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> i think the likes on the first and second post´s in this thread say enough…
Yeah… must be a slow week on Waypoint if we’re still beating this dead horse.
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> > > > > I mean, what FPS can you think of that is current that doesn’t have sprint?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Doom, Overwatch, Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2…
> > >
> > >
> > > Soldier 76 can sprint, just sayin’.
> >
> >
> > The point of Cabooses post was that sprint is what people expect, including new players. Soldier is played less than 7% of the time, so clearly almost nobody cares about not being able to sprint when playing that game.
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> Every game of overwatch I’ve ever played had at least one soldier 76 six in it. That didn’t sound like 7% to me.
It is. People change heroes in Overwatch to fit the situation. Just because you see someone playing as Soldier doesn’t mean they’re playing as him the whole game. You’ve also only played 56 games, which isn’t a lot and is where you’re more likely to see Soldiers since he’s the beginner hero.
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> > > > > > > > I’m done. I just can’t deal with the unrelenting hate for every little change that happens in every single new Halo game. You win. Have your hate. Continue to tell everyone else how wrong and stupid and terrible they are. I don’t know why I even bother. I’m out.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If we didn’t speak our minds back in 2012/2013, Halo 5 would be even more CoDified than Halo 4. If people weren’t talking now, Halo 6 would have the same problems. Are you seeing the pattern here? If people didn’t say anything, they wouldn’t think anything is wrong and nothing would improve. And nobody cares that you’re leaving by the way. Just don’t let the door hit you on the way out.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Words have little value, Halo 4’s abandonment was louder than all the words on all the forums.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So is H5G’s abandonment and sales. People are here to let 343 know why these games were abandoned, so they don’t make the wrong changes (again) in order to get the players back.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Although H5G is still making money…thanks to the Req Packs?!?
> > > > It seems like the Halo community is just the core fans now.
> > > > A smaller but fanatic group who will be here to the end.
> > > > I honestly think there is no fix, sprint or non-sprint that brings back the glory days.
> > > > Removing sprint just feels like condemning the future to BR starts, Midship, Ascension and Lockout till the end of eternity.
> > >
> > >
> > > Because sprint is the only thing that separate those aspects from nu-Halo?
> > > And we can’t explore other alternative changes other than popular features used today.
> >
> >
> > I’d always wondered what happens if someone ground pounded a spartan using armor lock? (just for laughs)
> > O.K. I’ll help and try to think up other ideas:
> > What about double jumps?
> > Grapple Hooks?
> > Wall Running?
> > Class Based Spartan loadouts?
> > Bring equipment back?
> > Duel Welding?
> > YOINK it’s harder than I thought it would be to think up original ideas.
>
>
> Multigravitational maps
> Zero G areas combined with Multigravitational maps
> While on the ground, double tap movement thumbstick in a direction to perform a short evade.
> While in the Air, double tap movement thumbstick in a direction to perform a longer thrust than evade.
> While in Zero G it functions like a space “simulator”, no up or down, your axises can rotate freely.
>
> All human weapons have alternative fire modes which are selectable
> All covenant weapons have secondary fire modes which function like the Plasma Caster and the Plasma Pistol, hold the trigger to charge, Carbine shotgun burst anyone?
> All Promethean weapons are modular, meaning you get a basic promethean weapon, say a bolt shot that shoot only straight and then you need to find Promethean Modules with different attributes to “upgrade” your weapon, and it can only hold a set amount of modules. For instance, pick up a Rapid module and a Seeker module and you’d have a Suppressor rifle. A Scatter module and a bounce module and you have a Scatter Shot. A Seeker Module and a Scatter module would have a shotgun firing seeking projectiles. A Rapid module and bounce module would make a Suppressor that fire non-seeking but bouncing projectiles.
>
> Health implemented again, but regenerating to an extent. You need to have Biofoam stored to be able to regenerate health, and biofoam depletes at an increased rate the more health damage you’ve taken. So, if you for instance regenerate 10 points of health it could require 5 points of biofoam, but regenerate 20 points and it would need 15 points. Biofoam can be picked up from the map, and shared with team mates.
>
> More environment hazards and control points. Lockable and openable doors, windows, gates, floors, roofs etc. Extendable bridges and so forth. Controllable environmental hazards, open a door to let lava flow into a a room etc.
>
> Teleporters changed to function like Portals from Portal in a manner of ways. You see what’s on the other side.
