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In future iterations of Halo they are going to have IQ rates based on the overall tone of your thread replies.
they should just make a game playlist where the base speed and have no sprint
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> Sprint isn’t really an issue to be honest. I surely don’t find it as an issue.They have to incorporate a change into halo somehow. Let’s be honest, if they didn’t change the movement or gameplay in any way from halo 1 to 5, we would probably have the same complaint as call of duty does, the gameplay feels the same as all the others. Personally, I’m fine with sprint for this very reason.
Actually, my biggest complaint with CoD is its map design. Guess what my biggest complaint with Halo 5 is? Now, guess what game mechanic has affected Halo’s map design.
Teleporters and man-cannons did the trick. Just like equipment.
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> > > > > > > > Here is an article from a couple months ago. Poor Halo, such doom and gloom. Sprint must be at fault Grabs pitchfork and torch
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> > > > > > Was it the part about “highest active players since H3?” or the fact you have zero games played in H5? I forget?
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> > > > > I got it. That statistic was based on monthly active users, which means if I sat on the h5 home screen for a second any time in the month I count as a user. Monthly active users is considered a very unreliable way of population counting because a month is a long time, and playing for an short amount of time like an hour in that month doesn’t amount to anything considerable with monthly updates, it just shows that monthly updates got people to come back for a little while, check out the new stuff and leave again. How do I know that people were only checking out the updates for short periods of time? If we use the most played list, which we have to since 343 hasn’t put in a population counter (weird huh?) we can compare h5s standing on that list with games around it that do have population counters, using bf4 which halo 5 floats around consistantly we can estimate a population of 30 to 40 thousand on average at any given time. That’s very low for a AAA title 8 months after release, halo 3 was more than tripling that two years after release. As for Zr0Fear not having any games played I can’t speak for him but I’m assuming he plays xbox on a diffrent account because he’s to knowledgable on the game and it’s gameplay to not play it.
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> > > > So how is that constructive criticism? People are like I prefer sprint. They don’t need a reason, makes the game more… whats the word… FUN. I got no problems finding matches, I got no problems playing with sprint, played the halo’s without sprint, had fun, won games. Had LAN parties with houses full of people as a teen. Again, I posted ideas of what I think would add to the game, and some of it ended up in updates. These tiresome threads of how -insert whatever here- is ruining Halo is pure whining. Especially from people who don’t even play. The game is successful, made millions of dollars, got rid of draining people’s money with DLC. If it was half as bad as ya’ll made it out to be they would have cut updates short and abandoned ship. Yo I preordered Duke Nukem forever, don’t talk to me about epic let downs from games past. Bottom line is I hope they don’t listen to you haters and work on the story, not the MP mechanics.
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> > > Your entire post completely avoided the point where you obliviously called someone else out then got proved wrong hard. Dismissing all criticism as haters won’t get you anywhere, and my post wasn’t even critizing 343 except for their lack of a population counter, it was disproving how you sek emed to think h5 has a massive population. Halo 5s unit sales are only estimated at 5 million, and in their first week cash sales they included all h5 related hardware, toys, and just evreything h5 related and they were still low numbers for a AAA game. You clearly missed the part where I mentioned him using a diffrent account for waypoint and either way he’s more than knowledgable enough to make much more reasonable points than you have. This is a forum, “it’s my opinion” doesn’t cut it here, it’s educated opinions based on facts and statistics, otherwise your unbased opinion doesn’t really matter. Next
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> > Gee his halo score seems to be in the 2k range… I really could give a hoot what the population is unless it effects me finding games, what am I some how benefiting on the fact that the pop would be 10 million some crazy way? There is a lot of good games out man, how are you shocked that there is pop flux? Destiny took a serious hit when Halo 5 came out, I had friends swear up and down it halo wouldn’t make a dent and they sulked on over into my fireteam. it works all across the board. I put video illustrations up on how the movement system allows me to flow across the map, you can’t get power weapons fast enough? you gotta adjust to how the game is played. All AAA games are up against eachother because quite frankly its too expensive for everyone to just be like, why not just buy them all and pick which one i like the best. I’ve given all my reasons and don’t need to repeat myself. I will again lobby for
> > DUAL THUMBSTICK EXTRA SPRINT (Duration 2sec) FOR HALO 6!!!
