The sprint discussion thread

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> Forget it. It’s never going away. Sprint has never detracted from the gameplay in any way, and I don’t understand why people continue to complain about it.
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> The only problem with Sprint in Halo 5 is the reduced motion tracker range, which makes it all too easy for sprinters to catch you off-guard; especially with the addition of Spartan Charge. They bring the motion tracker range back up 25m at least, and that problem is solved.

I can actually find a way it detracts from gameplay. from the back of P2 to mid on the map truth it takes about 4.5 seconds sprinting. meanwhile from the back of p2 on midship/Heretic in H2/H3 it takes the same amount of time without sprinting. this means I can fire my gun where I wouldn’t in H5, and it also show how much bigger the H5 maps are to their H2/H3 counter parts. sprint is an illusion of speed that’s how I see it. you aren’t getting anywhere any faster than you would in the previous halo games, in fact base speed has just been place in a confusing position where when you’re in between cover you’re essentially a sitting duck.

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> > I don’t remember the exact phrasing but I know for a fact the question wasn’t even “do you like sprint”, it was something along the lines of “do you like to use sprint in Halo”?
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> > It’s still by far the most unbiased poll created though.
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> I would argue that most if not all community polls on waypoint are less biased than the community feedback program. At least those have no restrictions for participants. I have already mentioned this in the past, but 343 themselves selects the participants behind the scenes based on some unknown criteria. People got rejected from signing up because of bogus made-up reasons, and even those who participate are not guaranteed to be included in the actual polls. I’m a member for a year-ish and I still haven’t received a single survey…

I’ve been a member since the beginng and have participated in every poll they’ve sent out. My brother is also a member, since the the begining too, and he gets every poll I get. We haven’t experienced an instance were one of us has gotten a poll and the other hasn’t.

When you sign up it tells you in the terms of condition the criteria you must meet in order to be a member. It’s not like it’s a secret. Some of the things I remember are,
Must be at least 18
Must have an ACTIVE gold account
Must be a US citizen

I know you must give your full name and address too. I’m assuming this here, but I think that’s so they can cross match name and address with credit card and gold account so they can filter out people trying to apply with multiple accounts.

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> > > I don’t remember the exact phrasing but I know for a fact the question wasn’t even “do you like sprint”, it was something along the lines of “do you like to use sprint in Halo”?
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> > > It’s still by far the most unbiased poll created though.
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> > I would argue that most if not all community polls on waypoint are less biased than the community feedback program. At least those have no restrictions for participants. I have already mentioned this in the past, but 343 themselves selects the participants behind the scenes based on some unknown criteria. People got rejected from signing up because of bogus made-up reasons, and even those who participate are not guaranteed to be included in the actual polls. I’m a member for a year-ish and I still haven’t received a single survey…
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> I didn’t even know there was a survey until after the update with some of the results. It certainly seemed weird that the only sprint poll on the internet where sprint won was the one poll whose results weren’t publicly available to see. Don’t know why they can’t make it easier for people to partake in it.

It’s almost as if they cherry picked not only their results considering there were five options in the poll but almost like they also cherry picked who was notified about it. Amazing

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> > No Sprint= less gamers and Halo dying even more.
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> So far any Halo with sprint is dying faster than Halo’s that come with no sprint.

That doesn’t mean sprint is killing halo

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> > Alright, removing sprint from halo is the dumbest idea and will not make halo how it was before. Yes it is true that everyone was pissed about sprint in reach but every shooter had evolved to become more fast paced and incorparted into EVERY SHOOTER thst existed after halo 3. Halo is very slow paced compared to other shooters like COD or Titanfall and removing sprint will just make halo boring and hard to get to the other side of the warzone.
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> So Sprint is necessary / needed to make shooters more fast paced?
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> Quake and Unreal slow?
> Nu-Doom slow?
> Nu-UT slow?
> Overwatch slow?
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> Every other shooter had it after Halo 3?
> Have you gamed at all?

If they buffed the base speed to that of those games, I’d be fine without sprint. Halo has always had one slow -Yoink- move speed and that’s why I wanted sprint from the start. In those games, you’re basically running at base speed (and in Halo, you’ve been “walking”). The new DOOM has a real good looking movement speed, how about that (Overwatch’s may be a bit to fast).

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> > > No Sprint= less gamers and Halo dying even more.
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> > So far any Halo with sprint is dying faster than Halo’s that come with no sprint.
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Sprint is balanced now and all Halo needs is fix stuff like Motion tracker maps, Campaign, and the Req system.

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> > > I don’t remember the exact phrasing but I know for a fact the question wasn’t even “do you like sprint”, it was something along the lines of “do you like to use sprint in Halo”?
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> > > It’s still by far the most unbiased poll created though.
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> >
> > I would argue that most if not all community polls on waypoint are less biased than the community feedback program. At least those have no restrictions for participants. I have already mentioned this in the past, but 343 themselves selects the participants behind the scenes based on some unknown criteria. People got rejected from signing up because of bogus made-up reasons, and even those who participate are not guaranteed to be included in the actual polls. I’m a member for a year-ish and I still haven’t received a single survey…
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> I’ve been a member since the beginng and have participated in every poll they’ve sent out. My brother is also a member, since the the begining too, and he gets every poll I get. We haven’t experienced an instance were one of us has gotten a poll and the other hasn’t.
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> When you sign up it tells you in the terms of condition the criteria you must meet in order to be a member. It’s not like it’s a secret. Some of the things I remember are,
> Must be at least 18
> Must have an ACTIVE gold account
> Must be a US citizen
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> I know you must give your full name and address too. I’m assuming this here, but I think that’s so they can cross match name and address with credit card and gold account so they can filter out people trying to apply with multiple accounts.

I know of people living in the same town, people that play splitscreen together several times a week, where one of them was rejected due to “regional restrictions”…
Sorry, but I’m not buying the validity of these surveys for one second.

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> > > > > > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > > > > to that end, what does sprint really take away?
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> > > > The melding of movement and combat.
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> > > > No biggie. It’s only the central pillar upon which all halo gameplay was built.
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> > > Don’t forget map variation. Sprint requires a very specific set of rules to work well. That’s why all of the maps in Halo 5 are so similar and lack the scaling that previous games in the series had. Also vehicles. Remember back in the day where you could occasionally find Mongooses or Warthogs or Ghosts on 4v4 maps? That’s gone. And lastly, alternative movements options like teleporters and man cannons. Maps like Last Resort or Battle Canyon can’t exist with Sprint. It breaks them.
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> > This might be the ONLY well thought out argument I’ve seen in this thread against sprint. It’s the only one I’ve read that really made me think “hm. This person has a point”.
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> > im still “pro-sprint”, but you sir have at least made a good point against it.
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> You seem like a generally open minded person, I’m curious, (and I’m not trying to start an argument here) why are you pro-sprint?

I am open minded, and I always do my best to see things from both sides, and the point you made was really the only one that hit me. Most of the other ones I read seemed more like “sprint needs to be put because it’s just not halo!”, which does nothing to make their case.

I am pro-sprint for a number of reasons:

The game is generally more fun to me having two different speeds to move around in. It helps in making certain jumps, it has also brought about the slide, which i also enjoy. Then with those two combined with the thrusters and a jump has made the “slide boost” possible. That move alone has become such a huge part of my game play in getting around the map and making my moves more unpredictable. (I could explain some examples if you’d like, but I’d rather not go deeper into that unless you want to.)

I am am very well aware that “faster gameplay” is not created by having Sprint in the game. Trust me, I get the concept. Truth is much bigger than midship and sprinting across truth will not get you there faster than the regular movement speed across midship in H2. I am not pro sprint because i think it makes it faster.

It adds an extra little “adrenaline rush” or excitement in some situations that make the game more fun for me, for instance, racing for a power weapon or power up that just spawned and you know that the enemy is going to be trying the same thing. I talked about this before, that I Only use sprint in certain situations, and since you sacrifice your ability to shoot while you sprint, those situations in which I use it become rather tense (which is fun for me). It kinda becomes one of those “grit your teeth and hope for the best” scenarios (which is why sprint should be something you use only when you need it, anyway haha).

I know that even without sprint, halo has plenty excitement and adrenaline rush situations, but sprint just adds more of it in more situations, in my opinion.

Overall, I think it just adds more to the game and has to make you think more about what your opponent might do, and in turn what you are going to do. When playing against other high level players it is used very wisely and doesn’t result in everyone sprinting aimlessly and Spartan charging around like hooligans.

I could say a lot more and give more detail on certain things but I will start by sayin what I’ve said, and seeing where it goes from there. :slight_smile:

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I guess when it comes down to it, I like the whole “If you want to move from point A to point B faster than normal, you have to sacrifice your ability to shoot and recharge your shield” dynamic, more so than going the same speed everywhere I go. (Again I know that it doesn’t not constitute faster overall gameplay vs the older games, so don’t take it as me saying that)

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> > Forget it. It’s never going away. Sprint has never detracted from the gameplay in any way, and I don’t understand why people continue to complain about it.
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> I can actually find a way it detracts from gameplay. from the back of P2 to mid on the map truth it takes about 4.5 seconds sprinting. meanwhile from the back of p2 on midship/Heretic in H2/H3 it takes the same amount of time without sprinting. this means I can fire my gun where I wouldn’t in H5, and it also show how much bigger the H5 maps are to their H2/H3 counter parts. sprint is an illusion of speed that’s how I see it. you aren’t getting anywhere any faster than you would in the previous halo games, in fact base speed has just been place in a confusing position where when you’re in between cover you’re essentially a sitting duck.

I keep on seeing this argument comparing that Halo 2 map. I never played classic Halo 2, but I watched a Play Pals episode of Halo 2 doubles, and the map looks pretty -Yoinking!- small. Too small for a 4v4. Truth is pretty -Yoink- compared to the Remix though, I mean, there’s no cover anywhere. (Truth is the remake of the Halo 2 one, right?)

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> > > Forget it. It’s never going away. Sprint has never detracted from the gameplay in any way, and I don’t understand why people continue to complain about it.
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> > > The only problem with Sprint in Halo 5 is the reduced motion tracker range, which makes it all too easy for sprinters to catch you off-guard; especially with the addition of Spartan Charge. They bring the motion tracker range back up 25m at least, and that problem is solved.
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> > I can actually find a way it detracts from gameplay. from the back of P2 to mid on the map truth it takes about 4.5 seconds sprinting. meanwhile from the back of p2 on midship/Heretic in H2/H3 it takes the same amount of time without sprinting. this means I can fire my gun where I wouldn’t in H5, and it also show how much bigger the H5 maps are to their H2/H3 counter parts. sprint is an illusion of speed that’s how I see it. you aren’t getting anywhere any faster than you would in the previous halo games, in fact base speed has just been place in a confusing position where when you’re in between cover you’re essentially a sitting duck.
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> I keep on seeing this argument comparing that Halo 2 map. I never played classic Halo 2, but I watched a Play Pals episode of Halo 2 doubles, and the map looks pretty -Yoinking!- small. Too small for a 4v4. Truth is pretty -Yoink- compared to the Remix though, I mean, there’s no cover anywhere. (Truth is the remake of the Halo 2 one, right?)

Truth is remake of Midship that been upsized for the Spartan Abilities and Sprint.

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I do think 343 needs to add a classic playlist (no-sprint and whatever other little changes the no-sprint crowd wants) with maps from H2/H3, but I wouldn’t play it and I’m a Halo veteran. I bought a xbox because of Halo CE. I also love the way Halo 5 MP is. I haven’t enjoyed Halo this much since Halo 3. I didn’t really like Reach or H4 MP and not because of sprint. All my old buddies who use to play H3 with me have all moved on to other shooters and not because of sprint. If they remove sprint from Halo 6, I hope 343 adds a playlist with the current Spartan abilities or I’m out. I would also like to add that I am not a big fan of Spartan charge. Oh and if Halo 6 does remove sprint and doesn’t do as well as the no-sprint crowd seems to think it’ll do then lets just drop this topic all together. If sprint and whatever else the no-sprint crowd doesn’t like is truly holding Halo back then it should explode in popularity with these changes, at least overtime. And add maps designed and approved by only the most seasoned Halo veterans, because we all know that the decline in Halo’s popularity has no other possible reasons more serious than sprint (sarcasm).

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> I do think 343 needs to add a classic playlist (no-sprint and whatever other little changes the no-sprint crowd wants) with maps from H2/H3, but I wouldn’t play it and I’m a Halo veteran. I bought a xbox because of Halo CE. I also love the way Halo 5 MP is. I haven’t enjoyed Halo this much since Halo 3. I didn’t really like Reach or H4 MP and not because of sprint. All my old buddies who use to play H3 with me have all moved on to other shooters and not because of sprint. If they remove sprint from Halo 6, I hope 343 adds a playlist with the current Spartan abilities or I’m out. I would also like to add that I am not a big fan of Spartan charge. Oh and if Halo 6 does remove sprint and doesn’t do as well as the no-sprint crowd seems to think it’ll do then lets just drop this topic all together. If sprint and whatever else the no-sprint crowd doesn’t like is truly holding Halo back then it should explode in popularity with these changes, at least overtime. And add maps designed and approved by only the most seasoned Halo veterans, because we all know that the decline in Halo’s popularity has no other possible reasons more serious than sprint (sarcasm).

I agree, we need to focus on more problems then sprint which not a big or a small problem.

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I’d keep sprint because if someone is shooting you, it’s a quick get away.

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> > > > > > > > > Honestly, I didn’t know that sprint was this big of a deal. Hasn’t really changed gameplay for me that much. I feel shippers of both sides might be over thinking this a little.
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> > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
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> > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
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> > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
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> > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
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> > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
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> > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
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> > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
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> I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
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> It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.

How do you figure that? In my post I said the 11% was those who strongly dislike sprint. 343 said the same. If anything your the one reading between the lines. Sure, they don’t post the all around numbers of people neutral or that kinda like or dislike sprint. But to make up any type of numbers to try imply the amount of people that make up these other percentages of participants and/or the reasons why they weren’t made public is in its self waisted breath, or in this case waisted text. Thats becase you or I can/will never get these facts or knowledge to post them. If we do post something, other than if it were to come from 343, its just numbers or reasons we’ve made up. The only actual facts here are what 343 posted…and that is that 11% of the 19,000 people that participated in that user feedback poll strongly disliked sprint.

Now I’m going to assume something here. If I had to guess, which I’m doing, I’d say 343 only posted the results of people that strongly dislike sprint, the 11%, because they must feel that is the very vocal minority and, they would be the ones that were going to complain about sprint being in H5.

How many anti sprinters in this thread are the “strongly dislike sprint” type do you think?

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Damn, this thread is hard to keep up with.

Why doesn’t waypoint have a notification system that shows when people respond to you so you don’t have to scroll through 10 pages to find your last reply? Every other forum on earth has that.

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Halo is still Halo.

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> > > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
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> > > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
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> > > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
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> > > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
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> > > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
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> > > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
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> > > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
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> > I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
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> > It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.
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> Yeah seriously. Also I’m a member of the feedback program and I received no notice of this poll until after it had already concluded. Why did they hide this poll?

This would decide when you signed up for the program. I signed up the first day 343 made it possible to do so. This poll was the first that was sent out as part of the user feedback program.

FYI, in case sombody asks, no one beside 343 knows the contents of the poll/s before they are released. Also, if anyone wants to sign up for the user feedback program you still can. I believe there a link to the sign up in the community section here on waypoint.

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> > > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
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> > > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
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> > > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
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> > > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
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> > > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
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> > > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
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> > > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
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> > I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
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> > It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.
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> How do you figure that? In my post I said the 11% was those who strongly dislike sprint. 343 said the same. If anything your the one reading between the lines. Sure, they don’t post the all around numbers of people neutral or that kinda like or dislike sprint. But to make up any type of numbers to try imply the amount of people that make up these other percentages of participants and/or the reasons why they weren’t made public is in its self waisted breath, or in this case waisted text. Thats becase you or I can/will never get these facts or knowledge to post them. If we do post something, other than if it were to come from 343, its just numbers or reasons we’ve made up. The only actual facts here are what 343 posted…and that is that 11% of the 19,000 people that participated in that user feedback poll strongly disliked sprint.
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> Now I’m going to assume something here. If I had to guess, which I’m doing, I’d say 343 only posted the results of people that strongly dislike sprint, the 11%, because they must feel that is the very vocal minority and, they would be the ones that were going to complain about sprint being in H5.
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> How many anti sprinters in this thread are the “strongly dislike sprint” type do you think?

omg that poll lol.

They posted a poll on their own website lol. Most people who are against sprint in Halo are not still coming to the website of the game that has had sprint in it for a decade.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Honestly, I didn’t know that sprint was this big of a deal. Hasn’t really changed gameplay for me that much. I feel shippers of both sides might be over thinking this a little.
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> > > > > > > > > > It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
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> > > > > > > > > I’m going to disregard how big of a fallacy this is and how it indicates that you have no real argument to make and point out that I have played more than 3 times as many games in Halo 5 as you have. So, I guess your posts are objectively worthless and you should just stop wasting everyone’s time.
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> > > > > > > > I didn’t mean to offend you so deeply; you aren’t one of the people I was talking about and I’m sure you’re very passionate about the game. The fact remains: you are the vocal minority.
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> > > > > > > No, we’re the vocal majority. Prove me wrong.
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> > > > > > The proof is in the link in this post I made to you last week. Scroll down and read the Spartan abilities section. There you will see the poll 343 did in the user feedback program were only 11% were strongly against sprint. I think 11% of 100% makes anti sprinters the minority.
> > > > > > Note: I believe it says something like 19,000 people participated in that poll.
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> > > > > This is great, thanks for sharing. 19,000 is probably the largest pool I’ve seen so far, and resoundingly positive results in favor of sprint.
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> > > > I know. It’s the best solid evidence on where the community stand as far as sprint or no sprint goes. Regardless, people will still try to cherry pick facts here or there in an effort to try and make their anti sprint voices heard. It’s fine, and they have the right to do that. I think it’s funny how theses results never get brought up though. Must be because it directly contradicts the anti sprint folks. I bet if these results were reversed though they’d be screaming how legit the results are and how it’s proof the “majority” of people hate sprint.
> > > > Oh well. It’s just a video game and people take this crap way to serious.
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> > > I don’t undertsand. You’re the one (and 343 with that poll) that’s cherry picking. When they posted that, 343 literally told us it was those who, “strongly disagree” with sprint. There were five possible answers: “strongly disagree”, “slightly disagree”, “neutral”, “slightly agree”, and “strongly agree”. Why did they only give us one instead of telling us how the community felt as a whole? Or at the very least who “strongly agreed” with sprint? Do you not think for yourself?
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> > > It’s like believing Halo 5 is the best selling Halo because of that press release that you didn’t read, but it doesn’t matter you didn’t read it because it had the high number in the headline.
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> > How do you figure that? In my post I said the 11% was those who strongly dislike sprint. 343 said the same. If anything your the one reading between the lines. Sure, they don’t post the all around numbers of people neutral or that kinda like or dislike sprint. But to make up any type of numbers to try imply the amount of people that make up these other percentages of participants and/or the reasons why they weren’t made public is in its self waisted breath, or in this case waisted text. Thats becase you or I can/will never get these facts or knowledge to post them. If we do post something, other than if it were to come from 343, its just numbers or reasons we’ve made up. The only actual facts here are what 343 posted…and that is that 11% of the 19,000 people that participated in that user feedback poll strongly disliked sprint.
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> > Now I’m going to assume something here. If I had to guess, which I’m doing, I’d say 343 only posted the results of people that strongly dislike sprint, the 11%, because they must feel that is the very vocal minority and, they would be the ones that were going to complain about sprint being in H5.
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> > How many anti sprinters in this thread are the “strongly dislike sprint” type do you think?
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> omg that poll lol.
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> They posted a poll on their own website lol. Most people who are against sprint in Halo are not still coming to the website of the game that has had sprint in it for a decade.

What are you talking about? The poll was never posted on their web site. Just the results were. The poll was done through a 3rd party entity, (similar to how car companies have polls done when you buy a new vehicle.).

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I think sprinting at times can get annoying, when someone just runs away, but Halo is a FPS not a First Person Running Game either way the person that ran away is going to get killed. everyone is given sprint so it’s not like it’s unfair to certain players. I do think that many have a problem with spartan charge and not sprinting, and I do endorse a classic slayer game mode without sprint to take the game back to its roots.