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> How long has this damn post been active for? Christ. It’s quickly becoming the most cancer post I’ve seen on Waypoint.
If people were to acknowledge the problems and accept criticisms, this thread would have been buried long ago.
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> If people were to acknowledge the problems and accept criticisms, this thread would have been buried long ago.
Well if they don’t think sprint’s a problem, then it’s not a problem for them. You can’t make them accept something they don’t believe.
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> > If people were to acknowledge the problems and accept criticisms, this thread would have been buried long ago.
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> Well if they don’t think sprint’s a problem, then it’s not a problem for them. You can’t make them accept something they don’t believe.
Yes, they may argue against other people who believes the opposite. However, comments like “Go play MCC”, “Go play Destiny”, “I like sprint”, “Halo needs to evolve”, “Halo needs to stay relevant”, “Sprint makes you move faster”, etc. are the ones who revived this thread and kept it alive. Some people even stated they never need any reason why they think sprint is good for Halo while they ask reasons for why people hate sprint and think it is bad for Halo. When they said things like “I hate sprint”, people jumped on that person and called “hater” and begged them to give reason why, while they never gave reason.
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> This subject is rather touchy, and highly subjective. Others view sprinting as a detriment to an otherwise optimal system, and others thing contrary. However, in Halo 5 they implemented further use for sprint (Spartan charge, that is). Although traditionally Halo did not have sprint, it is a feature that they have placed in the game and there is a place for it in the more modern games. Looking back at halo 3, it was rather slow paced. You had your Primary weapon, secondary weapon, a wide verity of grenades, and a large selection of equipment (e.x Bubble shield, Regeneration field, ect.) And the combination of those features made the game play interesting. But the game does need to evolve, and what better way to do that then implementing small and convenient features that keep the game play interesting. However displeasing my opinion may be to some, just hold on for a moment. Sprinting speeds up a traditionally rather sluggish game play (And that is not bad.) into a very fast paced game. But the sprint and thrust pack does add more options when it comes to tactical maneuvers. It makes it easier to flank enemies, and retreat when necessary. Another note; Sprinting in a slayer match will decrease your performance, as it does take time for you to stop and raise your weapon. But that is just my opinion. Further thoughts?
Neither Halo 2 nor Halo 3’s gameplay was slow. The remake of Ivory Tower in Reach was slow. Truth, in Halo 5, is slow. Halo evolved from Halo 2 to Halo 3, and there was major community backlash when Reach came out. So what did 343i do? They completely changed the gameplay for Halo 4, and when that didn’t work, they changed it in a different way in Halo 5. The pace of classic Halo’s gameplay was just fine, I’m sick of all the CoD fanboys saying otherwise. I didn’t need sprint to coordinate with my team in order to flank, I used my knowledge of game mechanics and map design to do that. Retreat? Yeah, why should someone be punished for making a mistake? That would be competitive or something. Sprint is not the only direction in which Halo can evolve. What happened to BXR, doubleshots, and quadshots? Sure, they were unintentional, but they took real skill to pull off. Thrusting behind cover when you’re being out-BRed, doesn’t.
Sprint is bad because it has changed Halo’s solid map design. That is a fact.
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> > > > > > RuthlessSkate told me to post this here and my thread was locked, so I guess I’m posting this here.
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> > > > > > > Yes, it’s another sprint thread, but here I’m talking about a compromise, not a removal (mods please don’t lock this). We need a compromise badly. If we keep sprint, we’d by excluding a big portion of the fan base. If we remove sprint, then we’d also be removing another big portion of the fanbase. Here I have come up with a few different compromises:
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> > > > > > > 1. What if we were just to increase base speed and lower map size, but keep sprint? Let’s face it, we’ve all had those times in halo 3 where we just wanted to sprint to cover. With this way, sprint would be a lot less common and you’d still have for those times where you just want to sprint.
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> > > > > > > 2. Have about 5 classic playlists. This way, the classic players wouldn’t get bored with their one classic playlist. What is like is a combination of idea #1 and #2.
