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> Halo is still Halo.
Halo with modern modifications though.
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> > > > > > > > > > Honestly, I didn’t know that sprint was this big of a deal. Hasn’t really changed gameplay for me that much. I feel shippers of both sides might be over thinking this a little.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
> > >
> > >
> > > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
> >
> >
> > I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
> >
> > It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.
>
>
> How do you figure that? In my post I said the 11% was those who strongly dislike sprint. 343 said the same. If anything your the one reading between the lines. Sure, they don’t post the all around numbers of people neutral or that kinda like or dislike sprint. But to make up any type of numbers to try imply the amount of people that make up these other percentages of participants and/or the reasons why they weren’t made public is in its self waisted breath, or in this case waisted text. Thats becase you or I can/will never get these facts or knowledge to post them. If we do post something, other than if it were to come from 343, its just numbers or reasons we’ve made up. The only actual facts here are what 343 posted…and that is that 11% of the 19,000 people that participated in that user feedback poll strongly disliked sprint.
>
> Now I’m going to assume something here. If I had to guess, which I’m doing, I’d say 343 only posted the results of people that strongly dislike sprint, the 11%, because they must feel that is the very vocal minority and, they would be the ones that were going to complain about sprint being in H5.
>
> How many anti sprinters in this thread are the “strongly dislike sprint” type do you think?
I remember voting in this topic and i remember thinking to myself my vote isn’t going to mean anything. because even though the H5 beta was super early its not in a stage where they were deciding whether or not to implement sprint, that was decided long ago when they had begun making the multiplayer maps and maybe even earlier when designing the campaign. I voted on a simple dislike,I don’t hate sprint and frankly H5 without sprint would be horrible simply because of the map design. sprint is part of battlefield and i need it to get across the massive maps, sprint is part of cod because of the run and gun twitch gameplay. however when you change the way you make maps simply to add sprint you make a decision to change the way a game played previously. you make it so that if people want classic maps to return you can’t just upscale the graphics but upscale the size as well. this breaks some maps because where there was no cover in previous games there has to be cover now simply because of the space you have. an elbow in lockout wouldn’t work without tons of cover, a mid in guardians/lockout wouldn’t work (you thought you were exposed before sprint, make mid 2X the size you have a no mans land)
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> > > People are so heavily blinded by their nostalgia for the old games and their anger at modern game mechanics making their way into Halo that they refuse to see that they’re doing the exact same things that they’ve been doing in the previous Halos, albeit with an expanded set of abilities.
> > > Everyone starts with the same guns, everyone starts with the same abilities, and they’re asked to use them to control the map and the weapons that spawn on it. That hasn’t changed. Stop acting like doomsayers proclaiming that Halo is dead with addition of one little mechanic.
> >
> >
> > No, im not doing the same things.
> >
> > In the trilogy I could traverse the map while engaging in combat. Now, I can’t.
> >
> > “Stop shooting. Look directly at where I want to go. Begin sprinting. Jump. Keeping looking directly where im going. No shooting allowed. Thrust. Look directly where im going. Don’t even think about engaging in combat. Mantle. Ok, now I can engage in combat. Shoot. Turn. Look directly at where I want to go. Sprint…”
> >
> > Sooooooooo fun
> >
> > In past Halo games I could be moving sideways towards my destination while shooting someone in front of me. Then I could jump backwards onto a ledge, while shooting someone. Then jump sideways onto something WHILE SHOOTING SOMEONE AND NOT LOOKING DIRECTLY WHERE IM GOING.
> >
> > ^THAT is Halo.
>
>
> News flash. YOU CAN STILL DO THAT.
No you cannot because most map traversal in this game requires some kind of combination of sprint jumping, thrust, and mantling.
343 fan boys will defend sprint until 343 comes out and says they are removing it. Once that happens all the fanboys will suddenly agree that sprint is terrible
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> > > People are so heavily blinded by their nostalgia for the old games and their anger at modern game mechanics making their way into Halo that they refuse to see that they’re doing the exact same things that they’ve been doing in the previous Halos, albeit with an expanded set of abilities.
> > > Everyone starts with the same guns, everyone starts with the same abilities, and they’re asked to use them to control the map and the weapons that spawn on it. That hasn’t changed. Stop acting like doomsayers proclaiming that Halo is dead with addition of one little mechanic.
> >
> >
> > No, im not doing the same things.
> >
> > In the trilogy I could traverse the map while engaging in combat. Now, I can’t.
> >
> > “Stop shooting. Look directly at where I want to go. Begin sprinting. Jump. Keeping looking directly where im going. No shooting allowed. Thrust. Look directly where im going. Don’t even think about engaging in combat. Mantle. Ok, now I can engage in combat. Shoot. Turn. Look directly at where I want to go. Sprint…”
> >
> > Sooooooooo fun
> >
> > In past Halo games I could be moving sideways towards my destination while shooting someone in front of me. Then I could jump backwards onto a ledge, while shooting someone. Then jump sideways onto something WHILE SHOOTING SOMEONE AND NOT LOOKING DIRECTLY WHERE IM GOING.
> >
> > ^THAT is Halo.
>
>
> Don’t kid yourself. You make it sound like every time you saw another player in previous Halos it turned into some elegant coordinated ballet of crouch-jumping with a litany of platforming when in reality most fights were just strafing from left to right trying to dodge your enemy’s BR or Magnum shots.
Not every time but often enough to really add to the game. Plus this stuff didn’t just take place in 1v1 fights. Map traversal in conjunction with teamshooting was constant.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Honestly, I didn’t know that sprint was this big of a deal. Hasn’t really changed gameplay for me that much. I feel shippers of both sides might be over thinking this a little.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > > > > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
> > > >
> > > > It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.
> > >
> > >
> > > How do you figure that? In my post I said the 11% was those who strongly dislike sprint. 343 said the same. If anything your the one reading between the lines. Sure, they don’t post the all around numbers of people neutral or that kinda like or dislike sprint. But to make up any type of numbers to try imply the amount of people that make up these other percentages of participants and/or the reasons why they weren’t made public is in its self waisted breath, or in this case waisted text. Thats becase you or I can/will never get these facts or knowledge to post them. If we do post something, other than if it were to come from 343, its just numbers or reasons we’ve made up. The only actual facts here are what 343 posted…and that is that 11% of the 19,000 people that participated in that user feedback poll strongly disliked sprint.
> > >
> > > Now I’m going to assume something here. If I had to guess, which I’m doing, I’d say 343 only posted the results of people that strongly dislike sprint, the 11%, because they must feel that is the very vocal minority and, they would be the ones that were going to complain about sprint being in H5.
> > >
> > > How many anti sprinters in this thread are the “strongly dislike sprint” type do you think?
> >
> >
> > omg that poll lol.
> >
> > They posted a poll on their own website lol. Most people who are against sprint in Halo are not still coming to the website of the game that has had sprint in it for a decade.
>
>
> What are you talking about? The poll was never posted on their web site. Just the results were. The poll was done through a 3rd party entity, (similar to how car companies have polls done when you buy a new vehicle.).
Advertisement for the program was posted primarily on Waypoint.
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > > > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > > > > > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
> > > > >
> > > > > It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How do you figure that? In my post I said the 11% was those who strongly dislike sprint. 343 said the same. If anything your the one reading between the lines. Sure, they don’t post the all around numbers of people neutral or that kinda like or dislike sprint. But to make up any type of numbers to try imply the amount of people that make up these other percentages of participants and/or the reasons why they weren’t made public is in its self waisted breath, or in this case waisted text. Thats becase you or I can/will never get these facts or knowledge to post them. If we do post something, other than if it were to come from 343, its just numbers or reasons we’ve made up. The only actual facts here are what 343 posted…and that is that 11% of the 19,000 people that participated in that user feedback poll strongly disliked sprint.
> > > >
> > > > Now I’m going to assume something here. If I had to guess, which I’m doing, I’d say 343 only posted the results of people that strongly dislike sprint, the 11%, because they must feel that is the very vocal minority and, they would be the ones that were going to complain about sprint being in H5.
> > > >
> > > > How many anti sprinters in this thread are the “strongly dislike sprint” type do you think?
> > >
> > >
> > > omg that poll lol.
> > >
> > > They posted a poll on their own website lol. Most people who are against sprint in Halo are not still coming to the website of the game that has had sprint in it for a decade.
> >
> >
> > What are you talking about? The poll was never posted on their web site. Just the results were. The poll was done through a 3rd party entity, (similar to how car companies have polls done when you buy a new vehicle.).
>
>
> Advertisement for the program was posted primarily on Waypoint.
When was this? I don’t remember them posting it.
Sprint can stay, Spartan charge can get the -Yoink- out of halo
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> > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> >
> >
> > Except the maps are purposefully stretched out to accompany sprint, so that stretched maps will have the same sprint travel time as a non stretched map with just walking. So
> > not sprinting is punishing because the game had to be made around it.
>
>
> not true, the only time you NEED, to sprint, is if you are trying to break a wall in warzone. i have stopped sprinting completely and do just fine.
>
> sprint should stay, spartan charge is what needs to leave.
>
> not having sprint is not what made halo, halo. the BR, needler, floaty jumps, and spartans, made halo, halo. sprint alone does not make or break halo, the people who can’t get over it, are what breaks halo.
Actually you can melee it twice and it will break
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> When was this? I don’t remember them posting it…
Enlistment for the program was up for awhile in one of the WP sections, but I don’t remember which one though. I know they mentioned it in their community updates in the past.
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
> > >
> > >
> > > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
> >
> >
> > I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
> >
> > It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.
>
>
> How do you figure that? In my post I said the 11% was those who strongly dislike sprint. 343 said the same. If anything your the one reading between the lines. Sure, they don’t post the all around numbers of people neutral or that kinda like or dislike sprint. But to make up any type of numbers to try imply the amount of people that make up these other percentages of participants and/or the reasons why they weren’t made public is in its self waisted breath, or in this case waisted text. Thats becase you or I can/will never get these facts or knowledge to post them. If we do post something, other than if it were to come from 343, its just numbers or reasons we’ve made up. The only actual facts here are what 343 posted…and that is that 11% of the 19,000 people that participated in that user feedback poll strongly disliked sprint.
>
> Now I’m going to assume something here. If I had to guess, which I’m doing, I’d say 343 only posted the results of people that strongly dislike sprint, the 11%, because they must feel that is the very vocal minority and, they would be the ones that were going to complain about sprint being in H5.
>
> How many anti sprinters in this thread are the “strongly dislike sprint” type do you think?
You’re acting like the results that they shared is proof that anti-sprinters are vastly outnumbered, but the results didn’t even include everyone who was against sprint. At best, that poll doesn’t tell us anything one way or another. It just told us some people don’t like sprint. Duh, of course. But that information means nothing when it’s not counting the entire group that dislikes sprint (of the people that participated in the poll of course) and when there’s no numbers to reflect the opposite opinion.
343 worded things very specifically to misguide us. It’s something they do alot and that was just another case of it. Another half truth.
Sprint has been in the series now for six years. It’s time to innovate the series with something new, like the removal of sprint.
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> > When was this? I don’t remember them posting it…
>
>
> Enlistment for the program was up for awhile in one of the WP sections, but I don’t remember which one though. I know they mentioned it in their community updates in the past.
Well I found the community program and I think I’m signed up a year ago.
No thanks. I like sprint the way it is.
Keep sprint! Bring back Local Co-Op
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This discuss makes me tired, i’m going to bed…
WELCOME TO HALO 6 LOL , 343 NO TAKE YOUR OPINION
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> 343 fan boys will defend sprint until 343 comes out and says they are removing it. Once that happens all the fanboys will suddenly agree that sprint is terrible
That’s bullshiiieett Dude.
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> > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
> >
> >
> > Except the maps are purposefully stretched out to accompany sprint, so that stretched maps will have the same sprint travel time as a non stretched map with just walking. So
> > not sprinting is punishing because the game had to be made around it.
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> not true, the only time you NEED, to sprint, is if you are trying to break a wall in warzone. i have stopped sprinting completely and do just fine.
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> sprint should stay, spartan charge is what needs to leave.
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> not having sprint is not what made halo, halo. the BR, needler, floaty jumps, and spartans, made halo, halo. sprint alone does not make or break halo, the people who can’t get over it, are what breaks halo.
I completely agree, I love Sprint and Clamber for the accessibility options. Without Sprint how can we (Sprint - Crouch - Jump - Thruster Pack)? But I could see sprint reworked into older Halo maps. At the time, Sprint wasn’t as “essential” for the mainstream FPS gamer, now its a generic mechanic most people expect to be there. Like getatme94 says "the people that can’t get over it, are what breaks halo.
And make it rated M again not this T crap no blood no cursing