It honestly depends if you play halo for the game, or the story. If it’s game then you probably don’t want sprint because of the older halos. But if you play for story, sprint is a better thing. Think of being a genetically engineered super soldier that can’t run??? Doesn’t seem too super to me. Which is why in halo 6, I’m hoping to have sprint in a way that feels like original halo. I would want a sprint that is activated without even clicking a button. I picture it that there is no button for sprint. You move the LS as if you were just walking, but after a certain amount of distance is covered without stopping, your guy just automatically speeds up. So if I want to sprint from one side of the map to the other, I just start walking like normal, and maybe after walking about 6-7 meters without stopping, my Spartan automatic ally picks up speed. This is just my opinion. Let me know if you like this idea or not in a respectful way. Please no haters. I just think it’s a good combination for people with story and people with multiplayer
“EVERYONE”
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Your going to have to elaborate more on that statement unless you want it flagged.
Games need to evolve (ex: add sprint), or this game would end up like Madden football. Where the same game essentially gets released with minor updates to physics.
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> It honestly depends if you play halo for the game, or the story. If it’s game then you probably don’t want sprint because of the older halos. But if you play for story, sprint is a better thing. Think of being a genetically engineered super soldier that can’t run??? Doesn’t seem too super to me. Which is why in halo 6, I’m hoping to have sprint in a way that feels like original halo. I would want a sprint that is activated without even clicking a button. I picture it that there is no button for sprint. You move the LS as if you were just walking, but after a certain amount of distance is covered without stopping, your guy just automatically speeds up. So if I want to sprint from one side of the map to the other, I just start walking like normal, and maybe after walking about 6-7 meters without stopping, my Spartan automatic ally picks up speed. This is just my opinion. Let me know if you like this idea or not in a respectful way. Please no haters. I just think it’s a good combination for people with story and people with multiplayer
What if you play Halo for both game and story?
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Another bland “Halo needs to evolve” statement.
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> No dude, but as a community we’re supposed to let it evolve. What kind of bad -Yoink- spartan can’t sprint? lol doesn’t that sound dumb to you? Reach was great too and it had sprint and that was Bungie’s halo. I feel that people hate 343i just to do it even in the good aspects. I strongly dislike a lot of things 343 does but I don’t think sprint is one. idk. sue me bro. It’s just tiring seeing this. In terms of how a game feels, Halo 5’s movement mechanics make me feeeel like a spartan. They can accommodate base movement speed if they want to make it so sprinting can and should only be used as a tactic to flank fast, and not to escape. That wouldn’t make me mad. There are ways of doing this while still keeping things that make Halo 5 different. I’m an old fan and I still wanna evolve, cus to be honest even going back to older halos on MCC, it isn’t the same. You can literally say (at least for me) that nostalgia plays a big part in why we instantly reject this newer Halo. There are aspects i HATE, i won’t sit here and lie to you. Sprint just isn’t one of them for me. Spartan charge is cus it’s cheap, but sprint has been handicapped significantly since the beta. You get knocked out of sprint when you’re shot, your shields don’t recharge when sprinting, to start sprinting it takes a second after pushing the button. See these are all nerfs that were put in snekily and sadly Spartan Charge just throws it out the window. Think about it. I offer solutions cus I love this game dearly, I’m just sick of people that scream out for -Yoink- to be ripped out the game. After the sprint is taken out, these new fans will -Yoink- about thrust, stabilizers, ground pound, and everything else new, I assure you.
Have I said I wouldn’t let Halo “evolve” with the removal of sprint? Who here has said that the game can’t “evolve” with the removal of sprint?
The gameplay kind of Spartan perhaps can’t sprint? You know rule regulations that dictate how the game plays. That doesn’t sound dumb to me.
However, while we’re in on things that apparently sound dumb to you, you know, a bad -Yoink- super soldier that can’t sprint.
Tell me, how bad -Yoink- does this sound?
"Spartan X had just entered through the roof, with a loud thud he / she landed in the middle of the insurrection forces, SMG ready in hand for the CQC battle that was about to begin. The troopers surrounding the new arrived Spartan gaped in awe and shock, but quickly realised the severity of the situation. Orders were shouted, all of them ducked down behind cover, half of the troops in a semi circle remained in cover while the other half opened fire.
Spartan X quickly returned fire with his / her SMG, mowing down any visible troops as his / her shields flickered and died out.
The hailing ballistic bullets used against him / her pinged off the titanium armor and titanium enforced undersuit Spartan X was wearing, rendering him / her pretty much invulnerable to the ballistic weaponry the inssurection troops were using
The troops in cover were suddenly on their feet, with more heavy ordnance, two rocket launchers. Just as the rockets propelled against Spartan X, he / she threw herself to the floor, going into a prone position and returned fire, mowing down the rest of the troops.
Quickly coming back up on his / her feet, Spartan X made for the door, went to the left of it, back against the wall and peered around the corner to get a peak what was in the corridor."
We’re a super soldier in an advanced exoskeleton suit with titanium armor and titanium enforced undersuit, yet ballistic weapons are very effective against us.
We can’t prone or corner lean.
But I guess Sprinting gets a free pass because reasons, but not other logical things that would make us feel even more super soldiery.
I disliked sprint in Reach as much as I disliked it in Halo 4 and now, doesn’t matter who made the game.
Nostalgia plays no part in anything I dislike about Halo 5, I look at what things do, not how they worked before.
You’re only knocked out of sprint in the first second, after that you’re free to sprint off.
You don’t think others provide solutions and / or suggestions?
People here are talking for an increase in BMS instead of having sprint.
I’ve suggested plenty of times how Spartan Charge should be made instead, and could be made to work without sprint.
I’ve suggested many times how I’d like Halo to evolve, what path to take instead of the current one. Met with silence and ignorance, or alternatively “Uh it’s just Halo X with a new paint job”.
I’m sick of people yelling that if we have sprint removed it’ll be a Halo OG trilogy game, or that we’re not letting the game evolve, as if this path Halo is taking now is the only singular straight path in terms of “evolution” that Halo can take as if there is a specific goal to reach. There is no goal, there is no singular path.
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> If Halo 6 has no sprint i’m not playing it. I’m not playing the same game from -Yoinking!- middle school days. That time has come and passed. damn nostalgia tripping losers. yall will never be happy. Thats the sad part. I still have the exact SAME engagements in Halo 5 as in Halo 3. Same strafing mechanics, added the thruster is a new form of evading. Same running away when you’re one shot that has always been in Halo. Same grenade power. Same melee power (the lunge with melee is stretched given the faster movement). Truth, from previous halos, has come back and is probably my favorite given it’s expanded to fit the movement. I don’t get people in this community. What they can do is extend the radar to be able to track sprinters from an outside the 18m proximity. Maybe like, an extra 10m so you see people looking for a cheap spartan charge kill. Spartan charge can be nerfed. Maybe in its tracking. You charge too far a distance. It has the same lunge as a sword which shouldn’t be. It should be more like a shoulder ram. maybe move your spartan 3-4 ft without tracking. For Halo 6 they could maybe go back to projectile bullets instead of hitscan that way it’s harder to aim.
So removing sprint will make exact same game as what original games were, nice logic there. If that is your logic, isn’t keeping sprint makes the game same over and over? Imagine every single future Halo games containing sprint. That will be the same exact game forever. Oh yeah, to make Halo new and fresh in future, we will probably need ability to prone, use jet pack, kick, throw your weapon, grab enemy, backflip, and roll. Maybe we will need more than what I just listed.
I say sprint is great. They should keep it.
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> > > > Sprint as a mechanic in halo 4 and 5 is fun to use. I’ve wanted to be able to boost my speed since Halo CE.
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> > > > You guys keep throwing all these statistics about map size, player speed, and keeping your gun up but you keep missing the point, as I said 100 pages back: as long as you can shoot a gun, drive a vehicle, and beat someone with butt of your gun then this is still Halo, even if you can’t run and shoot all the time because that doesn’t define Halo. If you think that one mechanic makes or breaks the game then your focusing too much on it and should take a step back. It doesn’t really matter how sprint effects the pacing of the game, because it’s still operates basically the same, and no halo is 100% the same mechanically. You pick up any gun you see, drive any vehicle, and can melee with everything, sure you can’t do all of these things at once (run and shoot) but hey, it still works fundamentally.
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> > > I’ve said this 100 pages back as well - you’re not wrong (This kind of debate doesn’t really have a right/wrong, which is always the best kind amirite?) But, let me clarify my position.
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> > > When you look at the past halo games in general, the things that make halo great are the maps and gametypes. When you think of great halo maps, I find it very hard name any map from Halo Reach onward. With Sprint and thrusters, Map design is much harder because maps need to be designed so they aren’t broken by these mechanics. The maps feel bland and watered down.
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> > > The Best example I can give for this is the headlong remake, One of my top 5 halo 2 maps.
> > > The Central structure served as an excellent base for Offense/Defense based games. There were 4 main entrances - Bottom Front, Bottom Rear (Wide open), Top Front, Top Rear. The Far Left up top entrance was only accessible if you walked around the catwalk up top.
> > > In Halo 5, you can sprint/thrust your way to that back entrance from many points on that second level.
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> > > This is just one aspect of this map, there are many more that are broken with sprint/thrusters. Using the warthog is pointless because you can get from point A to point B quicker using sprint.
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> > > When you compare both of these maps as closely as you can, the main problem with the halo 5 remake is that it’s not designed for sprint.
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> > > I’m not going to sit here and say for 100% certainty that sprint is the main cause for “Maps aren’t great anymore”, but it is the one common denominator when we look at halo from a top down perspective that I can see.
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> > > If someone has other ideas why “Halo Reach/4/5 just doesn’t have that epic feel to it” that doesn’t blame sprint, please share. I’d love to discuss map design.
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> > > If Halo 6 has sprint, I’ll probably still get it and play it - but if it has spartan charge…I’m out. It’s halo’s version of the “Panic Knife” from CoD
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This, it isn’t uncommon for Spartan charge to insta-kill if you’ve taken even what you think is light damage. Add a speed boost and it’s a guaranteed kill, at least in war zone.
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We’ve had sprint for nearly a decade now. Isn’t keeping the same thing what’s going to “make halo like madden”?
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Yes, it will make Halo same forever like he said.
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I’ve read through quite a few pages here man, and most of them are people calling you idiotic. I don’t see how sprint takes away the feeling of Halo being Halo… Makes no sense to me.
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Is your quote any less bland? Its a valid concern to not want a great series to stagnate. I’m sure you could have used roughly the same amount of energy and addressed the point with a reasonable retort.
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A lot of people do, however. Halo 5 plays well, but it is a very different feeling for many people. Some dig it (I like it), some don’t.
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That’s the point of this. It gives a balance where you can still sprint to feel like a supersoldier. But it gives older halo players the feeling with not having sprint as an ability, but instead a boost for walking a bit slowly. Also it will kill the tactic where if your shield is down, you can just sprint off. If you wanna get out you have to try and start walking away and hope they miss enough shots where you can start sprinting. So most fights you have to stay and fight and you wouldn’t be able to
run away like you were able to in halo 4.
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> > > > If Halo 6 has no sprint i’m not playing it. I’m not playing the same game from -Yoinking!- middle school days. That time has come and passed. damn nostalgia tripping losers. yall will never be happy. Thats the sad part. I still have the exact SAME engagements in Halo 5 as in Halo 3. Same strafing mechanics, added the thruster is a new form of evading. Same running away when you’re one shot that has always been in Halo. Same grenade power. Same melee power (the lunge with melee is stretched given the faster movement). Truth, from previous halos, has come back and is probably my favorite given it’s expanded to fit the movement. I don’t get people in this community. What they can do is extend the radar to be able to track sprinters from an outside the 18m proximity. Maybe like, an extra 10m so you see people looking for a cheap spartan charge kill. Spartan charge can be nerfed. Maybe in its tracking. You charge too far a distance. It has the same lunge as a sword which shouldn’t be. It should be more like a shoulder ram. maybe move your spartan 3-4 ft without tracking. For Halo 6 they could maybe go back to projectile bullets instead of hitscan that way it’s harder to aim.
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Acting like what? lool so by your logic, if I don’t agree with taking out sprint then I have no reason to be here…logical lol.
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> > > > > If Halo 6 has no sprint i’m not playing it. I’m not playing the same game from -Yoinking!- middle school days. That time has come and passed. damn nostalgia tripping losers. yall will never be happy. Thats the sad part. I still have the exact SAME engagements in Halo 5 as in Halo 3. Same strafing mechanics, added the thruster is a new form of evading. Same running away when you’re one shot that has always been in Halo. Same grenade power. Same melee power (the lunge with melee is stretched given the faster movement). Truth, from previous halos, has come back and is probably my favorite given it’s expanded to fit the movement. I don’t get people in this community. What they can do is extend the radar to be able to track sprinters from an outside the 18m proximity. Maybe like, an extra 10m so you see people looking for a cheap spartan charge kill. Spartan charge can be nerfed. Maybe in its tracking. You charge too far a distance. It has the same lunge as a sword which shouldn’t be. It should be more like a shoulder ram. maybe move your spartan 3-4 ft without tracking. For Halo 6 they could maybe go back to projectile bullets instead of hitscan that way it’s harder to aim.
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Acting like a flaming hypocrite.
No, he’s saying that if you do not want to discuss the topic there is no reason for you to be here. The only thing regarding sprint you mentioned was an all cap sentence with an assumption and what can be regarded as a mocking laugh. The rest of that quoted post of yours is just an insult, and you have the exact description for your post written in there as well.
Know the saying: “Takes one to know one”?
It is entirely possible sprint gets cut in a future Halo, so claiming that they will never remove it is nothing more than a loose assumption.
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Interesting. Most of what I read have been people just saying “I like it” or something about how it will never be removed and all anti-sprinters are insert hurr-durr or butthurt something related insult here who don’t want to see the game evolve. Very few people have been providing compelling or even competent arguments on the side of pro sprint and the few reasons that have been competent we’ve already proposed solutions too and explained why it would work.
I mean yea everyone’s gonna call us stupid when they log in, read the first two comments, and post a knee jerk reply without having any consideration for discussion. Do you really think the people who aren’t even bothering to read whilst being super stubborn and the toxic people really support any kind of reasonable argument?
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> I mean yea everyone’s gonna call us stupid when they log in, read the first two comments, and post a knee jerk reply without having any consideration for discussion. Do you really think the people who aren’t even bothering to read whilst being super stubborn and the toxic people really support any kind of reasonable argument?
This is a very accurate representation of this thread sadly…
It’d be nice if we could update the OP with links to parts of this thread that have bred good discussions…but 300+ pages would be a lot to sift through. If I get bored I may give it a go. I’ll see how far I can get before my eyes bleed.