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> > > > > > > 3. This one is my least favorite, but I thought I’d put it out there anyways. You would be able to sprint with your weapon up and throw grenades and melee, but it’d be a lot less accurate and your camera would shake a bit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So what do you guys think about these ideas? If you have your own ideas (not “remove sprint” or “keep it how it is”), post them. We definitely need a compromise that would make both sides happy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Are you insisting to make base movement and sprint speed same?
> > > > > 2. In order to make classic playlist work, there should be maps for classic playlist.
> > > > > 3.Then sprint will be pointless, since increased movement can do exact same thing without any punishment for sprinting.
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> > > > > A true compromise would be making base movement and sprint same speed, so map and sandbox is not affected by its movement. This will make sprint also pointless, but people want it.
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> > > > 1. No, sprinting would be faster, but it wouldn’t be by a lot.
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> > > > 2. Yes I know. Either 343 can alter or make new maps or the forge team can handle it.
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> > > > 3. I’m just suggesting something that would make both sides happy.
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> > >
> > > People want sprint to be gone and another group of people want sprint. Both want the opposite. There cannot be any compromise for sprint. Including sprint in any form will be a betrayal for them, because sprint is there, and excluding sprint will be another betrayal to people who wants it. It is either side, remove or keep.
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> > There actually can be compromise and I just listed 3 ways we could do it. What’s wrong with a combination of option 1 and 2?
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> two words: splitted population.
It’s already split. This won’t split it anymore than it already is.
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> Halo would be halo again if it was BUNGIE. Sprint was used in Halo Reach, the game created by BUNGIE. Therefore, Sprint should stay.
Armor Abilities were a good idea on paper. Evade probably had the most versatility, and was definitely the most broken. I mostly played Firefight in Reach, until Halo CE: Anniversary came out.
Anyway, using that same logic, Bungie put dual-wielding into the game, so it should’ve stayed, right?
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> > > > > > RuthlessSkate told me to post this here and my thread was locked, so I guess I’m posting this here.
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> > > > > > > Yes, it’s another sprint thread, but here I’m talking about a compromise, not a removal (mods please don’t lock this). We need a compromise badly. If we keep sprint, we’d by excluding a big portion of the fan base. If we remove sprint, then we’d also be removing another big portion of the fanbase. Here I have come up with a few different compromises:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. What if we were just to increase base speed and lower map size, but keep sprint? Let’s face it, we’ve all had those times in halo 3 where we just wanted to sprint to cover. With this way, sprint would be a lot less common and you’d still have for those times where you just want to sprint.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2. Have about 5 classic playlists. This way, the classic players wouldn’t get bored with their one classic playlist. What is like is a combination of idea #1 and #2.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3. This one is my least favorite, but I thought I’d put it out there anyways. You would be able to sprint with your weapon up and throw grenades and melee, but it’d be a lot less accurate and your camera would shake a bit.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So what do you guys think about these ideas? If you have your own ideas (not “remove sprint” or “keep it how it is”), post them. We definitely need a compromise that would make both sides happy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. Are you insisting to make base movement and sprint speed same?
> > > > > 2. In order to make classic playlist work, there should be maps for classic playlist.
> > > > > 3.Then sprint will be pointless, since increased movement can do exact same thing without any punishment for sprinting.
> > > > >
> > > > > A true compromise would be making base movement and sprint same speed, so map and sandbox is not affected by its movement. This will make sprint also pointless, but people want it.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > 1. No, sprinting would be faster, but it wouldn’t be by a lot.
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> > > > 2. Yes I know. Either 343 can alter or make new maps or the forge team can handle it.
> > > >
> > > > 3. I’m just suggesting something that would make both sides happy.
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> > >
> > > People want sprint to be gone and another group of people want sprint. Both want the opposite. There cannot be any compromise for sprint. Including sprint in any form will be a betrayal for them, because sprint is there, and excluding sprint will be another betrayal to people who wants it. It is either side, remove or keep.
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> > There actually can be compromise and I just listed 3 ways we could do it. What’s wrong with a combination of option 1 and 2?
