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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Games need to evolve (ex: add sprint), or this game would end up like Madden football. Where the same game essentially gets released with minor updates to physics.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Another bland “Halo needs to evolve” statement.
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> > > > > > > > > > > good argument. (aka… you are wrong and have no argument to use against me)
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> > > > > > > > > > How am I wrong? I and other people already posted why sprint isn’t a good thing and should be absent in future. But there are people commenting like this comment “Halo needs to evolve”. Do we need to write same thing over and over when you could just look up about 300 pages to know why? If you insist I will write for you.
> > > > > > > > > > 1. Sprint is unnecessary thing added to the game.
> > > > > > > > > > 2. It breaks the Golden Triangle that formed Halo’s gameplay.
> > > > > > > > > > 3. Maps get bigger due to sprint, which is also unnecessary change, it is illusion of being fast.
> > > > > > > > > > 4. Sprint doesn’t make game evolve. Let me ask you this, how sprint is evolution? What makes sprint evolving the game?
> > > > > > > > > > 5. Movement becomes generic.
> > > > > > > > > > 6. Sprint is used to run away from battle.
> > > > > > > > > > 7. Map loses variety/diversity due to sprint.
> > > > > > > > > > 8. Game doesn’t need sprint to be fast paced.
> > > > > > > > > > 9. Game should be improved upon its formula.
> > > > > > > > > > 10. The reason sprint was added is very idiotic. What “people are expected to see sprint”? Who are those people, oh yeah people from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Titanfall, etc. Why would 343 make a Halo game for them? Why add and change things to get them? They will still play their game, even though Halo has sprint.
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> > > > > > > > > These are all opinions, of which you are in the minority. Those aren’t reasons the feature should be absent going forward.
> > > > > > > > > You clearly don’t get it.
> > > > > > > > > Enjoy sprint in H6. 
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> > > > > > > > Can you justify why sprint is good for Halo with facts?
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> > > > > > > Some guy in the lore sprinted once.
> > > > > > > A.k.a. no tangible facts.
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> > > > > > At the end you have to sell the game, and 343 make it for, even for people from Call of Duty, Battlefield, Titanfall, etc.
> > > > > > I don’t use it to run away, but personally, i prefer to be an armor ability than a permanent use thing.
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> > > > > By selling a game you sell it to your old audience and try to attract new audiences. You do not market and create a game to attract new audiences. This will result in your already established user base to drop significantly. This is Product Management 101. Also by being as close to COD, BF, etc. as possible you start to lose the identity of why a franchise was so popular. Just something to think about.
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> > > > Wrong. Again.
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> > > > Our established base is dying as the H1-H3 generation is all older and playing less. They need to replace the loss of original players with new players. You don’t do that by recycling the same mechanics.
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> > > How am I wrong? You haven’t provided any proof. You claim the Halo CE-3 generation was dying.
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> > > My counter argument. On March 31, 2009, Halo 3 had 95,000 players. This is about a year and a half after launch. Halo 5 has been out for 10 or so months and is roughly estimated at 20,000-30,000. So what you are saying is that Halo needed to replace NINETY-FIVE THOUSAND people for 30,000? So there is evidence of Halo 5 dying, should Halo change back to the Halo 3 style of play?
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> > > What you are saying just isn’t adding up and you are trying to tell me I am wrong? lol
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> > > Also on May 29, 2009, Halo 3 had 143,000 players.
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> > The momentary counter for Halo 3 is kind of a weird metric because it varies wildly based on at which time of day Internet Archive took its snapshot. For instance, on May 4th it’s at 181,169, then at 5th at 43,977, and on 8th it says just 26,202. That said, the URLs do give the exact time stamp of the snapshot, but it’s kind of a pain to get useful information out of this. Unless you happen to have compiled it all into a database for whatever reason.
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> > Something else to consider is whether the momentary population tells anything useful? And most importantly, does the loss of popularity indicate any particular reason (e.g. changes in gameplay) for the loss? (Hint for the second question: it doesn’t.)
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> Unfortunately we do not have any concrete evidence as to why halo 5 is failing to maintain its population compared to h3, a mix of many things I am sure. All we can do is speculate and the obvious thing to look at is gameplay. Considering we have documented evidence that gameplay changes to an established tittle can negatively effect its player base it is no surprise that we end up drawing the conclusion that this might have something to do with it.
I would argue that the MCC launch, microtransactions and the removal of splitscreen did more to hurt H5 than sprint. I think we need to first fix those things and then on take out sprint. That being said, if H6 has sprint I might not be buying it. So I’m sure that they lost some sales on sprint, but I don’t think that it is the primary reason H5 is failing to maintain a good population.