> Travelators, escalators, conveyor belts, moving platforms etc.
>
> Then not have Sprint and Clamber.
>
> Put Spartan Charge on a charge up like Rail guns and Splasers
>
> I think that’s it
With all this implemented, I would be ok with no sprint, but other than that, I want sprint still.
It’s great already. I don’t know why this thread got blown up.
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> Yeah… must be a slow week on Waypoint if we’re still beating this dead horse.
Just all anxiously awaiting for Warzone Firefight. I’m sure when it comes out everyone will be up in arms about something else.
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> > I can’t actually agree with this, despite the fact I’ve been critical of some recent changes to game, this has added a new level to the game and multiplayer that makes it more fast paced.
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>
> That is one of the criticisms though. Sprinting makes your movement more fast paced, which many see as a bad thing. Sprinting doesn’t actually really affect the pace of the overall game though.
I have to disagree there. In my opinion, it very much effects the overall game pace, although it makes it slower, not faster. Ever since Reach, it takes me twice as long to find enemies after an engament / after respawn than before (15-20sec vs 5-10sec), due to the streched-out maps, which we already know to be a ripple-effect from the inclusion of sprint.
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> > > > > Hello everyone, this is my first post ever, been playing halo since 2001. I just had to log in and give my opinion on the subject cause Halo is very close to my heart.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just a quick background: 2001 bought halo 1 and Xbox after playing the demo in shops :D… halo 2 around 2004 → local multiplayer FFA and campaign for hour to no end… 2007 bought halo 3 and Xbox 360 and so on, buying every game including halo 5. You can check my stats and see I’m not n00b → no need to get gud.
> > > > >
> > > > > What totally broke the halo feeling for me was not just the sprinting, it was also all the jumps that need clambering to get over (I can’t out smart someone by jumping sideways and keep shooting), thrusters that enabled players to challenge me and get away with it (player don’t have to think smart or plan ahead).
> > > > >
> > > > > And the grand finale, the sprinting. People say it helps you back in the action faster → one aspect that was unique to halo was that slower pace that allowed you to make plans ahead and not just run mindlessly back to battle. Maps have been made with clamber and sprint in mind → it makes me feel like a tiny Spartan, all the corridors and halls are wide and extreme long (halo reach map remakes for example halo 3s the Pit had this problem) and my enemies are on top on lamp posts around the map. Keeping a position which was very important in previous halos is now almost impossible because of the fast pace that the players can get back in action and even clamber up next to you…
> > > > >
> > > > > Don’t even mention the 18m radar… And this comes from a player who was 48 in halo 3 MLG → no radar
> > > > >
> > > > > sorry for the long post, just had to say my opinion after seeing my beloved franchise change so much and the community fighting…
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > First of all HCE through 3 had the same movement system that ALL other fps games of the time had. The maps were always big in Halo especially CE and 2, H3 had slightly smaller arena maps so did Reach. Their is no logical reason why a super soldier can’t clamber or sprint. The maps are not solely big because of sprint, Spartan Charge and Ground Pound are why the maps are so funky and why the radar was shortened. Spartan Charge makes perfect sense considering you reach maximum velocity sprinting and it becomes a powerful melee that for some reason DOES THE SAME AMOUNT OF DAMAGE as a regular melee. Ground Pound on the other hand should instantly kill you because you’re basically rocketing towards the ground. Halo 6 should bring back fall damage because I think skill jumps would have more risk/reward.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a video game not a simulator. I lost brain cells reading this.
> >
> >
> > Technically multiplayer is a simulation and if you lost brain cells reading my post then I suggest you stop smoking pot.
>
>
> Lore should have no effect on gameplay. Spartans can shoot and sprint, prone, and are much faster, yet that is not put into gameplay. Maybe when you put the joint down you’d realize that Halo is not a spartan simulator.
Yeah it is, that’s exactly what halo is. Halo 3: ODST is the exception, but only because it’s an ODST simulator. Halo two was the ultimate in combat simulation, with dual wield, elites, ands decent customization.
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> It’s great already. I don’t know why this thread got blown up.
I guess it’s not so great.
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> Not really. OP’s post wasn’t exactly well put together. Like, I agree with OP but i didn’t like his post. For example, this very well thought out thread about the neagtives of sprint has tons of likes, as do the responses that are against sprint.
