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> > > > > > > I just find it hilarious how Exuberant makes such long posts trying to contradict everything I say or my character, but in turn reinforces it and then back tracks, and starts all over again. You are not “punished for sprinting”. Just to prove this, I will play 5 arena games tonight without even using sprint and post my results to finally shut you up. I swear to god its like arguing with a brick wall that also sucks at halo but pretends to know everything.
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> > > > > > > Pros have admitted that sprint creates a skillgap, something H5 is lacking in the first place. People who sprint too much are the ones who generally get punished. If someone is able to run all over the map on you, then you deserve it because you are terrible. I have said I dont care if the game comes with or without sprint, or if it becomes modified even more I would probably agree with a decent compromise. I can play it either way. But the anti-sprinters are seriously like little kids throwing a tantrum. Seriously, please grow up. The maps and spartan charge is the probelm, not H5`s version of sprint.
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> > > > > > You’re diamond in team arena with a 40% win/loss.
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> > > > > > Relax on the insults.
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> > > > >
> > > > > Lmao I been onyx the past seasons without a team. This season not only am I busy with school and have no team, but I hardly play it so instead I mainly do arena customs because I have been having terrible connection issues due to hurricanes crapping all over comcast infastructure in jacksonville. But okay, Mr 2nd account just to make posts. You know that is against the forum TOS right?
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> > > >
> > > > You have more excuses for your crap rank than you do for your crap mechanic.
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> > >
> > > Had a crap rank once besides the seasons when the game released. Forget the fact I run customs with champs frequently, and have gotten champ 3 times but okay. Whats your main account big guy?
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> > > Actually I have an idea! You and Exuberant get a team of 4, I will as well. Your team can sprint, mine wont. Best of 7. Lets see how much your claims about sprint combined with my “crap rank” matters at that point.
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> > Champ in SWAT and Breakout lol. You always either have diamond or just barely squeak into onyx 1500 with terrible stats. You’re not nearly good enough to be shooting down people’s opinions on the forums by saying they suck.
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> Yeah game modes where I can be more effective without a team.lol. The other mode I search randoms frequently and people on my team end up deranking, quitting, or completely terrible. You seem so confident bro, come show me how bad I am compared to you. Like I said, 4v4. Put up or shut up.
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> > > > > I just find it hilarious how Exuberant makes such long posts trying to contradict everything I say or my character, but in turn reinforces it and then back tracks, and starts all over again. You are not “punished for sprinting”. Just to prove this, I will play 5 arena games tonight without even using sprint and post my results to finally shut you up. I swear to god its like arguing with a brick wall that also sucks at halo but pretends to know everything.
> > > > >
> > > > > Pros have admitted that sprint creates a skillgap, something H5 is lacking in the first place. People who sprint too much are the ones who generally get punished. If someone is able to run all over the map on you, then you deserve it because you are terrible. I have said I dont care if the game comes with or without sprint, or if it becomes modified even more I would probably agree with a decent compromise. I can play it either way. But the anti-sprinters are seriously like little kids throwing a tantrum. Seriously, please grow up. The maps and spartan charge is the probelm, not H5`s version of sprint.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You’re diamond in team arena with a 40% win/loss.
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> > > > Relax on the insults.
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> > > Lmao I been onyx the past seasons without a team. This season not only am I busy with school and have no team, but I hardly play it so instead I mainly do arena customs because I have been having terrible connection issues due to hurricanes crapping all over comcast infastructure in jacksonville. But okay, Mr 2nd account just to make posts. You know that is against the forum TOS right?
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> > You have more excuses for your crap rank than you do for your crap mechanic.
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> Had a crap rank once besides the seasons when the game released. Forget the fact I run customs with champs frequently, and have gotten champ 3 times but okay. Whats your main account big guy?
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> Actually I have an idea! You and Exuberant get a team of 4, I will as well. Your team can sprint, mine wont. Best of 7. Lets see how much your claims about sprint combined with my “crap rank” matters at that point.
Who tf cares about your rank? It’s Halo 5 and the game has a smaller population than viva pinata
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> Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
Let’s start with gameplay issues first and move onto everything else after that. Gameplay’s what’s most important, which makes the matter of sprint individually more important than most other issues.
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> Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
Thats what I`m saying. But the over-vocal minority just continually whines about a game mechanic which actually increases skill gap.
Let me state this once again for you incredibly dense people.
MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES AND DECISION MAKING INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
I wish these people were as motivated to tack the real issues such as radar, splinter nades, spartan charge, map design, hitboxes, bullet magnetism, the list goes on.
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> > Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
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> MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
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> > Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
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> MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES AND DECISION MAKING INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
Um, except you’re wrong (at least with sprint’s case within Halo).
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> > Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
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> Thats what I`m saying. But the over-vocal minority just continually whines about a game mechanic which actually increases skill gap.
> Let me state this once again for you incredibly dense people.
> MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES AND DECISION MAKING INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
> I wish these people were as motivated to tack the real issues such as radar, splinter nades, spartan charge, map design, hitboxes, bullet magnetism, the list goes on.
The thing about saying things is that just because you say them that doesn’t make them true. That’s not how words work.
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> Let me state this once again for you incredibly dense people.
> MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES AND DECISION MAKING INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
Because an untrue base statement being repeated with the added emphasis of “period” makes it true. Yessss, we’re dense for not seeing that.
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> > > Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
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> >
> > Thats what I`m saying. But the over-vocal minority just continually whines about a game mechanic which actually increases skill gap.
> >
> > Let me state this once again for you incredibly dense people.
> > MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES AND DECISION MAKING INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
> >
> > I wish these people were as motivated to tack the real issues such as radar, splinter nades, spartan charge, map design, hitboxes, bullet magnetism, the list goes on.
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> The thing about saying things is that just because you say them that doesn’t make it true. That’s not how words work.
No, the fact that if you are sprinting at the wrong time or place and you die because of it does. I keep giving reasons why sprint does increase skill gap and all you guys can do is yell
“NUH UH, YOU ARE WRONG!!”
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> I keep giving reasons why sprint does increase skill gap and all you guys can do is yell
> “NUH UH, YOU ARE WRONG!!”
No, you keep giving reasons we dispute and prove wrong, as I myself and others have done in multi-tiered paragraphs. Your inability to see that isn’t us just being stubborn or yelling like toddlers.
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> > Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
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> Let’s start with gameplay issues first and move onto everything else after that. Gameplay’s what’s most important, which makes the matter of sprint individually more important than most other issues.
anyways how does sprint damage Halo? I haven’t seen anybody stop playing because they just don’t like sprint, that’s stupid, is just another movement option to go faster from one place to another, and don’t tell the excuse that it modifies the map design, because it doesn’t, take for example Halo online, it had classic maps that worked perfectly with sprint, also reach had a very good and fun map design in my opinion, I’ve played cuztoms on Halo 5 diabling sprint and they work perfectly, they just feel more slow paced, also if everyone care so much of the gameplay issues why has anyone argue about the terrible respawn system and timer in WZFF, as well as some glitches in both Arena and WZ maps where everyone starts to cheat, but it isn’t the case, you don’t do constructive argues for gameplay issues, you just want to complain about sprint and I don’t know the -Yoink- why.
What I find funny is that (Sin) went out of this thread not too long ago because he already has sad what he needed to say (Knowing most of us disagreed with him), then (Precision) swoops in and takes his spot. HAHAHAHHAHAAHA
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> > > > Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
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> > >
> > > Thats what I`m saying. But the over-vocal minority just continually whines about a game mechanic which actually increases skill gap.
> > > Let me state this once again for you incredibly dense people.
> > > MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES AND DECISION MAKING INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
> > > I wish these people were as motivated to tack the real issues such as radar, splinter nades, spartan charge, map design, hitboxes, bullet magnetism, the list goes on.
> >
> >
> > The thing about saying things is that just because you say them that doesn’t make it true. That’s not how words work.
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> No, the fact that if you are sprinting at the wrong time or place and you die because of it does. I keep giving reasons why sprint does increase skill gap and all you guys can do is yell
> “NUH UH, YOU ARE WRONG!!”
That doesn’t mean sprint increases the skill gap. Sprinting at the wrong time and dying because of it makes things harder for you, but easier for the opponent. Sprint simply allows people to capitalize off the mistakes of others easier rather than earn the advantage in a fight. When somebody ends up dead because they sprinted at the wrong time, that’s because they made a mistake, not because the winning player earned his kill. If player 1 got the kill on the sprinting player 2 it’s because player 2 played dumb, not because player 1 played smart. That doesn’t increase the skill gap.
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> > Let’s start with gameplay issues first and move onto everything else after that. Gameplay’s what’s most important, which makes the matter of sprint individually more important than most other issues.
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> anyways how does sprint damage Halo? I haven’t seen anybody stop playing because they just don’t like sprint, that’s stupid, is just another movement option to go faster from one place to another, and don’t tell the excuse that it modifies the map design, because it doesn’t, take for example Halo online, it had classic maps that worked perfectly with sprint, also reach had a very good and fun map design in my opinion, I’ve played cuztoms on Halo 5 diabling sprint and they work perfectly, they just feel more slow paced, also if everyone care so much of the gameplay issues why has anyone argue about the terrible respawn system and timer in WZFF, as well as some glitches in both Arena and WZ maps where everyone starts to cheat, but it isn’t the case, you don’t do constructive argues for gameplay issues, you just want to complain about sprint and I don’t know the -Yoink- why.
You should take note of what I told Precision about how just saying things doesn’t make them true.
What I will do is ask what do you like about sprint?
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> > > > > > > > > > > Debating about the polls is silly. No matter the result of them, they don’t matter. This is a creative medium.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Success in creative mediums is often attained by subverting expectations and giving people something they didn’t expect to love but end up loving.
