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> Were any single one of those changes implemented during the game’s lifetime? Nope
Yes.
Reach got No-Bloom, No-AA and No-Loadout Playlists.
Halo 4 in the MCC does not feature any ordnance.
Killcams were removed after they got flak during the Beta.
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> The developers didn’t have a change of heart, they were entirely different teams. Are you new to this?
The only game that changed team before fixes were implemented was Reach. Are you new to this?
the allusion of not being slow that’s all sprint is the halo maps have had to be bigger to accommodate for this so now we have halo maps that have lost their feel we couldn’t have splits screen because sprint was priority for 60 frames per second so now we have lost the origality of the halo series also the maps have had to change to sprint we lost 5v5 in team slayer to sprint fan favorite creations from forge have to be changed so they lose their originality as well for instance any vetrans of the series feel that sandtrap isn’t sandtrap besides the elephants the main reason I bought halo combat evolve was to play campaign with my little brother at the time coming back to the series this honestly dosent feel like halo to me you cant play spitscreen the maps are big and awkard you cant play as eleits or any other alien character and why is that halo wars 2 feels like halo wars with a fun twist (yes I know its a beta I meant so far) and it was made by the people who gave you total war. 343 was made by Microsoft for halo games to study the success of the other titles and make games similar that didn’t feel to different now what makes me think how we got halo 4 is the focus groups were like we rock at cod but suck at this and they wanted a cod halo we all know how that went down any one who plays cod can tell you its hard to get a kill in the original halo games than it is in cod titles
SO JUST ONE COD FEATURE HAS MADE US LOSE THIS MUCH WHAT DO YOU THINK WELL LOSE IF THEY ADD MORE
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> > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > Thoughts? :3
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> > > The fact that you’re arguing on behalf of competitive Halo yet are highest ranked as a Plat 2 makes this thread a joke. (Not stat flaming or saying he’s bad, but pointing out the fact that he’s trying to speak on behalf of people who actually don’t mind the sprint innovation)
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> > > Sprint is FINE. The reason everyone cried foul in Reach is because you could sprint away and still have your shields come back. Now, you can’t.
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> > > Literally never heard a single pro or person on my friendslist complain/ say sprint is the reason they won’t play H5 and my FL is full of Halo Purists.
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> > > People love finding things to cry about. 343 is -Yoink!- if they do, -Yoink!- if they don’t. No wonder they don’t come here anymore.
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> > > As for the vets part, i’ve been playing Halo 3 since week 1. I’m a vet. And i’m thoroughly pleased with what 343 has done with H5 now that i came back and gave the game a chance.
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> > TeamBeyond is almost unanimously against sprint. That website is chalk full of pros/AM kids/mm legends/champs/halo vets.
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> 1. That website is chalk full of 2013 50’s and ranked social HC 50 Halo purists.
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> 2. As for Pros, they go on the website to address issues that they’re involved in; IE Naded making the post on how he isn’t retiring, just taking the rest of the 2016 season off.
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> 3. Most of the kids on that site have never been champ in anything but SWAT, Slayer and Breakout and then if they were champ in FFA or TA it was right after resets [~2000].
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> 4. All because you’re on a forum that pros are signed up on doesn’t mean you’re good. TERRIBLE misconception. Maybe if TB was invite only; but it’s not.
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> > > > > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
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> > > > > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
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> > > > > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
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> > > > > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
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> > > > Sprint isn’t unnecessary or damaging. Does this make sense to you?
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> > Well, maybe one day, perhaps when you play the game you’ll understand.
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> You can tell me the Earth is flat and it will never make sense to me. You can feed me false information as much as you want, but it won’t ever make sense.
There is no reason to be in this thread if you’ve never played h5, in the end it comes down to the fact that non sprinters have relevant arguments where people that like sprint just say " because sprint is good" if your going to make an argument at least have an argument
Hey real quick, I just saw this while looking through the website, BTB was not originally part of the core game? I only played WZ and WZA for the majority, only switching to Arena for rage-induced FFA matches. Wow that’s kind of sad.
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> > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > Thoughts? :3
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> > > OH MY GOD! SHUT UP! When is someone going to have an original argument for or against sprint??
> > > Why is the OPTION to sprint so upsetting to you people?? you don’t have to use it. When you purists start whining about sprint and the other abilities, you just come across as old guys afraid of change. Evolve or get left behind. I’m really getting sick of all these threads. If you’re so disgusted with Halo and the direction it’s going, stop playing it. Seriously. Stop buying it. Stop playing. Stop coming to the forums posting the same nonsense over and over. The best way to get your point across would be to round up and organize the rest of the purists and boycott the game.
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> > Why us “purists” don’t like sprint in Halo: Link
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> This guy stinks! Activate movement mode?!?! His words not mine.
> For a guy who at the very beginning says he’s anti-sprint and all the other new abilities, he was sprinting, thrusting and ground pounding an awful lot.
Lol, wow, anti-sprint does not equate to refusing to use it outright. Especially when playing a game specifically designed around these mechanics. For your next reply could you actually provide a constructive argument as to why “this guy stinks” and why sprint should be in Halo? What does it actually improve on? People keep saying it makes the game faster. Though I wholeheartedly believe that to be an absolute misconception, does faster equate to being better? And could there not be ways to enhance the speed and pace of the game without sprint? Upping the base speed, making smaller maps, mancannons, vehicles, all these things do the same thing sprint does, or is supposed to do, without the negative aspects that it also brings. And it also forces 343i, as a developer, to not be lazy and actually come up with new and creative solutions.
Honestly, I didn’t know that sprint was this big of a deal. Hasn’t really changed gameplay for me that much. I feel shippers of both sides might be over thinking this a little.
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> Honestly, I didn’t know that sprint was this big of a deal. Hasn’t really changed gameplay for me that much. I feel shippers of both sides might be over thinking this a little.
It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
If you guys feel really passionately about this feel free to head over and join in on this poll. The more people take part the more accurate it will be.
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> > They sure can, for Halo 5 all they’ve got to do is update the playlists and disable sprint, unlikely now.
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> It’s not a big deal. The 3 or so people writing walls of text in this thread don’t actually play Halo 5.
Then why are you still in here? It’s not a big deal, then this thread should not appear in your eyes. But you want to get into it with people who are genuinely upset by it’s addition and make them feel sore because of your “this is how it’s going to be from now on” mentality? Well I guess I took the bait.
I’m short two games of 1000 matches in Halo 5 and I can tell you Halo 5 would benefit more than anything with the removal of sprint, and revert to higher walking speed/jump heights. I didn’t care to charge or slide or pound, I just needed to get 4 shots with a magnum and then punch the enemy Spartan through the face. Why did that need to evolve?
Here’s a better question, if they removed sprint, would you still be playing Halo 5/6? Answer me and then we’ll talk.
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> Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> Thoughts? :3
I wouldnt want it if it doesnt have sprint, so its NOT everyone
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> > > They sure can, for Halo 5 all they’ve got to do is update the playlists and disable sprint, unlikely now.
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> > Heh.
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> From game to game…
We’re discussing Sprint in Halo 5. Can you please stop trying to talk about dual wielding in halo 4, or speculating on halo 6?
My point, which you seem to agree with, is that we’re too far deep to have sprint removed from Halo 5. Our opinions just differ on whether or not that is a good thing
