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> > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > Thoughts? :3
> >
> >
> > OH MY GOD! SHUT UP! When is someone going to have an original argument for or against sprint??
> > Why is the OPTION to sprint so upsetting to you people?? you don’t have to use it. When you purists start whining about sprint and the other abilities, you just come across as old guys afraid of change. Evolve or get left behind. I’m really getting sick of all these threads. If you’re so disgusted with Halo and the direction it’s going, stop playing it. Seriously. Stop buying it. Stop playing. Stop coming to the forums posting the same nonsense over and over. The best way to get your point across would be to round up and organize the rest of the purists and boycott the game.
>
>
> Why us “purists” don’t like sprint in Halo: Link
This guy stinks! Activate movement mode?!?! His words not mine.
For a guy who at the very beginning says he’s anti-sprint and all the other new abilities, he was sprinting, thrusting and ground pounding an awful lot.
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> > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
>
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> it improves by being able to get to a spot slightly faster? is that not the obvious answer?
Very obvious, and sometimes sprint creates disadvantages. Looking at you swat.
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> > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
> >
> >
> > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
>
>
> Sprint isn’t unnecessary or damaging. Does this make sense to you?
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> > Has anyone tested flag movement with Halo 2’s Midship vs Halo 5’s Truth?
> >
> > I’d be interested to see the times between the two with taking into account Halo 5’s ability to sprint/flag grab/boost/throw vs. the traditional jump/toss.
>
>
> You are welcome : ). Did the analysis earlier this year.
When sprinting makes an entire fan base explode…most of the people who hate sprint probably still use use it in game. Why wouldnt you run away from a guy hosing you down with an smg or assault rifle?
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> For a guy who at the very beginning says he’s anti-sprint and all the other new abilities, he was sprinting, thrusting and ground pounding an awful lot.
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> Because not using sprint in a game specifically designed around the use of sprint is putting yourself at a disadvantage. Also, using something and liking something are two entirely different pairs of shoes. I, for example, use public transportation on a daily basis, to get to work, to go grocery shopping, etc. Doesn’t mean that I enjoy sitting in a stinking, crowded bus…
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> > > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
> > >
> > >
> > > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
> >
> >
> > Sprint isn’t unnecessary or damaging. Does this make sense to you?
>
>
> Nope.
Well, maybe one day, perhaps when you play the game you’ll understand.
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> > > Has anyone tested flag movement with Halo 2’s Midship vs Halo 5’s Truth?
> > >
> > > I’d be interested to see the times between the two with taking into account Halo 5’s ability to sprint/flag grab/boost/throw vs. the traditional jump/toss.
> >
> >
> > You are welcome : ). Did the analysis earlier this year.
>
>
> Nice!
Crazy thing is FL Crysis is a monitor, and he didn’t even get listened too! WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!
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> > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
> > >
> > >
> > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
> >
> >
> > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
>
>
> Sprint isn’t unnecessary or damaging. Does this make sense to you?
Delta between BMS and Sprint speed decreased since beta
No shield recharge when sprinting
Get knocked out of sprint at build up
Getting told to not use sprint because it doesn’t make any difference
It’s nerfed from its previous iterations, and I’m told it doesn’t make any difference to not sprint. Sounds unnecessary to me.
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> > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We’ve had sprint since Reach, didn’t sprint “modernize” the previous games?
> > > >
> > > > Bloom
> > > > Loadouts
> > > > Perks
> > > > Global Ordnance
> > > > Personal Ordnance
> > > > Dual Wielding
> > > > Kill cams
> > > > Flinch
> > > >
> > > > Would like a word with you.
> >
> >
> > “Modernizing” features and mechanics that were said to be in and not go anywhere because of their “modern” status.
> > “Too deep in to remove any of them”.
> >
> > Also, as I asked, didn’t sprint “modernize” the previous games, Reach and Halo 4?
>
>
> Yes, it did. You still haven’t offered any insight, you just keep quoting what I said, and then using my quotes to quote my quote.
Look at that list, how many features were cut at some point, yet were regarded as some sort of modern feature, or necessary feature?