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> > > > > > > > > > > “Anti sprinters” are convinced replacing sprint with high BMS will do this and no data exists that can disprove this theory.
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> > > > > > > > > > Equally along those lines no data exists that can prove such a theory… This being the creative medium that it is, all we can do is discuss the issue with fellow fans that are not all like-minded regarding sprint. Personally, I think I’ve heard and seen many points supporting why one high BMS will definitely not replace sprint and would make Halo worse… Anti sprinters would tell you different, but I do agree insofar that no one should be here with the intention to “disprove,” “dismantle,” and/or “destroy,” opinions from our fellow fans about this.
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> > > > > > > > > I got three reasons for you.
> > > > > > > > > 1. Halo: CE
> > > > > > > > > 2. Halo 2
> > > > > > > > > 3. Halo 3
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> > > > > > > > I’ve got three reasons for you.
> > > > > > > > 1) Reach
> > > > > > > > 2) Halo 4
> > > > > > > > 3) Halo 5
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reach, 4 & 5 are the three most controversial Halo titles.
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> > > > > > That doesn’t really mean much, just because it’s controversial, doesn’t mean it should change. Most of the abilities and mechanics that were put into Reach were meant to be put into the series earlier, some even in Halo 2. Bungie didn’t put those mechanics in because they didn’t have time and didn’t have the best set up to do it then, but if they had, then Halo 2 and 3 would have been super controversial.
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> > > > > Incorrect, they played with sprint early on and removed it due to pacing issues. Set up? Sprint has been in fps gaming since the 90’s.
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> > > > It’s not incorrect, that’s what I was referring to, they were trying to use it in Halo 2 but they couldn’t balance it right before they had to finish the game.
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> > > Pretty sure there’s no evidence of that whatsoever.
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> > There’s no evidence to the contrary. With how much of Halo 2 was cut or reworked due to time constraints, i.e. entire campaign levels, weapons, enemies, etc, we have no idea where sprint came into play.
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> There is footage of sprint in early development in Halo 2, though. One of the animation has the spartan holding up both of his middle fingers xD
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> > Let’s start with gameplay issues first and move onto everything else after that. Gameplay’s what’s most important, which makes the matter of sprint individually more important than most other issues.
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> anyways how does sprint damage Halo? I haven’t seen anybody stop playing because they just don’t like sprint, that’s stupid, is just another movement option to go faster from one place to another, and don’t tell the excuse that it modifies the map design, because it doesn’t, take for example Halo online, it had classic maps that worked perfectly with sprint, also reach had a very good and fun map design in my opinion, I’ve played cuztoms on Halo 5 diabling sprint and they work perfectly, they just feel more slow paced, also if everyone care so much of the gameplay issues why has anyone argue about the terrible respawn system and timer in WZFF, as well as some glitches in both Arena and WZ maps where everyone starts to cheat, but it isn’t the case, you don’t do constructive argues for gameplay issues, you just want to complain about sprint and I don’t know the -Yoink- why.
omg here’s another one that doesn’t know much of what he’s talking about. Btw, we aren’t talking about warzone or arena because a lot of us don’t even have Halo 5 installed anymore
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> > Let’s be honest, with the current state of Halo sprint is the least thing people want to get removed or even modified.
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> Thats what I`m saying. But the over-vocal minority just continually whines about a game mechanic which actually increases skill gap.
>
> Let me state this once again for you incredibly dense people.
> MORE MOVEMENT POSSIBILITIES AND DECISION MAKING INCREASES THE SKILL GAP. PERIOD.
>
> I wish these people were as motivated to tack the real issues such as radar, splinter nades, spartan charge, map design, hitboxes, bullet magnetism, the list goes on.
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> anyways how does sprint damage Halo? I haven’t seen anybody stop playing because they just don’t like sprint, that’s stupid, is just another movement option to go faster from one place to another, and don’t tell the excuse that it modifies the map design, because it doesn’t, take for example Halo online, it had classic maps that worked perfectly with sprint, also reach had a very good and fun map design in my opinion, I’ve played cuztoms on Halo 5 diabling sprint and they work perfectly, they just feel more slow paced, also if everyone care so much of the gameplay issues why has anyone argue about the terrible respawn system and timer in WZFF, as well as some glitches in both Arena and WZ maps where everyone starts to cheat, but it isn’t the case, you don’t do constructive argues for gameplay issues, you just want to complain about sprint and I don’t know the -Yoink- why.
Refer to below.
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> The faster movement speed coupled with your inability to fight when sprinting allows people to run off with minimal punishment, given their opponents can’t follow without putting their own weapon down. This in tandem with the map’s design (Segmented and elongated due to sprint) leads to combat being broken off with ease since these people can break line of sight easily, which slows the pace of the game down. This all just compounds into punishing and rewarding the wrong people, which overall lessens the game’s skillgap. That’s what we’re mainly upset about.
