The sprint discussion thread

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> > > > Why do so many of you hate sprinting
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> > > That’s a good question- my theory is that most of the anti sprinters think they’d play better without sprint so they want it removed to cater to their play style so they can chase people easier.
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> > 500 pages in, over 10 000 posts, and you have a theory about it, when there are posts about why it’s disliked, and have been since its inclusion in Reach.
> > What a mystery.
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> Sin can’t wrap his head around how a poll with more than two answers works. You shouldn’t expect him to be able to understand in depth explanations of sprints effects on the game.

The issue wasn’t the said poll at all. The issue was the way the Reddit User changed the question of the poll and the responses that were in that poll when he referenced it, along with the Reddit user failing to acknowledge that the poll was still less than 1 day old at the time of those “results,” he pulled so it was still very much inconclusive. That’s skewing the results of the poll either way you look at it and on the contrary I actually have listened to both sides regarding the effect on sprint. You’re just trying to discredit me as you’ve always done with pro sprinters in this thread which is your method of operating.

You know what I find most eye-opening about that poll?? It just asked players if they wanted to keep flinch/sprint… That’s it- yet it’s important enough for you to cite it. Point is that you told me and others that our pro sprint opinions are worthless if we don’t explain ourselves yet no one who voted in those polls that mean so much to you now had to explain themselves. Once again those opinions matter to you because they support your opinion- opinions that don’t support your own never seem to matter to you- such as all the polls that pro sprint did win in these forums…

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> > Sprint is an evolution in any game, remove it is not an option
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> Then why did shooters ditch it after (or was it in?) the 90’s? Are you too young to know a world without sprint in shooters?

Why attack someone who was trying to contribute to this thread… You always seem to try your best to run pro sprinters out, don’t you? So why not accuse someone of being immature because they prefer sprint, it fits with the way you treat people in this thread that do not agree with you.

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> > Do these people who parrot nonsense like “Halo would die if they removed sprint” and “its become standard in modern FPS” not realise CS:GO the most popular FPS in the world does not have sprint and has largely remained the same gane for years ? Not every game needs to conform to the COD model or “evolve” to be popular or stay that way, that isnt what made Halo the massive franchise its is today and it isnt what will assure its survival for years to come.
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> Cs:go is completely different to halo in every aspect. It would be like comparing Assassin’s creed to Elder Scrolls. Sure, they’re both Rpg’s, but that’s like it and the fact how you get to kill people and collect stuff. Now as far as I know, Cs:go is WAY more tactical as (I think) it’s one life. Also, you wouldn’t expect a swat force to go sprinting around now, would you? But you would expect that in a war simulation where there’s tonnes of places to show off their abilities and out flank their opponents.
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> So to everyone, stop bringing up the fact that Cs:go has no sprint. Halo and Cs:go have next to nothing in common at all apart from how they’re both fps’s

Well done you’ve completley missed the entire point of my post

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> > > > > Why do so many of you hate sprinting
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> > > > That’s a good question- my theory is that most of the anti sprinters think they’d play better without sprint so they want it removed to cater to their play style so they can chase people easier.
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> > > 500 pages in, over 10 000 posts, and you have a theory about it, when there are posts about why it’s disliked, and have been since its inclusion in Reach.
> > > What a mystery.
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> > Sin can’t wrap his head around how a poll with more than two answers works. You shouldn’t expect him to be able to understand in depth explanations of sprints effects on the game.
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> The issue wasn’t the said poll at all. The issue was the way the Reddit User changed the question of the poll and the responses that were in that poll when he referenced it, along with the Reddit user failing to acknowledge that the poll was still less than 1 day old at the time of those “results,” he pulled so it was still very much inconclusive. That’s skewing the results of the poll either way you look at it and on the contrary I actually have listened to both sides regarding the effect on sprint. You’re just trying to discredit me as you’ve always done with pro sprinters in this thread which is your method of operating.
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> You know what I find most eye-opening about that poll?? It just asked players if they wanted to keep flinch/sprint… That’s it- yet it’s important enough for you to cite it. Point is that you told me and others that our pro sprint opinions are worthless if we don’t explain ourselves yet no one who voted in those polls that mean so much to you now had to explain themselves. Once again those opinions matter to you because they support your opinion- opinions that don’t support your own never seem to matter to you- such as all the polls that sprint did win in these forums

Whatever you say, man. Your poll reading skills - or lack thereof - aren’t hurting me.

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> > > Sprint is an evolution in any game, remove it is not an option
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> > Then why did shooters ditch it after (or was it in?) the 90’s? Are you too young to know a world without sprint in shooters?
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> That’s an obnoxious way to attack someone who was trying to contribute to this thread… But you always seem to try your best to run pro sprinters out, don’t you? So why not accuse someone of being immature because they prefer sprint, it fits with the way you treat people in this thread that do not agree with you.