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> Once again you made a completely diffrent argument rather then the one we were actually discussing, if you think sprint makes the game flow faster read more of this thread, because there are easily over a hundred essay sized posts linking videos and other sources explaining in quite a bit of detail why your wrong, please also Google AAA games that came out in 2007/2010 if you think halo 5 has so much more competition, it has nothing to do with adjusting, this forum is here for discussion about what we like and don’t like in the game, I’m not just going to “adapt” to playing something me and millions of others don’t want. And population matters quite a bit because it measures the success of a game, changes in gameplay like sprint are clearly a large factor in that sales drop, more sales means a more successful halo franchise which is good for everybody, and right now 343 is going down a path that leads to low sales and failure of the franchise.
I’ve read them, yet it the game is wildly accepted as a success and plenty of people still play and plenty of people say they like it. Still a large portion of whining persists. A lot of why do you like sprint? What is some scientific algorithm needed to be like it feels natural? Again I keep saying only a very small portion of people are going to be like “oh this game has Sprint? I’m not buying it.” Call me cocky if you want, I don’t give a Buck’s shotgun shell son. I don’t like battlefelid cuz I don’t want to be sniped out from some dude parashooting out of an f18 midair across the map. I don’t like call of duty because some dude can camp out and call in some ridiculous kill steak and have a super inflated kd. Rather have someone chance me down and surprise them with a sticky to the face as they are trying to spartan carge me one on one. Its Player preference pure and simple. There is no winners in this thread. It may as well only be a poll.
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> > LOL wut. Why. It was a beautiful, skillful game. Why would you change chess just because you can or you think people will get “bored with it”?
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> No I did not. I said I do like sprint in halo and was giving an example of what would happen if they didn’t. It was a change to the gameplay that was needed to prevent from the gameplay feeling stale from game to game.
Dude, the map design is what makes things fresh. Why do you think Lockout was one of the most loved maps in all of Halo? What about Hang Em High? Like, wut?
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> > > No way. I do not particularly like sprint but removing it is certainly for the worst.
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> One reason would be because it is a sign of outdated gameplay. And it wouldn’t change the campaign that much, just prolong it a bit, and it makes multiplayer more competitive and unpredictable.
Halo doesn’t need to be modern, it needs to be Halo. How does sprint make multiplayer more competitive? What happened to the days of precisely tossing a grenade to get the Sniper Rifle from Sword on Lockout?
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> Why does this forum keep popping-up on popular topics? Sprint is staying. Whether people like it or not.
Then Halo will truly be dead to the core Halo fanbase.
Why not compromise and ask 343i to make modern and classic playlists. I’m sure 343i might consider it.
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> > Why does this forum keep popping-up on popular topics? Sprint is staying. Whether people like it or not.
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> I agree. I don’t have a problem with sprint but a lot of these folks have put all their eggs in one basket and have declared sprint to be the demise of Halo. These are the same people that would complain about a series that never offers anything new and creative with a new release. lol
Oh? Halo 3 had nothing creative or new?
Halo 5’s gameplay is nothing like classic Halo, the only reason that I’m grinding in it is so that I can play Warzone matches in ways that are over-the-top. Spartan Charge is the biggest–it just makes me so angry. This game actually makes me mad at times, and that was never a thing before sprint showed up. In Reach, if someone had sprint, then they were gone before you could finish them off. Simply infuriating.
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> > > Here is an article from a couple months ago. Poor Halo, such doom and gloom. Sprint must be at fault Grabs pitchfork and torch
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> No idea, I searched, couldn’t find exact figures. It’s all speculation. All I know is I have no trouble finding matches and meeting cool people
You only have to log in once, for a second, to count towards the monthly active users. Guess what happens when 343i releases monthly "DLC"s?
There’s no nothing wrong with sprint. If you don’t want sprint don’t use it and don’t take it away from the players like me who like it and use it
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> > > Why does this forum keep popping-up on popular topics? Sprint is staying. Whether people like it or not.