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> Your lists are not compromise for people who want sprint to be gone forever, because it still includes sprint in the game. Adding proper original style playlist will be the only solution, but the problem is this may split the community into half. Also, people want Halo to stick with its original formula and see improvements upon its formula. Treating its original gameplay as side stuff will make fighters who want its original formula to be the main thing in Halo.
There is no compromise for those who want it 100% out of the game. They are the ones who need to compromise he most, because as it stands now, sprint is staying in the game.
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> I rather them to keep the sprint, however, reduce the dead airs between sprinting and aiming or at least have a perk that does that.
Perks aren’t Halo.
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> > > > > > > RuthlessSkate told me to post this here and my thread was locked, so I guess I’m posting this here.
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> > > > > > > > Yes, it’s another sprint thread, but here I’m talking about a compromise, not a removal (mods please don’t lock this). We need a compromise badly. If we keep sprint, we’d by excluding a big portion of the fan base. If we remove sprint, then we’d also be removing another big portion of the fanbase. Here I have come up with a few different compromises:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 1. What if we were just to increase base speed and lower map size, but keep sprint? Let’s face it, we’ve all had those times in halo 3 where we just wanted to sprint to cover. With this way, sprint would be a lot less common and you’d still have for those times where you just want to sprint.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 2. Have about 5 classic playlists. This way, the classic players wouldn’t get bored with their one classic playlist. What is like is a combination of idea #1 and #2.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 3. This one is my least favorite, but I thought I’d put it out there anyways. You would be able to sprint with your weapon up and throw grenades and melee, but it’d be a lot less accurate and your camera would shake a bit.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So what do you guys think about these ideas? If you have your own ideas (not “remove sprint” or “keep it how it is”), post them. We definitely need a compromise that would make both sides happy.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. Are you insisting to make base movement and sprint speed same?
> > > > > > 2. In order to make classic playlist work, there should be maps for classic playlist.
> > > > > > 3.Then sprint will be pointless, since increased movement can do exact same thing without any punishment for sprinting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A true compromise would be making base movement and sprint same speed, so map and sandbox is not affected by its movement. This will make sprint also pointless, but people want it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > 1. No, sprinting would be faster, but it wouldn’t be by a lot.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2. Yes I know. Either 343 can alter or make new maps or the forge team can handle it.
> > > > >
> > > > > 3. I’m just suggesting something that would make both sides happy.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > People want sprint to be gone and another group of people want sprint. Both want the opposite. There cannot be any compromise for sprint. Including sprint in any form will be a betrayal for them, because sprint is there, and excluding sprint will be another betrayal to people who wants it. It is either side, remove or keep.
> > >
> > >
> > > There actually can be compromise and I just listed 3 ways we could do it. What’s wrong with a combination of option 1 and 2?
> >
> >
> > Your lists are not compromise for people who want sprint to be gone forever, because it still includes sprint in the game. Adding proper original style playlist will be the only solution, but the problem is this may split the community into half. Also, people want Halo to stick with its original formula and see improvements upon its formula. Treating its original gameplay as side stuff will make fighters who want its original formula to be the main thing in Halo.
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> There is no compromise for those who want it 100% out of the game. They are the ones who need to compromise he most, because as it stands now, sprint is staying in the game.
Why they need to compromise the most? When another side never even try to explain why they like sprint and think sprint is good for Halo?
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> > Halo would be halo again if it was BUNGIE. Sprint was used in Halo Reach, the game created by BUNGIE. Therefore, Sprint should stay.
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> Armor Abilities were a good idea on paper. Evade probably had the most versatility, and was definitely the most broken. I mostly played Firefight in Reach, until Halo CE: Anniversary came out.
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> Anyway, using that same logic, Bungie put dual-wielding into the game, so it should’ve stayed, right?
By that logic, Halo should be game without sprint because original games had no sprint. It is funny that people still try to defend sprint desperately by using illogical argument.
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> If u must play no sprint halo get on mcc obviously that ship has sailed when it comes to halo 5 and all future halos unless its a remaster/anniversary game
The MCC was a disaster, yo. Halo 2: Anniversary as a stand-alone title would’ve embarrassed Halo 4.