They were simple questions. Take a chill pill and stop whining.

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> > > Do these people who parrot nonsense like “Halo would die if they removed sprint” and “its become standard in modern FPS” not realise CS:GO the most popular FPS in the world does not have sprint and has largely remained the same gane for years ? Not every game needs to conform to the COD model or “evolve” to be popular or stay that way, that isnt what made Halo the massive franchise its is today and it isnt what will assure its survival for years to come.
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> > Cs:go is completely different to halo in every aspect. It would be like comparing Assassin’s creed to Elder Scrolls. Sure, they’re both Rpg’s, but that’s like it and the fact how you get to kill people and collect stuff. Now as far as I know, Cs:go is WAY more tactical as (I think) it’s one life. Also, you wouldn’t expect a swat force to go sprinting around now, would you? But you would expect that in a war simulation where there’s tonnes of places to show off their abilities and out flank their opponents.
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> > So to everyone, stop bringing up the fact that Cs:go has no sprint. Halo and Cs:go have next to nothing in common at all apart from how they’re both fps’s
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> Well done you’ve completley missed the entire point of my post

… Well… See y’all later! boosts away with jet pack

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> > > > > > Why do so many of you hate sprinting
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> > > > > That’s a good question- my theory is that most of the anti sprinters think they’d play better without sprint so they want it removed to cater to their play style so they can chase people easier.
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> > > > 500 pages in, over 10 000 posts, and you have a theory about it, when there are posts about why it’s disliked, and have been since its inclusion in Reach.
> > > > What a mystery.
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> > > Sin can’t wrap his head around how a poll with more than two answers works. You shouldn’t expect him to be able to understand in depth explanations of sprints effects on the game.
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> > The issue wasn’t the said poll at all. The issue was the way the Reddit User changed the question of the poll and the responses that were in that poll when he referenced it, along with the Reddit user failing to acknowledge that the poll was still less than 1 day old at the time of those “results,” he pulled so it was still very much inconclusive. That’s skewing the results of the poll either way you look at it and on the contrary I actually have listened to both sides regarding the effect on sprint. You’re just trying to discredit me as you’ve always done with pro sprinters in this thread which is your method of operating.
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> > You know what I find most eye-opening about that poll?? It just asked players if they wanted to keep flinch/sprint… That’s it- yet it’s important enough for you to cite it. Point is that you told me and others that our pro sprint opinions are worthless if we don’t explain ourselves yet no one who voted in those polls that mean so much to you now had to explain themselves. Once again those opinions matter to you because they support your opinion- opinions that don’t support your own never seem to matter to you- such as all the polls that sprint did win in these forums
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> Whatever you say, man. Your poll reading skill - or lack thereof - aren’t hurting me.
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> > > > Sprint is an evolution in any game, remove it is not an option
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> > > Then why did shooters ditch it after (or was it in?) the 90’s? Are you too young to know a world without sprint in shooters?
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> > That’s an obnoxious way to attack someone who was trying to contribute to this thread… But you always seem to try your best to run pro sprinters out, don’t you? So why not accuse someone of being immature because they prefer sprint, it fits with the way you treat people in this thread that do not agree with you.
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> They were simple questions. Take a chill pill and stop whining.

Yeah totally deflect and avoid my main points… Just like you’ve done so many times in the past. Anytime I bring up a point you have any trouble with you pretend like it didn’t happen. You pick out the easiest smallest tid bits and come up with a cool little one-liner, like, “take a chill pill,” instead of addressing the points that you keep on demanding to see from pro sprinters… No wonder you “have yet to see,” those points- you put your blinders on anytime someone gives you them.

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> > Sprint is an evolution in any game, remove it is not an option
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> Of course it is an option.
> Sprint is only a mechanic that’s subject to any decision the developers make of it.
> Just like:
> -Custom global loadouts
> -Bloom
> -Armor Abilities
> -Dual Wielding
> -Grenade Indicators
> -Flinch
> -Personal Ordnance

You are ok, but if Halo 6 has not sprint, 343i must remake the entire gameplay, and that means a big change once again, like Halo 4,

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I played wolfestein 3D, the first FPS, i played Doom too, who is young?

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> I played wolfestein 3D, the first FPS, i played Doom too, who is young?

Great, then answer my first question. Sprint wasn’t created in 2007.

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> Id rather keep sprint.

