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> WRONG! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, sprint allows you to get back into the battle quicker. Hell sometimes, on bigger maps, I would like sprint to be even faster! KEEP SPRINT!!!
Getting back to the battle quickly isn’t necessarily a good thing though. It takes away some of the incentive to try to stay alive. It takes away the tension you used to feel when sneaking into the enemy base if after you die, you can get right back where you were quickly.
No that’s stupid
-Yoink!- will this be gone? I want new popular topics -_-
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Someone call, the MONITOR.
lol
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Nah, it’s only gonna be ‘this update sucks’ and ‘where’s my falcon’ pretty soon with the update teases that will be coming out.
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> > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
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> Just don’t sprint. The answer has been bestowed to you OP, good luck in BTB walking to the objectives.
lmao this -Yoinking!- guy… “ADAPT HUR DUR DON LIKE SPRINT JUST DONT USE IT AND LOSE LOL”
sprints fine
Nothing you say will change the mind of 80% of the new players that flocked to Halo before playing Reach or the original trilogy. No armor abilities = good Halo map design and in general a fun good experience that’s more fun and competitive than Halo 4 and 5.
I agree with no sprint in halo, it sadly I doubt it will be taken out, might as well switch over to Doom.
leave sprint on
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIMPLE SOLUTION.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 343 Please make a “Disable sprint” skull.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Way to entirely miss the point. I can ignore the sprint button all I want, sprint is still in the game and the game is still designed around it.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I didn’t miss the point exactly, I just think people are simple minded cry babies.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > If you want the old Halo back, buy an original xbox, buy the original Halo, enjoy yourself.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking only into the past will stop you moving forward.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Can you not read or do you just purposely ignore things?
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> > > > > > > > > > > Popular games RIGHT NOW do not use sprint(CS go, doom, overwatch). What does the past have to do with this?
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> > > > > > > > > > There is a character in Overwatch who has sprint. Probably one of the best characters in the game.
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> > > > > > > > > Yeah and Soldier 76 is used less than 7% of the time, so clearly, people aren’t sweating not having sprint.
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> > > > > > > > LMAO!! What are you, a Blizzard employee? Where are you pulling these numbers from?
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> > > > > > > An Overwatch stats site. Just sort by popularity.
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> > > > > > I’m at work, so I’m not clicking that unless it’s an official Blizzard site.
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> > > > > That’s fine. Whenever you get to it. It’s an interesting site all the same.
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> > > > I’d like to interject. So, Overwatch doesn’t have sprint, aside from one character. So are we saying that other games are popular without sprint? If we’re going to use Over watch as an example of a “sprintless” game, you also have to include what Overwatch does have, not just what it is lacking. It also has classes - characters with unique abilities. It’s not even close to an apples to apples comparison. It’s a completely different thing altogether.
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> > > But it’s k when people ignore every other potentially unique factor of a sprintless Halo game and assume it would be an exact clone of a previous game.
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> > Yes. Because it’s a Halo to Halo comparison.
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> But we’re comparing today to a 10 year old game? A different time altogether. It’s not 2007. That ship has long since sailed. Personally, I don’t think it’s the fault of Halo, but due to the success of other games. Maybe Halo just isn’t popular anymore. Times change and tastes change. People move on. I don’t listen to hair metal from the 80’s or grunge from the 90’s anymore. There’s much more new and exciting things that grab my interest.
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> I really hope that you do get the game you want. I truly do. One that hearkens back to the heyday or golden age of Halo. No sprint, no abilities, equal starts, no clamber or charge, BR starts, whatever. I’ll still play it. I still love Halo. Why I want to see it happen is because I’m genuinely curious as to how that game will fair in this market and time period. The market has grown considerably, and there are more games than ever. Holding market attention is no mere feat. There has to be something unique to your product to hold an audience. Something your competition doesn’t have. Halo was a pioneer in this respect, bringing fps to console. Now? I’m curious if a modernized version of the classic can hold it’s ground without any of the things these forums lament so much.
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> We spend so much time debating what needs to be removed to make it like the old days. Maybe it has nothing with any of that. Maybe there are just other and new alternatives that people want to play? I don’t know. I think we spend way too much time wrapping ourselves around the axle about how to capture the past in the present.
It’s not about the past though. There are games out there right now in every segment of the fps category (military, class based, arena) that don’t use sprint. If you removed sprint from h5 and kept all the other SAs, the game is still radically different from the trilogy halo games.
Hello everyone, this is my first post ever, been playing halo since 2001. I just had to log in and give my opinion on the subject cause Halo is very close to my heart.
Just a quick background: 2001 bought halo 1 and Xbox after playing the demo in shops :D… halo 2 around 2004 → local multiplayer FFA and campaign for hour to no end… 2007 bought halo 3 and Xbox 360 and so on, buying every game including halo 5. You can check my stats and see I’m not n00b → no need to get gud.
What totally broke the halo feeling for me was not just the sprinting, it was also all the jumps that need clambering to get over (I can’t out smart someone by jumping sideways and keep shooting), thrusters that enabled players to challenge me and get away with it (player don’t have to think smart or plan ahead).
And the grand finale, the sprinting. People say it helps you back in the action faster → one aspect that was unique to halo was that slower pace that allowed you to make plans ahead and not just run mindlessly back to battle. Maps have been made with clamber and sprint in mind → it makes me feel like a tiny Spartan, all the corridors and halls are wide and extreme long (halo reach map remakes for example halo 3s the Pit had this problem) and my enemies are on top on lamp posts around the map. Keeping a position which was very important in previous halos is now almost impossible because of the fast pace that the players can get back in action and even clamber up next to you…
Don’t even mention the 18m radar… And this comes from a player who was 48 in halo 3 MLG → no radar
sorry for the long post, just had to say my opinion after seeing my beloved franchise change so much and the community fighting…
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> WRONG! I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, sprint allows you to get back into the battle quicker. Hell sometimes, on bigger maps, I would like sprint to be even faster! KEEP SPRINT!!!
You don’t need sprint to accomplish that.
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> > that’s ridiculous. Sprint doesn’t take away from any aspect of the game. If anything, it ads to the competitiveness. Also helping mobilization in bigger map areas. Good luck trying to play btb strongholds or ctf and only being able to walk briskly to your objectives. It also assists when your sheilds are down and need to run for cover. Or if you need to run up on a tank/mantis before they fire a canon and destroy it. Even in close quarters it proves beneficial. You can Spartan charge mid air only while sprinting. And it helps to charge the -Yoink- out of players around close corners. Need I go on?
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> If you think no sprint makes the game slower your sooooo wrong, a ce 2v2 to 50 on blood gulch takes the same time as a 2v2 to 25 on any h5 map, higher BMS is key
Actually all you need in HCE is 3 weapons, sniper, rockets, and the pistol. The pistol is a 3 shot kill and the sniper in HCE is also super easy to use plus all weapons pretty much respawn right after you pick them up so everyone can have the same weapon and just repeat kill each other which makes the game go really fast.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > SIMPLE SOLUTION.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Way to entirely miss the point. I can ignore the sprint button all I want, sprint is still in the game and the game is still designed around it.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I didn’t miss the point exactly, I just think people are simple minded cry babies.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > If you want the old Halo back, buy an original xbox, buy the original Halo, enjoy yourself.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Looking only into the past will stop you moving forward.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Can you not read or do you just purposely ignore things?
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> > > > > > > > > > > Popular games RIGHT NOW do not use sprint(CS go, doom, overwatch). What does the past have to do with this?
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> > > > > > > > > Yeah and Soldier 76 is used less than 7% of the time, so clearly, people aren’t sweating not having sprint.
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> > > > > > > > LMAO!! What are you, a Blizzard employee? Where are you pulling these numbers from?
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> > > > > > I’m at work, so I’m not clicking that unless it’s an official Blizzard site.
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> > > > > That’s fine. Whenever you get to it. It’s an interesting site all the same.
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> > > > I’d like to interject. So, Overwatch doesn’t have sprint, aside from one character. So are we saying that other games are popular without sprint? If we’re going to use Over watch as an example of a “sprintless” game, you also have to include what Overwatch does have, not just what it is lacking. It also has classes - characters with unique abilities. It’s not even close to an apples to apples comparison. It’s a completely different thing altogether.
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> But we’re comparing today to a 10 year old game? A different time altogether. It’s not 2007. That ship has long since sailed. Personally, I don’t think it’s the fault of Halo, but due to the success of other games. Maybe Halo just isn’t popular anymore. Times change and tastes change. People move on. I don’t listen to hair metal from the 80’s or grunge from the 90’s anymore. There’s much more new and exciting things that grab my interest.
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> I really hope that you do get the game you want. I truly do. One that hearkens back to the heyday or golden age of Halo. No sprint, no abilities, equal starts, no clamber or charge, BR starts, whatever. I’ll still play it. I still love Halo. Why I want to see it happen is because I’m genuinely curious as to how that game will fair in this market and time period. The market has grown considerably, and there are more games than ever. Holding market attention is no mere feat. There has to be something unique to your product to hold an audience. Something your competition doesn’t have. Halo was a pioneer in this respect, bringing fps to console. Now? I’m curious if a modernized version of the classic can hold it’s ground without any of the things these forums lament so much.
