The sprint discussion thread

Mmmm quien va a leer todo eso?

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> Why do you think they added sprint in the first place? People got sick always walking and they knew a futuristic Spartan would have sprint! Saying that without sprint it would make the game better? And sell more copies? Here let’s look at Johnny asking his mom for Halo 6 “mom there’s this really cool game called halo 6 and I want it because there’s no sprint” How stupid does that flipping sound? This topic is garbage

I know plenty of people that would say just that.

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> Mmmm quien va a leer todo eso?

Yo

Just remove the Spartan Charge :rage:

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> Just remove the Spartan Charge :rage:

Why though. And why not sprint, as well.

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Sprint. Spartan Charge and Thrusting need to all be removed

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I agree. You need a comma though.

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Lol my bad

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oh yes…but they wont…343 is to stubborn…oh did i say stubborn? i meant stup…actually nvm…dont wanna get banned now

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hehehe

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> > > > > > > > OP your comment is null and void.
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> > > > > > > > Sprint is awesome!
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> > > > > > > > Go back to Master -Yoink- edition and see how fricking slow the original games are. No thanks!
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> > > > > > > Slow? That awkward moment you realise that CE is faster than H5…
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> > > > > > … well… it can feel slow. kills were quick, yes. but the sensation of movement was very sluggish. not bad, just slow. Sprint definitely adds to the frenetic feel of the game. It makes movement feel immediate and urgent. Those are extremely fun for a good number of people. I would love to see a sprint mechanic inserted into all the old halo campaigns. It would make the roleplaying aspects even better.
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> > > > > This is true. But we must agree on that sprint makes the game slower. Do you understand what sprint is? When you sprint in H5 you are running with the speed of halos 1-3 base movement speed. Which means that when you are not sprinting you are going slower than in H 1-3. So if we took out sprint you would be going sprint speed with base movement speed. Isn’t it fun going sprint speed all the time? Sprint is an animation. Here is a list I’ll now put out for the forth time:
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> > > > > So here are ways that sprint effects the gameplay, after I’ve gone through them I will explain how they hurt the gameplay.
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> > > > > - People get away with bad positioning. This means that good positioning becomes less rewarding.
> > > > > - Sprint encourages double melees or spartan charges in H5. This is a very skill-less kill, especially if the other person is better at shooting.
> > > > > - It brakes map flow. In Reach we had sprint in the MLG playlist for the 2011-year. We also had a 1:1 remake of sanctuary. Sanctuary is a legendary H2 map. So what we noticed, was that the best players were no longer afraid to cross the yard to the enemy snipe-hut, but they were in H2. Why? Because you could cross the yard so fast. But in H2 if someone saw you in yard, you were dead. The same was true for bridge and carbine. People didn’t think if they should cross them or not, because you could do it so fast. So we made the maps bigger.
> > > > > So the big maps are bad because in combat the cover is thousand miles away. They have separated movement from combat and designed the maps around fast movement, but not for slow combat. And these maps are terrible! They don’t have a theme, they use verticality very poorly, have no powerful power positions and have no way to predict Flow. The pathing is terrible. But Obi you ask: Why is this a bad thing? Because it takes skill out of flow prediction. Why are double melees/charges bad? Because they make shooting less rewarding and shooting takes skill. Why is “getting away with bad positioning” a bad thing? Because it makes good positioning less rewarding and good positioning takes skill.So sprint takes a lot of skill out of the game. Why is that a bad thing? Because when kills are easy to get and you’re throwing a dice on how many kills you get, then they are no longer fun to get. And it’s not like those games shouldn’t exist, but we have CoD. That games all about spinning a dice for kills.Look at Halo: CE. Everything in that game takes skill. The pistol is hard to use, the sniper is hard to use, the Ar is hard to use, grenade jumps are hard to do, double melees are hard to do, giving your team-mate a random spawn is hard to plan for, not spawn -yoinking- your team-mate is hard to do, pinning people down to spawn kill their team-mate is hard to do, grenading weapons is hard to do, grenading power ups is hard to do. Everything in CE takes skill, but look at H2. Sniper is easy to use, so is the Br, power weapons are on dynamic timers, the the melee system is easy. The whole thing was mess. Now in H5 it’s gotten worse. All this stuff that’s in the game is easy and everyone can do them. Sniper is easy, dmr, Br and pistol are easy, clamber is easy, thruster pack is easy, sprinting is easy and they patched out one of the three things that took skill in this game in fast falls. So no, I don’t think sprint should be in the game.
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> > > > wait… sprinting is the same as base movement of h1-3 but in reach it made you faster than h2 so Sanctuary played differently… hence h5 sprinting sucks?
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> > > > these are map design issues, or weapon issues, or spawn system issues… not necessarily sprinting issues.
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> > > Adapt sprint to make a better halo game, or Adapt all of the other traits of a halo game so sprint? Decisions Decisions.
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> Good map design could make up for not having sprint but Halo 5’s maps are trash. Bungie established the Golden triangle of making a Halo game, and that is Shooting Melee and Grenades but sprint breakes this formula YOU CAN’T SHOOT WHILE SPRINTING YOU CAN’T MELEE WHILE SPRINTING AND YOU CANT THROW GRENADES and sure you might say ‘‘but spartan charge counts as a melee attack’’ it really dosen’t It’s too straight and ineffective look I could just sidestep or thruster out of the way and kill you with an SMG rendering your spartan charge ineffective.

sounds like nonsense to me. You state a fact (kinda) and then claim that Sprint breaks the golden triangle. 1. You havent estanblished what “breaking” is. Youre using the word to make things sound dire because (2.) it has no where that I’ve found been shown that a breach of the golden triangle philosophy is itself bad. And then 3. you try to define spartan charge as not melee to stay consistent… because you can dodge it? Are bullets not ranged because you can dodge them?

Nice attempt at establishing your opinion as objective fact.

say it will make halo halo again is wrong as halo was ment to have sprint since halo 2 (halo 2 sprint )

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> say it will make halo halo again is wrong as halo was ment to have sprint since halo 2 (halo 2 sprint )

False. They tested it and it ruined the pacing so they decided against adding it. If anything, that only supports the no sprint argument.

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Spartan charge I agree with the reast no having the Spartan ability’s make you feel like a Spartan, not having sprint makes the game feel slow and boring like tennis and how will halo grow when it is like tennis and 343 listen just look at the new reqs in the next update

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> say it will make halo halo again is wrong as halo was ment to have sprint since halo 2 (halo 2 sprint )

Just like the BR while scoped was supposed to be a single shot. These were removed for a reason. Halo 2 sprint didn’t even make it out of pre-Alpha testing. Halo 2’s Single Shot BR at least made it to Beta testing and was even featured in Halo 2’s tech demo.

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> > say it will make halo halo again is wrong as halo was ment to have sprint since halo 2 (halo 2 sprint )
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wrong it means bugie always want sprint in halo and they tried there best with in halo reach and 343 have greatly improved it

Having sprint in a Halo game doesn’t ruin Halo. Just because a mechanic got added into the game doesn’t mean it changes what is Halo. Really, sprint is a nice feature to have. Yeah, I don’t use it constantly, but I use it when I feel the need for it. Really, you should be thinking about how 343 is trying to add newer things to Halo to make a great game even better. Yes, sometimes they’re not exactly on point with some features, but that’s why our feedback is important. If you seriously feel like a small mechanic like sprint breaks a games, what about something like assassinations? Or some of the other mechanics that was introduced in Halo: Reach, Halo 4, and Halo 5?

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> > > say it will make halo halo again is wrong as halo was ment to have sprint since halo 2 (halo 2 sprint )
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> wrong it means bugie always want sprint in halo and they tried there best with in halo reach and 343 have greatly improved it

No, that’s still false. Thanks for helping the anti-sprint argument though.

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> > > say it will make halo halo again is wrong as halo was ment to have sprint since halo 2 (halo 2 sprint )
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> wrong it means bugie always want sprint in halo and they tried there best with in halo reach and 343 have greatly improved it

No, they tested the idea and found out that it wasn’t a good fit for the series. 343 has nerfed the crap out of it, and now it has so many disadvantages to question why is it even in the game.

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No information of it ever being tested for Halo 3 or even ODST, unlike Halo 2’s tests.