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> > > > > > > > > > Those animations didn’t even make it out of the alpha. In the behind the scenes video that I watched, it was explained that Bungie always started with the story, and then designed the rest of the game around it. As for what that means with regard to the existence of sprint animations, I guess it’s up to you to infer what that means. Who knows, maybe it had something to do with hardware limitations, and the possible implementation of sprint would’ve been so limited that it was deemed an unnecessary use of resources. But then, there’s Occam’s Razor.
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> > > > > > > > > Could you link this video to me? Because quite honestly, I’ve read the exact opposite. If I recall correctly it was in an interview with german magazine “Gamestar” from april 2000, where they said: “… denn die Kampagne für den Einzelspielermodus wird nach alter Bungie Tradition erst zum schluss festgelegt”, roughly translated “…because, according to old Bungie-tradition, the campaign for single player is only established in the end.”
> > > > > > > > > Unfortunately all scans of this interview are down, and I only found one guy quoting this text passage in a forums. If need be, I could try and find the magazine myself (if I even own it), but that might take a while, as all my old stuff is in my parent’s house.
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> > > > > > > > Upon watching it again, I’ve decided that I might’ve misinterpreted the context. However, is it reasonable to assume that sprint wasn’t necessary for Halo 2’s story? Why didn’t Bungie’s documentary mention sprint? Sprint has effected the art and design of Halo 5, so there has to be some reason as to why it was scrapped so early on in Halo 2’s development. The main two that come to mind, for me, are:
> > > > > > > > 1.) Hardware limitations, this could be anything from the amount of potential scripts that need to be ran, to rendering issues.
> > > > > > > > 2.) It altered the gameplay, which wasn’t what Bungie wanted, for one reason or another.
> > > > > > > > There are other possibilities, e.g. story telling, level design, the design of the music, etc.; however, the two that I listed above seem like the most likely explanations, IMO.
> > > > > > > > Anyway, if what you say is true, then that means that multiplayer was designed before the campaign, right? If that’s the case, then sprint being cut in the alpha is–interesting. Maybe it provided too many challenges to Halo 2’s development, I’m not sure how they would change the core gameplay without having to change other aspects of the game as well. Maybe it was just an idea that was only entertained and then put away. As for it resurfacing, and being a reality, in Reach, that’s another point that deserves further discussion.
> > > > > > > > I also found this to be really interesting.
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> > > > > > > Concepts are tested and scrapped all time. They can’t all be winners, so when they’re not they get cut. There’s no reason to bring up a mechanic that didn’t even make it past the testing phase. A Halo 2 animator said as far as he could recall it didn’t even come up during development in Halo 3, so they hadn’t even tried to test it. If it was something they were forced to cut in Halo 2 for reasons other than gameplay, I’d imagine they very likely would’ve tried it out again. Obviously, with Halo 2 they didn’t realize how much time they needed, so they would’ve been more prepared during Halo 3’s development in that sense.
> > > > > > > At best, even if it didn’t cause gameplay problems, it would still suggest that it didn’t benefit the game enough to include.
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> > > > > > at best? Maybe yeah, but you would have to define such a benefit to the game. If it was included later was that then a benefit to the game?
> > > > > > After the success of halo 2 and the failures of halo 2 do you think bumgie was really looking to revolutionize their game? The exclusion of a spint mechanic could have been from continued creative pressures to finish the product fully and on time. Equipment were little more than new weapons and new weapons are par for the development cycle, whereas the inclusion of sprint would have meant a lot of work with animations at the least, and hours of testing elsewhere. Its exclusion might have benefitted the game by giving them the time to finish.
> > > > > > With Reach, Bungie was more free to do what they wanted. Doesn’t that suggest sprint was something they might have wanted to do, but were under too much pressure to fully realize it?
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> > > > > I touched on the possibility of pressure to release Halo 2 in that post. As far as I know, Halo 3’s development didn’t suffer from huge cuts or change of plans as we all know Halo 2 did. That was likely because they were better prepared in terms of getting things done on time. Had sprint been something they really wanted to include since Halo 2, they probably would have tested it right away at thestart of Halo 3s development.
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> > > > > I’m not sure why you say Bungie was any more “free to do what they wanted” with Reach than with Halo 3. It took the same amount of time and was arguably a larger game all around. Did they say there was less pressure with Reach?
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> Bungie was usually smart enough to not include things for the sake of it. Sprint is in Destiny because it works in Destiny. Just because Bungie - or most devs - “want” to do something, that doesn’t mean it’s always for the best. Plenty of things sound good on paper, but not in practice, sprint being one of them.
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> Your reluctance of trusting Bungie (ex) employees still screams denial to me. Acting as if humans are incapable of remembering things after a long period of time if its not documented. Sure…
The individual in question was Art Director right? Without knowing how involved the Art Director was in the removal of sprint is a big factor in this. It doesn’t seem likely that he would remember correctly or even fully the reasons for why it was cut. This is why we have “pacing issues” rather than a detailed explanation.
If the decision was more closely his, then perhaps we could move forward. This isn’t about being incapable of remembering things, its about the nature of memory. It isn’t perfect. I can still recall my friends phone number from 6th grade… but I don’t recall a lot of other things- details about events or specific reasons for decisions that I was only tangentially associated. I don’t deny anything, I just don’t trust the information out there.