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> > I agree. I don’t have a problem with sprint but a lot of these folks have put all their eggs in one basket and have declared sprint to be the demise of Halo. These are the same people that would complain about a series that never offers anything new and creative with a new release. lol
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> Halo 5’s gameplay is nothing like classic Halo, the only reason that I’m grinding in it is so that I can play Warzone matches in ways that are over-the-top. Spartan Charge is the biggest–it just makes me so angry. This game actually makes me mad at times, and that was never a thing before sprint showed up. In Reach, if someone had sprint, then they were gone before you could finish them off. Simply infuriating.
I think genuine emotion is a good thing for a game. It can promote a desire to get better. Be more competitive. An argument against sprint that says “I don’t like it because people get away” is like saying “Battlefield 3 shouldn’t have had jets because I don’t know how to fly them as well as others”. That’s the way the cookie crumbles. I don’t like no scoping with a sniper because I suck at it. Like legitimately terrible. Does that mean we should do away with snipers? I get that this topic is deeper than that. Large maps built around sprint blah blah blah.
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> In future iterations of Halo they are going to have IQ rates based on the overall tone of your thread replies.
Will they also include instances in which people actually contribute to what is being said?
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> they should just make a game playlist where the base speed and have no sprint
Ding ding ding! Easiest way to cater to both side.
And 343i hasn’t done this because of–reasons?
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> There’s no nothing wrong with sprint. If you don’t want sprint don’t use it and don’t take it away from the players like me who like it and use it
This is all wrong.
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> > There’s no nothing wrong with sprint. If you don’t want sprint don’t use it and don’t take it away from the players like me who like it and use it
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Am I wrong?
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> > > There’s no nothing wrong with sprint. If you don’t want sprint don’t use it and don’t take it away from the players like me who like it and use it
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Not sure if serious…
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> There’s no nothing wrong with sprint. If you don’t want sprint don’t use it and don’t take it away from the players like me who like it and use it
I’m a Halo vet who is expected to learn how to play Halo 5, yet the newblood are unwilling to learn how to play classic Halo. It’s just kind of ridiculous to me, you know? Halo’s classic gameplay on new maps was what made it interesting. Transit? Oh, what a map!
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> > > > Why does this forum keep popping-up on popular topics? Sprint is staying. Whether people like it or not.
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> > > I agree. I don’t have a problem with sprint but a lot of these folks have put all their eggs in one basket and have declared sprint to be the demise of Halo. These are the same people that would complain about a series that never offers anything new and creative with a new release. lol
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> > Halo 5’s gameplay is nothing like classic Halo, the only reason that I’m grinding in it is so that I can play Warzone matches in ways that are over-the-top. Spartan Charge is the biggest–it just makes me so angry. This game actually makes me mad at times, and that was never a thing before sprint showed up. In Reach, if someone had sprint, then they were gone before you could finish them off. Simply infuriating.
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> I think genuine emotion is a good thing for a game. It can promote a desire to get better. Be more competitive. An argument against sprint that says “I don’t like it because people get away” is like saying “Battlefield 3 shouldn’t have had jets because I don’t know how to fly them as well as others”. That’s the way the cookie crumbles. I don’t like no scoping with a sniper because I suck at it. Like legitimately terrible. Does that mean we should do away with snipers? I get that this topic is deeper than that. Large maps built around sprint blah blah blah.
Uh, I was much more competitive when I was playing Halo 2 and Halo 3, because they required real skill to excel at. As for your weak analogy, I haven’t played Battlefield 3, but I honestly believe that sprint was only put into the game in order to appeal to the CoD fanbase. Reach’s sprint ability–and many other armor abilities–were broken. Halo 5’s sprint is actually somewhat balanced, but if I lose speed by being shot while making a sprint jump, then yeah, the gameplay is nothing like classic Halo. What happened to jump tactics? Okay, you have to be trolling, I had some of the best times having no-scope wars on Boarding Action.
Let’s cut to the chase: does 343i have a legitimate reason for alienating the core Halo fanbase by not even offering a classic Halo playlist in Halo 5: Guardians?
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> Why not compromise and ask 343i to make modern and classic playlists. I’m sure 343i might consider it.
Why would the core Halo fanbase need to ask for such a thing? Does 343i just not care?