LoL the OP of this thread you mean is SR0 like you^^ just saying xD
and yes it´s stats fl… you can report me (:
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> I guess it’s not so great.
it´s gret already 
I think we both will never be the same opinion in this case, but that´s ok 
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> >
> > Not really. OP’s post wasn’t exactly well put together. Like, I agree with OP but i didn’t like his post. For example, this very well thought out thread about the neagtives of sprint has tons of likes, as do the responses that are against sprint.
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> LoL the OP of this thread you mean is SR0^^ just saying xD
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> and yes it´s stats fl… you can report me (:
sigh
We already have a TON of reports in this thread, please don’t add to the growing problem.
It’s going to be hard to justify keeping this thread unlocked if this continues.
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> > > > > > I mean, what FPS can you think of that is current that doesn’t have sprint?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Doom, Overwatch, Counterstrike, Team Fortress 2…
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Soldier 76 can sprint, just sayin’.
> > >
> > >
> > > The point of Cabooses post was that sprint is what people expect, including new players. Soldier is played less than 7% of the time, so clearly almost nobody cares about not being able to sprint when playing that game.
> >
> >
> > Every game of overwatch I’ve ever played had at least one soldier 76 six in it. That didn’t sound like 7% to me.
>
>
> It is. People change heroes in Overwatch to fit the situation. Just because you see someone playing as Soldier doesn’t mean they’re playing as him the whole game. You’ve also only played 56 games, which isn’t a lot and is where you’re more likely to see Soldiers since he’s the beginner hero.
now it´s a overwatch thread? :,D
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> > > It’s great already. I don’t know why this thread got blown up.
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> >
> > I guess it’s not so great.
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> it´s gret already
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> I think we both will never be the same opinion in this case, but that´s ok
Hence why this thread is still going strong. People have different opinions.
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> > > > i think the likes on the first and second post´s in this thread say enough…
> > >
> > >
> > > Not really. OP’s post wasn’t exactly well put together. Like, I agree with OP but i didn’t like his post. For example, this very well thought out thread about the neagtives of sprint has tons of likes, as do the responses that are against sprint.
> >
> >
> > LoL the OP of this thread you mean is SR0^^ just saying xD
> >
> > and yes it´s stats fl… you can report me (:
>
>
> sigh
>
> We already have a TON of reports in this thread, please don’t add to the growing problem.
>
> It’s going to be hard to justify keeping this thread unlocked if this continues.
Why’d you have to go and say that? There are a bunch of people that would love to go and get this thread locked.
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> > > > i think the likes on the first and second post´s in this thread say enough…
> > >
> > >
> > > Not really. OP’s post wasn’t exactly well put together. Like, I agree with OP but i didn’t like his post. For example, this very well thought out thread about the neagtives of sprint has tons of likes, as do the responses that are against sprint.
> >
> >
> > LoL the OP of this thread you mean is SR0^^ just saying xD
> >
> > and yes it´s stats fl… you can report me (:
>
>
> sigh
>
> We already have a TON of reports in this thread, please don’t add to the growing problem.
>
> It’s going to be hard to justify keeping this thread unlocked if this continues.
Lock it, for crying out loud!
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> > > > > i think the likes on the first and second post´s in this thread say enough…
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not really. OP’s post wasn’t exactly well put together. Like, I agree with OP but i didn’t like his post. For example, this very well thought out thread about the neagtives of sprint has tons of likes, as do the responses that are against sprint.
> > >
> > >
> > > LoL the OP of this thread you mean is SR0^^ just saying xD
> > >
> > > and yes it´s stats fl… you can report me (:
> >
> >
> > sigh
> >
> > We already have a TON of reports in this thread, please don’t add to the growing problem.
> >
> > It’s going to be hard to justify keeping this thread unlocked if this continues.
>
>
> Why’d you have to go and say that? There are a bunch of people that would love to go and get this thread locked.
like the guy who never play Halo 5 but still hate the sprint movement
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> > > > > > Hello everyone, this is my first post ever, been playing halo since 2001. I just had to log in and give my opinion on the subject cause Halo is very close to my heart.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Just a quick background: 2001 bought halo 1 and Xbox after playing the demo in shops :D… halo 2 around 2004 → local multiplayer FFA and campaign for hour to no end… 2007 bought halo 3 and Xbox 360 and so on, buying every game including halo 5. You can check my stats and see I’m not n00b → no need to get gud.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What totally broke the halo feeling for me was not just the sprinting, it was also all the jumps that need clambering to get over (I can’t out smart someone by jumping sideways and keep shooting), thrusters that enabled players to challenge me and get away with it (player don’t have to think smart or plan ahead).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the grand finale, the sprinting. People say it helps you back in the action faster → one aspect that was unique to halo was that slower pace that allowed you to make plans ahead and not just run mindlessly back to battle. Maps have been made with clamber and sprint in mind → it makes me feel like a tiny Spartan, all the corridors and halls are wide and extreme long (halo reach map remakes for example halo 3s the Pit had this problem) and my enemies are on top on lamp posts around the map. Keeping a position which was very important in previous halos is now almost impossible because of the fast pace that the players can get back in action and even clamber up next to you…
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Don’t even mention the 18m radar… And this comes from a player who was 48 in halo 3 MLG → no radar
> > > > > >
> > > > > > sorry for the long post, just had to say my opinion after seeing my beloved franchise change so much and the community fighting…
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > First of all HCE through 3 had the same movement system that ALL other fps games of the time had. The maps were always big in Halo especially CE and 2, H3 had slightly smaller arena maps so did Reach. Their is no logical reason why a super soldier can’t clamber or sprint. The maps are not solely big because of sprint, Spartan Charge and Ground Pound are why the maps are so funky and why the radar was shortened. Spartan Charge makes perfect sense considering you reach maximum velocity sprinting and it becomes a powerful melee that for some reason DOES THE SAME AMOUNT OF DAMAGE as a regular melee. Ground Pound on the other hand should instantly kill you because you’re basically rocketing towards the ground. Halo 6 should bring back fall damage because I think skill jumps would have more risk/reward.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is a video game not a simulator. I lost brain cells reading this.
> > >
> > >
> > > Technically multiplayer is a simulation and if you lost brain cells reading my post then I suggest you stop smoking pot.
> >
> >
> > Lore should have no effect on gameplay. Spartans can shoot and sprint, prone, and are much faster, yet that is not put into gameplay. Maybe when you put the joint down you’d realize that Halo is not a spartan simulator.
>
>
> Yeah it is, that’s exactly what halo is. Halo 3: ODST is the exception, but only because it’s an ODST simulator. Halo two was the ultimate in combat simulation, with dual wield, elites, ands decent customization.
No, Halo isn’t a spartan simulator, it is far from a simulator. You’re missing so much you don’t even half half the things implemented for it to be a simulator.
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> > > > > > i think the likes on the first and second post´s in this thread say enough…
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Not really. OP’s post wasn’t exactly well put together. Like, I agree with OP but i didn’t like his post. For example, this very well thought out thread about the neagtives of sprint has tons of likes, as do the responses that are against sprint.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > LoL the OP of this thread you mean is SR0^^ just saying xD
> > > >
> > > > and yes it´s stats fl… you can report me (:
> > >
> > >
> > > sigh
> > >
> > > We already have a TON of reports in this thread, please don’t add to the growing problem.
> > >
> > > It’s going to be hard to justify keeping this thread unlocked if this continues.
> >
> >
> > Why’d you have to go and say that? There are a bunch of people that would love to go and get this thread locked.
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> like the guy who never play Halo 5 but still hate the sprint movement
Don’t know who you’re talking about, but it’s not relevant to what I said.
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> > > I guess it’s not so great.
> >
> >
> > it´s gret already
> >
> > I think we both will never be the same opinion in this case, but that´s ok
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> Hence why this thread is still going strong. People have different opinions.
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> > > > > i think the likes on the first and second post´s in this thread say enough…
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not really. OP’s post wasn’t exactly well put together. Like, I agree with OP but i didn’t like his post. For example, this very well thought out thread about the neagtives of sprint has tons of likes, as do the responses that are against sprint.
> > >
> > >
> > > LoL the OP of this thread you mean is SR0^^ just saying xD
> > >
> > > and yes it´s stats fl… you can report me (:
> >
> >
> > sigh
> >
> > We already have a TON of reports in this thread, please don’t add to the growing problem.
> >
> > It’s going to be hard to justify keeping this thread unlocked if this continues.
>
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> Why’d you have to go and say that? There are a bunch of people that would love to go and get this thread locked.
Just tying to be transparent as possible.
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I don’t like sprint myself, but I don’t think they will ever remove sprint to be perfectly honest.
Sprinting and spartan charge are useless against anyone with a headset. You can easily hear the sound of someone’s thrusters coming up behind you. Obviously someone put some thought into this issue so that it would be balanced.