So, you literally took what I wrote, seemingly didn’t read it, accused me of being belittling (Which I wasn’t), and didn’t raise many valid points. You write:
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> I am done with you. Like I said before, you are the flipping reason pro-sprinters, and even neutral people like myself, hate anti-sprinters. Take a page or 2 from Naqser’s book, and not be completely belittling. It is people like you who give Waypoint as a whole a bad name.
First off, if you’re so neutral, why’re you defending sprint to the death and not commenting on what a singular BMS provides? I mean, I think there was one paragraph way back when on how you were neutral and didn’t care, but there wasn’t exactly elaboration on it.
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> You cant believe I have the gall to suggest that you arent perfect. That you dont back up your statements? Well believe it man. Because you dont give any valid reason as to why none of those have skill gap. Slide doesnt have skill gap because “youre not constantly doing it” is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard! You dont need to be constantly doing something for it to have skill gap. Does crouch jump have skill gap? Yes! Are you constantly doing it!? NO! Sliding has a skill gap because you need to know when to use it, how to use it. If I slide towards you but dont quite make it to melee you, I can put myself in a bad position, or if I miss you when I shoot. Thrusters dont have skill gap just because it makes it easier for people who couldnt strafe to strafe!? Also ridiculous. Thrusters have much more use and practicallity than just strafing. You need to know when to use them, especially because you cant shoot when doing so. And shouldnt the people who have been strafing since halo 1 be able to figure out how to use thrusters more effectively than the people who dont strafe well? Jumping and thrusting to certain areas, or off a ledge, or up behind someone. And crouch jumping has never had that much skill to it either, adding clamber just changes how it is used and the kind of jumps you make. It is still quite possible to miss, and there are relatively difficult jumps to make even with clamber. You can jump higher and crouch and more easily make clamber jumps as well. Crouch jumping is still a thing to, it’s use hasnt gone away with clamber.
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Again, read the three paragraphs I quoted for you. As in, actually read them.
You know “constantly doing it” isn’t in reference to a frame of time, but a frame of you actually controlling your character and motions? When you slide, thrust or clamber, you’re locked to a certain axis of movement until the action’s done and it’s done via a simple button press. When you crouch strafe, you’re not, and have full control, and when you crouch jump, you have full control, albeit you also need to learn and press multiple buttons in sequence to properly do it. To say “crouch jumping has never had that much skill to it” is blatantly wrong, and shows another lack of understanding of the game. You should stream yourself doing a common speedrun route of CE’s “The Library” in which you need to crouch jump a lot, flawlessly. (Srsly)
Even past that, clamber eliminates crouch jumping nearly entirely because the map’s dictated around the ability and thus vertically raised. That’s coupled with how your jump height isn’t as high, so you just BARELY make ledges to get a clamber up. Best example for this is Truth. Try crouch jumping up to the cubbies by spawn. Or from bottom mid to the top ring. Hint: You can’t without clamber.
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> BMS doesnt always hurt poor gameplay… nope it doesnt. If I am running(walking) around, I can get caught in a bad situations, but still be far enough away that I can go off an edge, go up a lift, and quickly disappear. Sprinting always rewards bad gameplay? Nope it doesnt, If I am running around like a chicken with its head cut off, I will die a lot. If I am losing a shooting battle and try to run, more often than not, I WILL DIE. You want proof!? Give me proof for your garbage statements! You think I’m just gonna take your word for it!? You wont take mine, why should I take yours. I can deny that BMS has every single thing Sprint does and more, because by nature it doesnt. THEY ARE DIFFERENT, they play differently. Which one is ‘better’ is in fact a matter of opinion. GET OVER THAT!
Give you proof? Did you not read the same three paragraphs I linked to you twice? I took your word and debated it, hence how I wrote that. To that point, you can deny it, but that doesn’t make the PoV right.
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> You think everyone’s life should revolve around arguing against ‘your superior intellect’!? -Billy Mays rage- I will more than likely enjoy it in both situations!
Have you missed every point where I say it’s fine to like or enjoy something something, but to deny its flaws and how it could be improved is where the issues lay?
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> Guess what else, most of your posts have just included the same argument over and over again. I dont need to repeat myself a dozen times. Neither do you. And half the time I didnt explain myself I figured that the answer was COMMON SENSE enough for someone of your caliber to grasp. Apparently I overestimated you. GET OVER YOURSELF. YOUR ARGUMENT ISNT THE ONLY RIGHT ONE. THERE ISNT ONLY ONE RIGHT ONE. GET OVER IT!
To your view, maybe. But in this case, maybe if you read through my posts, you’ll legitimately understand the PoV I come from. Also, I wouldn’t need to repeat myself if you didn’t show a constant failure to read AND understand what I write before responding.
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> And yes, I realize I played right into your hands because I gave you a reaction. Owell. You are flipping -Yoink!- me off. I first started posting on waypoint to have fun conversations about my favorite series. I expected back and forth, but this is ridiculous.Time has no meaning huh, just because I can come back and reply to your stupid comment in 5 days? Why the crap would I do that? This isnt a fun back and forth, an intelligent back and forth, this is STUPID! Today is the first time I have gotten wrapped up in this thread significantly, and I regret it, because this thread is freakin toxic.
First off, I never aimed for a reaction, I aimed for a debate. Second, no, time doesn’t have a meaning on a forum. Post when you can, rather than make irrelevant excuses as to why you “can’t”. To that point, it’s not toxic just because someone holds a different (ahem) opinion than you.
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> Apparently you have all the time in the world to nitpick all of my statements. Im sorry I dont have that. I dont have time to conduct a ton of tests of the gameplay of each and every halo game, compare them to eachother, develop a hypothesis and thesis statement for each test. Sorry not everyone is as flipping passionate about not having some stupid abilities in a game as you.
I mean, of course I do? I don’t just glaze over things, or not read them. If there’s an error, or some sort of fallacy present, I will bring it up, because that’s exactly what a debate is. Also, you can know elements of game design without classes. And in addition, since I have this time, wouldn’t that just make my points all the more relevant, since I have more time to run this and analyse the game than you do, and would have more insight?
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> I’m sorry you have no other life than to antagonize people over whether sprint should be in Halo or not. But its not my problem.
When at all did I antagonize people? I sure didn’t with you. I’ve been debating heatedly, sure. But I haven’t once been “rude”.