The sprint discussion thread

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
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> > > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
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> > > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
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> > > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
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> > > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
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> > > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
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> > > > > How are equipment pickups worse? They were limited as not everyone could have one, you didn’t spawn with them off the bat, and they had timed spawns just like power weapons. It’s fine and dandy you don’t like equipment, I don’t either, but AA was much worse as they were the opposite of equipment pickups. I really don’t understand how you can see equipment being more unpredictable than AAs were at all.
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> > > > I found them more unpredictable for that very reason, they messed with the game flow.more than armor.abilities, but you didn’t know when someone had one because they were map pickups. They were not balanced as well as AAs, and their spawn timers were much more akin to regular weapons like the BR, plasma rifle, or carbine. There was usually quite a few runningnaround on maps and it wasnt an uncommon occurance to see 2-3 bubble shields deployed next toneachother simultaneously. That did a number on game flow. Almost all the positives of armor lock, without the downside of being stationary. And they last much longer too
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> > > Are you honestly trying to say H3 equipment had more of an affect on the game than Reach’s AAs did?
> > >
> > > That’s like saying the sniper gets used more in slayer than it does in team snipers.
> >
> >
> > More of a negative affect. Difference. Also my opinion
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> It’s not a matter of opinion though. You are factually incorrect.

This is a matter if opinion. It is just a much more popular opinion that AAs had a significant negative impact. Don’t pull this 'sprint is bad. Fact. Aas are bad. Fact" stuff.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
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> > > > > > How are equipment pickups worse? They were limited as not everyone could have one, you didn’t spawn with them off the bat, and they had timed spawns just like power weapons. It’s fine and dandy you don’t like equipment, I don’t either, but AA was much worse as they were the opposite of equipment pickups. I really don’t understand how you can see equipment being more unpredictable than AAs were at all.
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> > > > > I found them more unpredictable for that very reason, they messed with the game flow.more than armor.abilities, but you didn’t know when someone had one because they were map pickups. They were not balanced as well as AAs, and their spawn timers were much more akin to regular weapons like the BR, plasma rifle, or carbine. There was usually quite a few runningnaround on maps and it wasnt an uncommon occurance to see 2-3 bubble shields deployed next toneachother simultaneously. That did a number on game flow. Almost all the positives of armor lock, without the downside of being stationary. And they last much longer too
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> > > > Are you honestly trying to say H3 equipment had more of an affect on the game than Reach’s AAs did?
> > > >
> > > > That’s like saying the sniper gets used more in slayer than it does in team snipers.
> > >
> > >
> > > More of a negative affect. Difference. Also my opinion
> >
> >
> > It’s not a matter of opinion though. You are factually incorrect.
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> This is a matter if opinion. It is just a much more popular opinion that AAs had a significant negative impact.

It is literally not a matter of opinion. 8 people spawning with abilities that they can reuse has more of an affect on the game than one time use abilities that are scattered about the map. That is a fact.

Whether it was a negative, positive, or neutral affect is opinion.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How are equipment pickups worse? They were limited as not everyone could have one, you didn’t spawn with them off the bat, and they had timed spawns just like power weapons. It’s fine and dandy you don’t like equipment, I don’t either, but AA was much worse as they were the opposite of equipment pickups. I really don’t understand how you can see equipment being more unpredictable than AAs were at all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I found them more unpredictable for that very reason, they messed with the game flow.more than armor.abilities, but you didn’t know when someone had one because they were map pickups. They were not balanced as well as AAs, and their spawn timers were much more akin to regular weapons like the BR, plasma rifle, or carbine. There was usually quite a few runningnaround on maps and it wasnt an uncommon occurance to see 2-3 bubble shields deployed next toneachother simultaneously. That did a number on game flow. Almost all the positives of armor lock, without the downside of being stationary. And they last much longer too
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Are you honestly trying to say H3 equipment had more of an affect on the game than Reach’s AAs did?
> > > > >
> > > > > That’s like saying the sniper gets used more in slayer than it does in team snipers.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > More of a negative affect. Difference. Also my opinion
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s not a matter of opinion though. You are factually incorrect.
> >
> >
> > This is a matter if opinion. It is just a much more popular opinion that AAs had a significant negative impact.
>
>
> It is literally not a matter of opinion. 8 people spawning with abilities that they can reuse has more of an affect on the game than one time use abilities that are scattered about the map. That is a fact.
>
> Whether it was a negative, positive, or neutral affect is opinion.