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> > > > > > Why do so many of you hate sprinting
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> > > > > That’s a good question- my theory is that most of the anti sprinters think they’d play better without sprint so they want it removed to cater to their play style so they can chase people easier.
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> > > > 500 pages in, over 10 000 posts, and you have a theory about it, when there are posts about why it’s disliked, and have been since its inclusion in Reach.
> > > > What a mystery.
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> > You know what I find most eye-opening about that poll?? It just asked players if they wanted to keep flinch/sprint… That’s it- yet it’s important enough for you to cite it. Point is that you told me and others that our pro sprint opinions are worthless if we don’t explain ourselves yet no one who voted in those polls that mean so much to you now had to explain themselves. Once again those opinions matter to you because they support your opinion- opinions that don’t support your own never seem to matter to you- such as all the polls that sprint did win in these forums
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> Whatever you say, man. Your poll reading skills - or lack thereof - aren’t hurting me.
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Point is that you need to stop discounting pro sprinters who just want to give their opinion about sprint if you’re going to keep referencing polls that were taken regarding players opinions on sprint.

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> but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?

Okease. No.

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> > > > > > That’s a good question- my theory is that most of the anti sprinters think they’d play better without sprint so they want it removed to cater to their play style so they can chase people easier.
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> > > > > 500 pages in, over 10 000 posts, and you have a theory about it, when there are posts about why it’s disliked, and have been since its inclusion in Reach.
> > > > > What a mystery.
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> > > You know what I find most eye-opening about that poll?? It just asked players if they wanted to keep flinch/sprint… That’s it- yet it’s important enough for you to cite it. Point is that you told me and others that our pro sprint opinions are worthless if we don’t explain ourselves yet no one who voted in those polls that mean so much to you now had to explain themselves. Once again those opinions matter to you because they support your opinion- opinions that don’t support your own never seem to matter to you- such as all the polls that sprint did win in these forums
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> > Whatever you say, man. Your poll reading skills - or lack thereof - aren’t hurting me.
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> You need to stop discounting pro sprinters who just want to give their opinion about sprint- especially if you’re going to keep referencing polls that were taken regarding players opinions on sprint.

If they want to make some claim about why sprint is better or why no sprint is worse, then they should back it up. If they don’t like that, then they shouldn’t post.

Just learn to read polls man. That’s on you, I can’t help you there. I don’t know why you keep bringing it up.

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> > > > > No sprint makes me almost as depressed as not being the author of this topic.
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> > > > Yeah, I don’t want to see sprint removed either… But at the same time I feel we have to respect OP’s right to say how they feel about sprint too. I do personally feel this thread has been unnaturally kept alive and propelled by some of the anti-sprinters who came after OP, but at least the monitors helped re-shape this into a neutral topic.
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> > > Yeah, it was dead for a week or 2, and then SOMEONE had to revive it. I am glad the title is more neutral now though.
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> > > I did just reread the OP’s post though and it makes NO sense. No sprint in campaign!? That is the one place where sprint makes the most sense and is the most useful for EVERYONE involved. If I had a dime for every time I wished I had sprint on the Ark, the Covenant, Halo, the Library, and ESPECIALLY Mombasa streets, (I think you get the point) I’d be a rich man.
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> Don’t get me wrong, OP should be able to speak their mind like that but the title of the thread and content in the OP was (and still is inside the OP) whole-heartedly bias. And

No, they can’t. It’s determined by posts and views, the mods don’t chose to pin anything. They can sticky threads, but can’t pin them to the most popular list.

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> > > > > No sprint makes me almost as depressed as not being the author of this topic.
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> > > > Yeah, I don’t want to see sprint removed either… But at the same time I feel we have to respect OP’s right to say how they feel about sprint too. I do personally feel this thread has been unnaturally kept alive and propelled by some of the anti-sprinters who came after OP, but at least the monitors helped re-shape this into a neutral topic.
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> > > Yeah, it was dead for a week or 2, and then SOMEONE had to revive it. I am glad the title is more neutral now though.
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> > > I did just reread the OP’s post though and it makes NO sense. No sprint in campaign!? That is the one place where sprint makes the most sense and is the most useful for EVERYONE involved. If I had a dime for every time I wished I had sprint on the Ark, the Covenant, Halo, the Library, and ESPECIALLY Mombasa streets, (I think you get the point) I’d be a rich man.
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> It wasn’t even in the 1st page of topics on the Halo 5 forum…thats pretty dead of you ask me.

Dead is when no one is posting on it. It was getting posted on quite a bit. Not getting a post for 5/6 hours isn’t dead.