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> We spend so much time debating what needs to be removed to make it like the old days. Maybe it has nothing with any of that. Maybe there are just other and new alternatives that people want to play? I don’t know. I think we spend way too much time wrapping ourselves around the axle about how to capture the past in the present.
This is what some people don’t seem to comprehend.
I can see what you mean by removing sprint will make Halo Halo. Our loved classics didn’t have sprinting and no one complained about it and it was fun. But IMO I think sprint should stay.
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> I really hope that you do get the game you want. I truly do. One that hearkens back to the heyday or golden age of Halo. No sprint, no abilities, equal starts, no clamber or charge, BR starts, whatever. I’ll still play it. I still love Halo. Why I want to see it happen is because I’m genuinely curious as to how that game will fair in this market and time period. The market has grown considerably, and there are more games than ever. Holding market attention is no mere feat. There has to be something unique to your product to hold an audience. Something your competition doesn’t have. Halo was a pioneer in this respect, bringing fps to console. Now? I’m curious if a modernized version of the classic can hold it’s ground without any of the things these forums lament so much.
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> We spend so much time debating what needs to be removed to make it like the old days. Maybe it has nothing with any of that. Maybe there are just other and new alternatives that people want to play? I don’t know. I think we spend way too much time wrapping ourselves around the axle about how to capture the past in the present.
I appreciate that you’re relatively reasonable (and coherent), but how can you possibly say this seriously when we haven’t had a game that follows the core formula since 2009, a game that didn’t have PvP? You seriously want to suggest that “maybe Halo just isn’t popular anymore,” but you would prefer not to acknowledge the fact that Halo 5 does not play like a Halo game. You can point out that it’s “not 2007” all you want, but the fact of the matter is that the last time a major Halo release didn’t defecate all over the core tenants of the franchise, it was an unprecedented success that was in no way threatened by the rise of other modern games like Modern Warefare which remain popular to this day. People are not choosing other games over “2007 Halo,” they are choosing other games over “modern Halo.” Those are two very clearly different things. Does this inherently mean that a Halo made by developers that aren’t tripping over themselves to appeal to CoD player focus groups would inherently be a massive success? Certainly not, but there is plenty of evidence to suggest that this would be far better than turning Halo into a nearly unrecognizable, generic modern shooter. Outside of staunchly pro-modern-Halo sites like Waypoint and Reddit Halo, people are not talking about not liking Halo. They are talking about how trash every title since Halo 3 has been.
You even mention the extremely obvious reason that this makes sense “there has to be something unique to your product to hold an audience.” Yes, something Halo has had less and less of as core elements of the classic, successful games are replaced or undermined by ideas ripped directly from popular games, with little regard for whether they will actually fit. A real Halo game would be unique in this current market. What 343 has been doing is really not. Market growth is a factor, to be sure, but so is making Halo into a generic sci-fi shooter that sells primarily based on the brand name at this point.
Honestly, why is it every day I log on to Waypoint, and everytime I check the Forums, the First things I see, or normally see are “Halo shouldn’t have sprint, Halo isn’t Halo, Halo is so bad, Halo sucks now, halo is trash.” Like, why everyday someone has to complain about a game mechanic that has been around for about 5 almost 6 years now(Yes I’m talking about reach even though that was an optional ability.) It’s honestly so annoying to come on and see this topic long every day and cause a big circle jerk of complaints and comments arguing about why an optional game mechanic that multiple people have said before, if you don’t want to sprint, just don’t sprint. I realize that these may be true nostalgic or veteran players, and I’m not hating on them, I actually understand the idea of the non sprint game mode to play. And honestly, sprint is not even that bad. Without sprint, you wouldn’t be spartan charging, getting out of areas quick enough, getting to places quick enough since maps are much more bigger this game, you wouldn’t be sprint sliding which is cool, you wouldn’t be getting on high ledges, the game would feel a little bit slow paced. Granted, not using sprint does have it’s advantages as that second of lag time from you stopping sprint and shooting costs kills, but at the end of the day, at a game that has already been produced, who gives a hoot?
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> > > > > > Removing sprint wont make halo halo again. Removing sprint will make halo halo Year:2000 version again. Go play Halo CE if you don’t like or aren’t good enough to keep up with sprint.
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> > > > > 2 of the top 3 fps games right now do not use sprint. What does 2000 have to do with it? This is 2016.
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> > > > 2000 means Welcome to the 21st century games aren’t the same as back then
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> > Literally game sFPS game has sprint there is no stopping it now if u dun like it u shud hav sad sumthin a wile ago if u luv sprint yay
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Yes it is and I take offense to that