Andsthat’s my opinion that equipment have more of a negative impact on gameplay than AAs. I know that AAs have more.of an overall impact, but I think most of it was either positive or neutral, with some negative. I feel like equipment have more of a negative impact than aas.

Like you said, it is a.fact that aas has more of am overall impact on gameplay. It is opinion how much of it was negative and if equipment had more negative impact

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How are equipment pickups worse? They were limited as not everyone could have one, you didn’t spawn with them off the bat, and they had timed spawns just like power weapons. It’s fine and dandy you don’t like equipment, I don’t either, but AA was much worse as they were the opposite of equipment pickups. I really don’t understand how you can see equipment being more unpredictable than AAs were at all.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I found them more unpredictable for that very reason, they messed with the game flow.more than armor.abilities, but you didn’t know when someone had one because they were map pickups. They were not balanced as well as AAs, and their spawn timers were much more akin to regular weapons like the BR, plasma rifle, or carbine. There was usually quite a few runningnaround on maps and it wasnt an uncommon occurance to see 2-3 bubble shields deployed next toneachother simultaneously. That did a number on game flow. Almost all the positives of armor lock, without the downside of being stationary. And they last much longer too
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you honestly trying to say H3 equipment had more of an affect on the game than Reach’s AAs did?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That’s like saying the sniper gets used more in slayer than it does in team snipers.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > More of a negative affect. Difference. Also my opinion
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > It’s not a matter of opinion though. You are factually incorrect.
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a matter if opinion. It is just a much more popular opinion that AAs had a significant negative impact.
> >
> >
> > It is literally not a matter of opinion. 8 people spawning with abilities that they can reuse has more of an affect on the game than one time use abilities that are scattered about the map. That is a fact.
> >
> > Whether it was a negative, positive, or neutral affect is opinion.
>
>
> Andsthat’s my opinion that equipment have more of a negative impact on gameplay than AAs. I know that AAs have more.of an overall impact, but I think most of it was either positive or neutral, with some negative. I feel like equipment have more of a negative impact than aas.
>
> Like you said, it is a.fact that aas has more of am overall impact on gameplay. It is opinion how much of it was negative and if equipment had more negative impact

Oh ok, I misunderstood what you were saying.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How are equipment pickups worse? They were limited as not everyone could have one, you didn’t spawn with them off the bat, and they had timed spawns just like power weapons. It’s fine and dandy you don’t like equipment, I don’t either, but AA was much worse as they were the opposite of equipment pickups. I really don’t understand how you can see equipment being more unpredictable than AAs were at all.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I found them more unpredictable for that very reason, they messed with the game flow.more than armor.abilities, but you didn’t know when someone had one because they were map pickups. They were not balanced as well as AAs, and their spawn timers were much more akin to regular weapons like the BR, plasma rifle, or carbine. There was usually quite a few runningnaround on maps and it wasnt an uncommon occurance to see 2-3 bubble shields deployed next toneachother simultaneously. That did a number on game flow. Almost all the positives of armor lock, without the downside of being stationary. And they last much longer too
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Are you honestly trying to say H3 equipment had more of an affect on the game than Reach’s AAs did?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That’s like saying the sniper gets used more in slayer than it does in team snipers.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > More of a negative affect. Difference. Also my opinion
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s not a matter of opinion though. You are factually incorrect.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is a matter if opinion. It is just a much more popular opinion that AAs had a significant negative impact.
> > >
> > >
> > > It is literally not a matter of opinion. 8 people spawning with abilities that they can reuse has more of an affect on the game than one time use abilities that are scattered about the map. That is a fact.
> > >
> > > Whether it was a negative, positive, or neutral affect is opinion.
> >
> >
> > Andsthat’s my opinion that equipment have more of a negative impact on gameplay than AAs. I know that AAs have more.of an overall impact, but I think most of it was either positive or neutral, with some negative. I feel like equipment have more of a negative impact than aas.
> >
> > Like you said, it is a.fact that aas has more of am overall impact on gameplay. It is opinion how much of it was negative and if equipment had more negative impact
>
>
> Oh ok, I misunderstood what you were saying.