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> > > > > > > That’s a good question- my theory is that most of the anti sprinters think they’d play better without sprint so they want it removed to cater to their play style so they can chase people easier.
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> > > > > > 500 pages in, over 10 000 posts, and you have a theory about it, when there are posts about why it’s disliked, and have been since its inclusion in Reach.
> > > > > > What a mystery.
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> > > > You know what I find most eye-opening about that poll?? It just asked players if they wanted to keep flinch/sprint… That’s it- yet it’s important enough for you to cite it. Point is that you told me and others that our pro sprint opinions are worthless if we don’t explain ourselves yet no one who voted in those polls that mean so much to you now had to explain themselves. Once again those opinions matter to you because they support your opinion- opinions that don’t support your own never seem to matter to you- such as all the polls that sprint did win in these forums
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> > > Whatever you say, man. Your poll reading skills - or lack thereof - aren’t hurting me.
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> > You need to stop discounting pro sprinters who just want to give their opinion about sprint- especially if you’re going to keep referencing polls that were taken regarding players opinions on sprint.
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> If they want to make some claim about why sprint is better or why no sprint is worse, then they should back it up. If they don’t like that, then they shouldn’t post.
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> Just learn to read polls man. That’s on you, I can’t help you there. I don’t know why you keep bringing it up.

No you can’t defend yourself here or deflect anything this time- you have absolutely NO RIGHT to tell someone they shouldn’t post.

And you know perfectly well why I’m bringing up the polls - you want to use polls to defend your anti sprint opinion but NO ONE in those polls you use now were required to back up their opinions on sprint. Under your logic you shouldn’t ever reference a poll again because they don’t have to back up their opinions to vote in those polls.

What it actually boils down to is that you want another way to try to discredit anyone who is pro sprint, but that’s not the point. The point is that you’re being a pure hypocrite by citing polls about sprint when those are just opinions in the first place and then flipping around here and trying to tell people not to post their opinions because they’re “worthless,” to you if they’re pro sprint.

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> > Sprint is only a mechanic that’s subject to any decision the developers make of it.
> > Just like:
> > -Custom global loadouts
> > -Bloom
> > -Armor Abilities
> > -Dual Wielding
> > -Grenade Indicators
> > -Flinch
> > -Personal Ordnance
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> You are ok, but if Halo 6 has not sprint, 343i must remake the entire gameplay, and that means a big change once again, like Halo 4,

They should have just stuck with what was already good and never tried to change Halo.

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> > > > > > > 500 pages in, over 10 000 posts, and you have a theory about it, when there are posts about why it’s disliked, and have been since its inclusion in Reach.
> > > > > > > What a mystery.
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> > If they want to make some claim about why sprint is better or why no sprint is worse, then they should back it up. If they don’t like that, then they shouldn’t post.
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> > Just learn to read polls man. That’s on you, I can’t help you there. I don’t know why you keep bringing it up.
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> No you can’t defend yourself here you have NO RIGHT to tell someone they shouldn’t post.
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> And you know perfectly well why I’m bringing up the polls - you want to use polls to defend your anti sprint opinion but NO ONE in those polls you use now were required to back up their opinions on sprint. Under your logic you shouldn’t ever reference a poll again because they don’t have to back up their opinions to vote in those polls.

No right? I just did, look at that. You’re free to not post to btw. This topic seems to be bothering you, so maybe it’s for the best.

You’re the one that brought up polls. You have yourself to blame for being in the position you’re in. I don’t need polls to make my point, I’m actually capable of laying out an argument on how sprint affects the game and why it’s for the worse.

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> > > > > Yeah, I don’t want to see sprint removed either… But at the same time I feel we have to respect OP’s right to say how they feel about sprint too. I do personally feel this thread has been unnaturally kept alive and propelled by some of the anti-sprinters who came after OP, but at least the monitors helped re-shape this into a neutral topic.
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> > > > Yeah, it was dead for a week or 2, and then SOMEONE had to revive it. I am glad the title is more neutral now though.
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> > > > I did just reread the OP’s post though and it makes NO sense. No sprint in campaign!? That is the one place where sprint makes the most sense and is the most useful for EVERYONE involved. If I had a dime for every time I wished I had sprint on the Ark, the Covenant, Halo, the Library, and ESPECIALLY Mombasa streets, (I think you get the point) I’d be a rich man.
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> > > It was never dead, it just wasn’t pinned, there are quite a few more things going on on this site then just a few pinned threads.
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> > I have yet to see monitors pin a bias thread… The monitors can choose to pin whatever they want, I’m just saying I personally only see neutral threads get selected to be pinned.
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> No, they can’t. It’s determined by posts and views, the mods don’t chose to pin anything. They can sticky threads, but can’t pin them to the most popular list.

In that case- “Sticky,” was what I thought you were referring to- I must have misunderstand what you were trying to say there. I’m pretty sure people used to call that “pinning,” a thread a long time ago, but perhaps I’m mistaken… I don’t honestly have an intricate understanding as to what are all the administrative tools that the monitors have at their disposal. Maybe some of it’s just magic! :wink: