks like we have found one of the many who can’t compromise. Unless you actually discuss what would work and possible solutions (besides removing it), then I will not continue the conversation.
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> > > Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
> > >
> > > What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
> >
> > Or why not just increase the FOV or the BMS? Want the illusion of speed that sprint gives off? An increase in FOV would do just that. Want to actually get around faster? Increase the BMS while retaining the average original map size. Also, we can call vehicles in Warzone and there are a ton of vehicles usually in BTB.
> >
> > Sprint is unnecessary, just increase the BMS.
>
> Looks like we have found one of the many who can’t compromise. Unless you actually discuss what would work and possible solutions (besides removing it), then I will not continue the conversation.
But a compromise like that makes gameplay inconsostent over the playlists.
Why would we need sprint for specific playlists when we could increase BMS and/or FoV? While on top of that introduce more means of faster map traversal for players on foot like Portals, Teleporters, Man cannons, conveyor belts and then some?
Why do you want sprint? We can’t discuss a compromise if we do not have atleast two points to go from.
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> > > > Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
> > > >
> > > > What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
> > >
> > > Or why not just increase the FOV or the BMS? Want the illusion of speed that sprint gives off? An increase in FOV would do just that. Want to actually get around faster? Increase the BMS while retaining the average original map size. Also, we can call vehicles in Warzone and there are a ton of vehicles usually in BTB.
> > >
> > > Sprint is unnecessary, just increase the BMS.
> >
> > Looks like we have found one of the many who can’t compromise. Unless you actually discuss what would work and possible solutions (besides removing it), then I will not continue the conversation.
>
> But a compromise like that makes gameplay inconsostent over the playlists.
>
> Why would we need sprint for specific playlists when we could increase BMS and/or FoV? While on top of that introduce more means of faster map traversal for players on foot like Portals, Teleporters, Man cannons, conveyor belts and then some?
>
> Why do you want sprint? We can’t discuss a compromise if we do not have atleast two points to go from.
I would be fine without sprint as well if stuff like portals,teleporters were added but i dont like the bms or fov increase,removing sprint automatically removes spartan charge and side,)cause you cant do either of those moves without sprinting).Unfortunately some of halo 5’s maps/structures are stretched out for sprint.However we can still keep clamber to get to certain positions
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> > > > > Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
> > > > >
> > > > > What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
> > > >
> > > > Or why not just increase the FOV or the BMS? Want the illusion of speed that sprint gives off? An increase in FOV would do just that. Want to actually get around faster? Increase the BMS while retaining the average original map size. Also, we can call vehicles in Warzone and there are a ton of vehicles usually in BTB.
> > > >
> > > > Sprint is unnecessary, just increase the BMS.
> > >
> > > Looks like we have found one of the many who can’t compromise. Unless you actually discuss what would work and possible solutions (besides removing it), then I will not continue the conversation.
> >
> > But a compromise like that makes gameplay inconsostent over the playlists.
> >
> > Why would we need sprint for specific playlists when we could increase BMS and/or FoV? While on top of that introduce more means of faster map traversal for players on foot like Portals, Teleporters, Man cannons, conveyor belts and then some?
> >
> > Why do you want sprint? We can’t discuss a compromise if we do not have atleast two points to go from.
>
> I would be fine without sprint as well if stuff like portals,teleporters were added but i dont like the bms or fov increase,removing sprint automatically removes spartan charge and side,)cause you cant do either of those moves without sprinting).Unfortunately some of halo 5’s maps/structures are stretched out for sprint.However we can still keep clamber to get to certain positions
Why? A slight increased BMS would make it slightly faster, coupled with a good acceleration and it gets responsive. Add to that a larger FoV and you not only get a better awareness of what’s infront of you but you also seem to go faster. FoV has been decreased a lot since the early 2000.
Removing sprint from Halo 5 would remove slide and Spartan Charge, that however would not hold true to a Halo 6 without sprint as both those could easily be implemented without sprint.
Clamber does not allow you to reach certain positions that weren’t supposed to be reached. We can do without clamber as well.
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> > > > > > Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
> > > > >
> > > > > Or why not just increase the FOV or the BMS? Want the illusion of speed that sprint gives off? An increase in FOV would do just that. Want to actually get around faster? Increase the BMS while retaining the average original map size. Also, we can call vehicles in Warzone and there are a ton of vehicles usually in BTB.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sprint is unnecessary, just increase the BMS.
> > > >
> > > > Looks like we have found one of the many who can’t compromise. Unless you actually discuss what would work and possible solutions (besides removing it), then I will not continue the conversation.
> > >
> > > But a compromise like that makes gameplay inconsostent over the playlists.
> > >
> > > Why would we need sprint for specific playlists when we could increase BMS and/or FoV? While on top of that introduce more means of faster map traversal for players on foot like Portals, Teleporters, Man cannons, conveyor belts and then some?
> > >
> > > Why do you want sprint? We can’t discuss a compromise if we do not have atleast two points to go from.
> >
> > I would be fine without sprint as well if stuff like portals,teleporters were added but i dont like the bms or fov increase,removing sprint automatically removes spartan charge and side,)cause you cant do either of those moves without sprinting).Unfortunately some of halo 5’s maps/structures are stretched out for sprint.However we can still keep clamber to get to certain positions
>
> Why? A slight increased BMS would make it slightly faster, coupled with a good acceleration and it gets responsive. Add to that a larger FoV and you not only get a better awareness of what’s infront of you but you also seem to go faster. FoV has been decreased a lot since the early 2000.
>
> Removing sprint from Halo 5 would remove slide and Spartan Charge, that however would not hold true to a Halo 6 without sprint as both those could easily be implemented without sprint.
>
> Clamber does not allow you to reach certain positions that weren’t supposed to be reached. We can do without clamber as well.
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> > > > > > > Hey, everyone! Arc Trooper is back with another proposal that will most likely get shot down because many can’t compromise lol.
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> > > > > > > What if (drumroll please), sprint was removed from certain arena playlists, but it stayed in BTB, Warzone, and one sprint arena playlist? Yes, things like thrust and stabilizers will still be active, but this is a thread for removing sprint, not Spartan abilities. Also, once you hold the energy sword or gravity hammer, sprint would turn on for you. For games like grifball, action sack, and infection, sprint doesn’t really matter (and I actually like it better when sprint is in those playlists), but for things like team arena, team slayer, FFA, swat, etc. there would be no sprint. So what do you think?
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> > > > > > Or why not just increase the FOV or the BMS? Want the illusion of speed that sprint gives off? An increase in FOV would do just that. Want to actually get around faster? Increase the BMS while retaining the average original map size. Also, we can call vehicles in Warzone and there are a ton of vehicles usually in BTB.
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> > > > > > Sprint is unnecessary, just increase the BMS.
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> > > > > Looks like we have found one of the many who can’t compromise. Unless you actually discuss what would work and possible solutions (besides removing it), then I will not continue the conversation.
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> > > > But a compromise like that makes gameplay inconsostent over the playlists.
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> > > > Why would we need sprint for specific playlists when we could increase BMS and/or FoV? While on top of that introduce more means of faster map traversal for players on foot like Portals, Teleporters, Man cannons, conveyor belts and then some?
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> > > > Why do you want sprint? We can’t discuss a compromise if we do not have atleast two points to go from.
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> > > I would be fine without sprint as well if stuff like portals,teleporters were added but i dont like the bms or fov increase,removing sprint automatically removes spartan charge and side,)cause you cant do either of those moves without sprinting).Unfortunately some of halo 5’s maps/structures are stretched out for sprint.However we can still keep clamber to get to certain positions
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> > Why? A slight increased BMS would make it slightly faster, coupled with a good acceleration and it gets responsive. Add to that a larger FoV and you not only get a better awareness of what’s infront of you but you also seem to go faster. FoV has been decreased a lot since the early 2000.
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> > Removing sprint from Halo 5 would remove slide and Spartan Charge, that however would not hold true to a Halo 6 without sprint as both those could easily be implemented without sprint.
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> > Clamber does not allow you to reach certain positions that weren’t supposed to be reached. We can do without clamber as well.
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> the only way classic halo can work in halo 5 map design/those made by 343 and some maps by community,needs halo 5 evolved settings to work based on just halo 5 map design,ever heard of evolved posted on team beyond: http://teambeyond.net/forum/topic/14157-halo-5-evolved-settingsdetails-v2-update/