Jumped the gun, sorry. Maybe I should demonstrate some reading comprehension. =P
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> > > > Halo would be halo again if it was BUNGIE. Sprint was used in Halo Reach, the game created by BUNGIE. Therefore, Sprint should stay.
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> > > Armor Abilities were a good idea on paper. Evade probably had the most versatility, and was definitely the most broken. I mostly played Firefight in Reach, until Halo CE: Anniversary came out.
> > >
> > > Anyway, using that same logic, Bungie put dual-wielding into the game, so it should’ve stayed, right?
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> > By that logic, Halo should be game without sprint because original games had no sprint. It is funny that people still try to defend sprint desperately by using illogical argument.
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> If you had read my other posts, then you would realize just how silly you sound right now.
Yeah I know, I am being silly. Silly comments for silly people. (not saying you are silly)
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> > > > > > They have to incorporate a change into halo somehow.
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> > > > > LOL wut. Why. It was a beautiful, skillful game. Why would you change chess just because you can or you think people will get “bored with it”?
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> > > > > > the gameplay feels the same as all the others.
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> > > > > You can’t be serious. You just invalidated your entire post.
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> > > > No I did not. I said I do like sprint in halo and was giving an example of what would happen if they didn’t. It was a change to the gameplay that was needed to prevent from the gameplay feeling stale from game to game.
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> > > But way you move in Halo 5 is very similar to other games.
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> > So? The concept of sprint doesn’t belong to one game, it’s a universal movement system. Plus, in terms of lore, wouldn’t it make sense that over the years in the halo universe, wouldn’t it make sense to further improve the spartan armor by giving spartans the ability to move around faster making them even more dangerous than they already were?
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> Lore should not always dictate gameplay, especially multiplayer wise. Halo has already shown 3 times now, that sprint isn’t working, the devs obviously know or they wouldn’t keep adding panalties to them to “try” and comprimise those who don’t like sprint.
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> @ those saying how halo is copying other games movements, so did CE…and 2…and 3. You peope ever played quake? Unreal? Seriously, halos movements have never been a unique innovation that was never done before. It’s perfectly fine to dislike halos new movements, but don’t just say that it’s now copying other games when that’s how halo was made up to begin with lol. Halo gained traction because on the console itself, it was different but also perfected used mechanics better than others. But the original concept of its movement, was not different nor unheard of.
Except Halo’s gameplay isn’t like Quake or UT. Loadouts and perks weren’t perfected in Halo 4. Movement in Halo 5 is unbalanced, even with sprint providing certain limitations. Classic Halo had solid gameplay.
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> > > > > Halo would be halo again if it was BUNGIE. Sprint was used in Halo Reach, the game created by BUNGIE. Therefore, Sprint should stay.
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> > > > Armor Abilities were a good idea on paper. Evade probably had the most versatility, and was definitely the most broken. I mostly played Firefight in Reach, until Halo CE: Anniversary came out.
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> > > > Anyway, using that same logic, Bungie put dual-wielding into the game, so it should’ve stayed, right?
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> > > By that logic, Halo should be game without sprint because original games had no sprint. It is funny that people still try to defend sprint desperately by using illogical argument.
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> > If you had read my other posts, then you would realize just how silly you sound right now.
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> Yeah I know, I am being silly. Silly comments for silly people. (not saying you are silly)
Oh, but I am. I apologize once again.
Ah! Pretty soon this will be the most posted thread on waypoint if we keep this pace up… 
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> > > > > > > > RuthlessSkate told me to post this here and my thread was locked, so I guess I’m posting this here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, it’s another sprint thread, but here I’m talking about a compromise, not a removal (mods please don’t lock this). We need a compromise badly. If we keep sprint, we’d by excluding a big portion of the fan base. If we remove sprint, then we’d also be removing another big portion of the fanbase. Here I have come up with a few different compromises:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 1. What if we were just to increase base speed and lower map size, but keep sprint? Let’s face it, we’ve all had those times in halo 3 where we just wanted to sprint to cover. With this way, sprint would be a lot less common and you’d still have for those times where you just want to sprint.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 2. Have about 5 classic playlists. This way, the classic players wouldn’t get bored with their one classic playlist. What is like is a combination of idea #1 and #2.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 3. This one is my least favorite, but I thought I’d put it out there anyways. You would be able to sprint with your weapon up and throw grenades and melee, but it’d be a lot less accurate and your camera would shake a bit.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > So what do you guys think about these ideas? If you have your own ideas (not “remove sprint” or “keep it how it is”), post them. We definitely need a compromise that would make both sides happy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1. Are you insisting to make base movement and sprint speed same?
> > > > > > > 2. In order to make classic playlist work, there should be maps for classic playlist.
> > > > > > > 3.Then sprint will be pointless, since increased movement can do exact same thing without any punishment for sprinting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A true compromise would be making base movement and sprint same speed, so map and sandbox is not affected by its movement. This will make sprint also pointless, but people want it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1. No, sprinting would be faster, but it wouldn’t be by a lot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2. Yes I know. Either 343 can alter or make new maps or the forge team can handle it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3. I’m just suggesting something that would make both sides happy.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > People want sprint to be gone and another group of people want sprint. Both want the opposite. There cannot be any compromise for sprint. Including sprint in any form will be a betrayal for them, because sprint is there, and excluding sprint will be another betrayal to people who wants it. It is either side, remove or keep.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > There actually can be compromise and I just listed 3 ways we could do it. What’s wrong with a combination of option 1 and 2?
> > >
> > >
> > > Your lists are not compromise for people who want sprint to be gone forever, because it still includes sprint in the game. Adding proper original style playlist will be the only solution, but the problem is this may split the community into half. Also, people want Halo to stick with its original formula and see improvements upon its formula. Treating its original gameplay as side stuff will make fighters who want its original formula to be the main thing in Halo.
> >
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> > There is no compromise for those who want it 100% out of the game. They are the ones who need to compromise he most, because as it stands now, sprint is staying in the game.
>
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> Why they need to compromise the most? When another side never even try to explain why they like sprint and think sprint is good for Halo?
They need to compromise for the same reason why many people never explain why they like sprint: sprint isn’t going anywhere. We don’t need to convince anyone that sprint should be in halo, because it’s already in halo and it’s not going anywhere. You guys are the ones who make it good for both sides. I’m just trying to get to a compromise so everyone will shut up about this. I’ll be fine if sprint stays how it is.
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> > > > > > LOL wut. Why. It was a beautiful, skillful game. Why would you change chess just because you can or you think people will get “bored with it”?
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> > > > > > > the gameplay feels the same as all the others.
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> > > > > > You can’t be serious. You just invalidated your entire post.
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> > > > > No I did not. I said I do like sprint in halo and was giving an example of what would happen if they didn’t. It was a change to the gameplay that was needed to prevent from the gameplay feeling stale from game to game.
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> > > > But way you move in Halo 5 is very similar to other games.
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> > > So? The concept of sprint doesn’t belong to one game, it’s a universal movement system. Plus, in terms of lore, wouldn’t it make sense that over the years in the halo universe, wouldn’t it make sense to further improve the spartan armor by giving spartans the ability to move around faster making them even more dangerous than they already were?
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> > Lore should not always dictate gameplay, especially multiplayer wise. Halo has already shown 3 times now, that sprint isn’t working, the devs obviously know or they wouldn’t keep adding panalties to them to “try” and comprimise those who don’t like sprint.
> >
> > @ those saying how halo is copying other games movements, so did CE…and 2…and 3. You peope ever played quake? Unreal? Seriously, halos movements have never been a unique innovation that was never done before. It’s perfectly fine to dislike halos new movements, but don’t just say that it’s now copying other games when that’s how halo was made up to begin with lol. Halo gained traction because on the console itself, it was different but also perfected used mechanics better than others. But the original concept of its movement, was not different nor unheard of.
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> Yeah admittingly that point was pretty stupid. But I really don’t see why sprint is a big as an issue as people are making out to be to be honest. I don’t see a problem with halo adding sprint. The way i mainly see it used is to just get back into the action, run away from being shot, and the occasional spartan charge. So, what’s the issue?
The issue is that it makes the gameplay unbalanced and ruins map design. Halo already had multiple movement speeds depending on how much pressure you put on the analog stick. Sprint is unnecessary and detrimental to the even playing field that was present in previous Halo titles.
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> > > > > > > They have to incorporate a change into halo somehow.
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> > > > > > LOL wut. Why. It was a beautiful, skillful game. Why would you change chess just because you can or you think people will get “bored with it”?
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> > > > > > > the gameplay feels the same as all the others.
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> > > > > > You can’t be serious. You just invalidated your entire post.
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> > > > > No I did not. I said I do like sprint in halo and was giving an example of what would happen if they didn’t. It was a change to the gameplay that was needed to prevent from the gameplay feeling stale from game to game.
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> > > > But way you move in Halo 5 is very similar to other games.
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> > > So? The concept of sprint doesn’t belong to one game, it’s a universal movement system. Plus, in terms of lore, wouldn’t it make sense that over the years in the halo universe, wouldn’t it make sense to further improve the spartan armor by giving spartans the ability to move around faster making them even more dangerous than they already were?
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> > Lore should not always dictate gameplay, especially multiplayer wise. Halo has already shown 3 times now, that sprint isn’t working, the devs obviously know or they wouldn’t keep adding panalties to them to “try” and comprimise those who don’t like sprint.
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> > @ those saying how halo is copying other games movements, so did CE…and 2…and 3. You peope ever played quake? Unreal? Seriously, halos movements have never been a unique innovation that was never done before. It’s perfectly fine to dislike halos new movements, but don’t just say that it’s now copying other games when that’s how halo was made up to begin with lol. Halo gained traction because on the console itself, it was different but also perfected used mechanics better than others. But the original concept of its movement, was not different nor unheard of.
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> Except Halo’s gameplay isn’t like Quake or UT. Loadouts and perks weren’t perfected in Halo 4. Movement in Halo 5 is unbalanced, even with sprint providing certain limitations. Classic Halo had solid gameplay.
I agree it had solid game play but you’re talking about a game that is 15 years old. If we had the same game now as then we would all be -Yoinking!- about it being that it hasn’t changed enough and they (343 and Bungie) aren’t even trying. Much like people are -Yoinking!- because the game is “too different” now. Point is no game will be perfect. People will still find something to complain about. If you think it (whatever “it” is) is perfect but I might think it’s terrible and vice versa.
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> > > > > This subject is rather touchy, and highly subjective. Others view sprinting as a detriment to an otherwise optimal system, and others thing contrary. However, in Halo 5 they implemented further use for sprint (Spartan charge, that is). Although traditionally Halo did not have sprint, it is a feature that they have placed in the game and there is a place for it in the more modern games. Looking back at halo 3, it was rather slow paced. You had your Primary weapon, secondary weapon, a wide verity of grenades, and a large selection of equipment (e.x Bubble shield, Regeneration field, ect.) And the combination of those features made the game play interesting. But the game does need to evolve, and what better way to do that then implementing small and convenient features that keep the game play interesting. However displeasing my opinion may be to some, just hold on for a moment. Sprinting speeds up a traditionally rather sluggish game play (And that is not bad.) into a very fast paced game. But the sprint and thrust pack does add more options when it comes to tactical maneuvers. It makes it easier to flank enemies, and retreat when necessary. Another note; Sprinting in a slayer match will decrease your performance, as it does take time for you to stop and raise your weapon. But that is just my opinion. Further thoughts?
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> > > > wait, so you either like sprint/hate it/or just don’t really want to involve hate or likes about it?
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> > > I dont mind sprint. It does have its uses
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> > Would you mind if we allowed everyone to spawn with a rocket launcher? Because it does have its uses. Sprint takes away skill and doesn’t add any actual depth to the game. Why don’t you mind it?
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Try explaining how it doesn’t.