No prob :slight_smile:

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> > Then at least there is an alternative, excuse the pun change of pace, that people can play as well or instead of the others.
>
>
> This is where 343 needs to do a complete 180 when it comes to philosophy. Don’t try to give people what they expect. Give people what they don’t expect. Cookie cutter shooters ironically don’t cut it.
>
> Look at the games that have come out recently that have become successful MP games. Minecraft, Rocket League, RS Siege, Overwatch. They all delivered an experience that people didn’t even know they wanted before those games showed them. 343’s Halo games don’t show us anything that we don’t see everywhere else. They give us exactly what we expect. Nothing more. Nothing less. When H4 launched the expectation was for FPS games to have loudouts, and perks, and killstreaks and sprint. That’s what we got. When H5 launched the expectation was for FPS games to have thrust, and clamber, and double jump/floating, and ADS, and sprint. That’s what we got. It’s boring.
>
> Give people something they don’t expect. What they don’t expect is a fast, visceral Halo built of a sprintless movement base.

I just want halo 2 and 3 back, I miss it so much it hurts.

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> > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> >
> >
> > Funny how you never mentioned how equipment was bad until I said it was good…
>
>
> Did you say it was good? If you did, I didn’t read it

I mentioned how it was a much better alternative to AAs, because it functions as a one use Pam pickup in a way similar to power weapons.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> > >
> > >
> > > Funny how you never mentioned how equipment was bad until I said it was good…
> >
> >
> > Did you say it was good? If you did, I didn’t read it
>
>
> I mentioned how it was a much better alternative to AAs, because it functions as a one use Pam pickup in a way similar to power weapons.

Was that before or after I mentioned them?

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> didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.

Agreed but in Halo 5 the sprint is necessary due the new mechanics and modes and the size of the maps in Halo 5, IMO

Halo 5 is the firts time i play Halo MP, i always play Gears.

In overwatch the sprint is not necessary because the size of the maps and modes.

im all for keep sprint in halo 6.

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>
>
> Agreed but in Halo 5 the sprint is necessary due the new mechanics and modes and the size of the maps in Halo 5, IMO
>
> Halo 5 is the firts time i play Halo MP, i always play Gears.
>
> In overwatch the sprint is not necessary because the size of the maps and modes.
>
> im all for keep sprint in halo 6.

The reason why the maps are way bigger than they need to be is because they were made knowing that sprint would be included in the game. Halo 1-3 didn’t have sprint, and on all normal sized maps the game flowed just fine. Heck, if you ever played CE you would know that it was far faster paced than any sprint based game.

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> > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> >
> >
> > Agreed but in Halo 5 the sprint is necessary due the new mechanics and modes and the size of the maps in Halo 5, IMO
> >
> > Halo 5 is the firts time i play Halo MP, i always play Gears.
> >
> > In overwatch the sprint is not necessary because the size of the maps and modes.
> >
> > im all for keep sprint in halo 6.
>
>
> The reason why the maps are way bigger than they need to be is because they were made knowing that sprint would be included in the game. Halo 1-3 didn’t have sprint, and on all normal sized maps the game flowed just fine. Heck, if you ever played CE you would know that it was far faster paced than any sprint based game.

as being said, this is the first time im playing Halo mp. ive been playing Gears of war for the last 10 years

i do played CE, on the original xbox, really liked, but the mp in halo never was my thing, till Halo 5.

i have finished all 5 halo games before, reach and odst too.

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> > > > Why is this still a thing? You can sprint in Halo. It would be lame without the sprint.
> > >
> > >
> > > You know what else is lame? Conforming to the FPS industry’s standards in order to appeal to a wider audience. Sprint was never needed to speed up game play, and it has only damaged the foundation of Halo’s original game play.
> >
> >
> > I do not understand why it damaged anything. You can sprint in games so what? Do you wanna have the man on the moon style back like in the old Halo games? I did not like those it was so slow and lame. Halo 4 was good Halo 5 is good and I hope Halo 6 will be even better. I am sorry but I am not into this old school Halo. It was fun at that time but things had to change. A simple thing like sprint should be in every FPS in my opinion. I did not like this “having bricks on your feed while trying to move like an octopus in a knight suit” That’s what the old Halo was if we are honest. If you liked that style then you should go and play it. I still hope for games to change and surprise me and adding sprint makes it more fun at least to me. Everyone has his opinion.
>
>
> It’s ridiculous how new halo fans seem to adopt this perspective that old school players want a slower-paced game. We don’t like sprint because there are better alternatives to make halo fast paced while maintaining the ability to optimally move and shoot at the same time (unlike newer halo games), through an increased BMS along with an increased FOV to give the illusion of moving faster.
>
> The idea that things had to change is extremely flawed, as Halo was never given a chance to replicate the game play of Halo 3, the best selling game of this franchise. If the game play from that became stale and no one liked it, then fine, we could change the game. But Bungie immediately jumped the gun to fundamentally change Halo’s core game play by making Reach, without giving 3 a second chance.

This!!! (above) I just don’t think a lot of people understand how the Sprint animation changes the game… or they just don’t have a very good imagination. Not trying to be offensive to anyone just saying. Doesn’t matter if you like sprint or dislike it, it definitely changes the game! How people don’t see this is beyond me.

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> > > > Why is this still a thing? You can sprint in Halo. It would be lame without the sprint.
> > >
> > >
> > > You know what else is lame? Conforming to the FPS industry’s standards in order to appeal to a wider audience. Sprint was never needed to speed up game play, and it has only damaged the foundation of Halo’s original game play.
> >
> >
> > I do not understand why it damaged anything. You can sprint in games so what? Do you wanna have the man on the moon style back like in the old Halo games? I did not like those it was so slow and lame. Halo 4 was good Halo 5 is good and I hope Halo 6 will be even better. I am sorry but I am not into this old school Halo. It was fun at that time but things had to change. A simple thing like sprint should be in every FPS in my opinion. I did not like this “having bricks on your feed while trying to move like an octopus in a knight suit” That’s what the old Halo was if we are honest. If you liked that style then you should go and play it. I still hope for games to change and surprise me and adding sprint makes it more fun at least to me. Everyone has his opinion.
>
>
> You know why the statement “halo has had to change” has no merit? Halos height was never given the chance to even get stale, boring,bland to the crowd, as tryhard said, it never got the chance and bungie pulled a 180 out of no where and 343 continued it. The fact that halos been regressing game by game ever since these changes doesn’t not give any support to “halo had to change”, it actually shows they need to go backwards and fix what didn’t need changed to begin with. What support do you have that justifies halos change of direction? It’s literally gone nowhere but down in sales, retention, population, etc etc. your opinion on liking sprint is fine, it’s your reasons “why” that people are going to argue and the statement “halo had to change” when overall it’s been for the worse.

And so much this!!! (Above)

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Funny how you never mentioned how equipment was bad until I said it was good…
> > >
> > >
> > > Did you say it was good? If you did, I didn’t read it
> >
> >
> > I mentioned how it was a much better alternative to AAs, because it functions as a one use Pam pickup in a way similar to power weapons.
>
>
> Was that before or after I mentioned them?

Before, either way, equipment definitely have a lesser effect on gameplay then AAs. It can be your opinion that you like the larger affect AAs have, but that’s something your definitely in the minority on.

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> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny how you never mentioned how equipment was bad until I said it was good…
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Did you say it was good? If you did, I didn’t read it
> > >
> > >
> > > I mentioned how it was a much better alternative to AAs, because it functions as a one use Pam pickup in a way similar to power weapons.
> >
> >
> > Was that before or after I mentioned them?
>
>
> Before, either way, equipment definitely have a lesser effect on gameplay then AAs. It can be your opinion that you like the larger affect AAs have, but that’s something your definitely in the minority on.

Ah. I didn’t see your post then. I didn’t think they had been brought up on this thread for awhile. And I recognize that it’s my opinion and I’m in the minority. Again, I feel like AAs didn’t have as much of a negative effect. But like you said, it’s my opinion

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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Because equipment was almost never used, had to be found on maps, and most of them still had little affect on gameplay.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I don’t know about you but bubble shield, regen, and power drain were used all the time in my experience. The others, only on occasion. They were extremely irritating, and screwed up the flow. Much more than armor abilities ever did imo.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I disagree, AA’s are far more likely to alter the established game-play mechanics than a one use, map pick-up item.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > They are being deliberately annoying, don’t fall for it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > He’s literally disagreeing just to disagree with us at this point, even if it makes no sense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > No I’m not. That is literally how I feel. Quit grouping me into the pro sprint crowd. I recognize I’m in the minority. I know that full well. My least favorite Halo multiplayer is the most popular. I dislike Halo 3 multiplayer. That my opinion. In my opinion, due to their extreme lack of balance, even more so than AA, and their unpredictability, I feel like equipment was way worse for gameplay than AAs. But that’s my opinion. And no, before you assume so, Halo 4 and Halo 5 are not my favorite multiplayers
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Funny how you never mentioned how equipment was bad until I said it was good…
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Did you say it was good? If you did, I didn’t read it
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I mentioned how it was a much better alternative to AAs, because it functions as a one use Pam pickup in a way similar to power weapons.
> > >
> > >
> > > Was that before or after I mentioned them?
> >
> >
> > Before, either way, equipment definitely have a lesser effect on gameplay then AAs. It can be your opinion that you like the larger affect AAs have, but that’s something your definitely in the minority on.
>
>
> Ah. I didn’t see your post then. I didn’t think they had been brought up on this thread for awhile. And I recognize that it’s my opinion and I’m in the minority. Again, I feel like AAs didn’t have as much of a negative effect. But like you said, it’s my opinion

Not to you, fair enough but most of the community hated them. They do get the brunt of the blame when In fact it was also the physics and dire maps and lack of ranked that also made reach suck. Anyway all of this thread is pointless they should make the game people want which is nothing like it is right now. No one like halo 5 it’s the worst game I have purchased full price in my life.

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I want to keep the Sprint

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> > > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Halo was made with a 3 part formula set up in mind.
> > > >
> > > > You have your grenades, melee, and weapons. Sprint wasn’t a part of that. The formula changed with Reach, now it is generally accepted as one of the best Halos, so returning to a 4 part formula (AA, melee, grenade, gun like Reach) would probably still work.
> > > >
> > > > Having the current gameplay with Charge, Thrust, GP, Sprint, grenade, melee, and weapons just won’t work. 7 parts is 4 too many.
> > > >
> > > > The population has also gone down faster in games that break the formula
> > >
> > >
> > > Oh my… Again with the golden triangle crap… How in the world did H3 equipment fit in the triangle at all? They completely destroy it… Yet Halo 3 is the most successful Halo.
> > >
> > > The formula is imaginary and to say that only halos like that are good, we’d be left with Halo 1 and 2.
> >
> >
> > That’s like saying that power ups and vehicles completely destroy the triangle too.
> >
> > AAs and SAs affect every fight you enter. Pick ups, and one use items like power ups, vehicles and equipment have to be collected, fought for and used correctly (i.e. not wasted or spammed).
>
>
> That doesn’t mean that they don’t destroy the triangle, which frankly is a made up idea that hasnt really been adhered to since Halo 2. Where does bubble shield, regenerator, power drain, or any other equipment fit into “weapons, grenades, melee”?

Where does vehicles or power ups fit?.

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Then play a different game

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I’m in two worlds. I see the advantages and disadvantages of sprinting. While its helpful and cool, it kind of takes away from it being a Halo game. But if you remove it in 6 altogether then people will whinge. Sooooo, I’d do a playlist that removes it. Maybe, classic Halo?

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The other way round, one mode with sprint called: halo no one likes but we put in because a couple of kids do sack.