Sprint is yet just another feature that can at any point end up on the chopping block and meet the same fate as Dual Wielding, or Armor Abilities (which I forgot in the list), simply because the developers have a change of heart.
We’re certainly not too deep in with sprint, because any mechanic tied to it that they want to keep for the next game, can be made to function easily without sprint.
We’d get shield recharge back when moving around at optimal speed too.
But please, seeing as you disagree and think we’re too deep in, please elaborate how “we’re too deep in”.
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> > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > Thoughts? :3
>
>
> This guy stinks! Activate movement mode?!?! His words not mine.
> For a guy who at the very beginning says he’s anti-sprint and all the other new abilities, he was sprinting, thrusting and ground pounding an awful lot.
Bet there are many things you dislike doing, having or using, yet do, use or have anyway. Would you imagine.
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> > > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
> > >
> > >
> > > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
> >
> >
> > Sprint isn’t unnecessary or damaging. Does this make sense to you?
>
>
> Delta between BMS and Sprint speed decreased since beta
> No shield recharge when sprinting
> Get knocked out of sprint at build up
> Getting told to not use sprint because it doesn’t make any difference
>
> It’s nerfed from its previous iterations, and I’m told it doesn’t make any difference to not sprint. Sounds unnecessary to me.
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> > > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > We’ve had sprint since Reach, didn’t sprint “modernize” the previous games?
> > > > >
> > > > > Bloom
> > > > > Loadouts
> > > > > Perks
> > > > > Global Ordnance
> > > > > Personal Ordnance
> > > > > Dual Wielding
> > > > > Kill cams
> > > > > Flinch
> > > > >
> > > > > Would like a word with you.
> > >
> > >
> > > “Modernizing” features and mechanics that were said to be in and not go anywhere because of their “modern” status.
> > > “Too deep in to remove any of them”.
> > >
> > > Also, as I asked, didn’t sprint “modernize” the previous games, Reach and Halo 4?
> >
> >
> > Yes, it did. You still haven’t offered any insight, you just keep quoting what I said, and then using my quotes to quote my quote.
>
>
> Look at that list, how many features were cut at some point, yet were regarded as some sort of modern feature, or necessary feature?
> Sprint is yet just another feature that can at any point end up on the chopping block and meet the same fate as Dual Wielding, or Armor Abilities (which I forgot in the list), simply because the developers have a change of heart.
> We’re certainly not too deep in with sprint, because any mechanic tied to it that they want to keep for the next game, can be made to function easily without sprint.
> We’d get shield recharge back when moving around at optimal speed too.
>
> But please, seeing as you disagree and think we’re too deep in, please elaborate how “we’re too deep in”.
Were any single one of those changes implemented during the game’s lifetime? Nope
Has sprint been pruned? Nope
The developers didn’t have a change of heart, they were entirely different teams. Are you new to this?
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> Unlimited sprint should be only applied in a situation like Call of Duty, where you need a constant velocity in order to chain wall runs. Halo 5 has one dinky slide, another thruster push, and a semi-thruster push in the Spartan Charge, there is not NEED for UNLIMITED sprint; LIMITED sprint should solve the problem here.
I fully agree with this, sprint was a good idea, but it should be limeted, also, the cooldown effect should be the same in halo 5, but only shorter, if you use up all your limeted sprint capacity, the sheild recharge takes longer, that would balance alot with limeted sprint
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> > > > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
> > >
> > >
> > > Sprint isn’t unnecessary or damaging. Does this make sense to you?
> >
> >
> > Nope.
>
>
> Well, maybe one day, perhaps when you play the game you’ll understand.
You can tell me the Earth is flat and it will never make sense to me. You can feed me false information as much as you want, but it won’t ever make sense.
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> > > > > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sprint isn’t unnecessary or damaging. Does this make sense to you?
> > >
> > >
> > > Nope.
> >
> >
> > Well, maybe one day, perhaps when you play the game you’ll understand.
>
>
> You can tell me the Earth is flat and it will never make sense to me. You can feed me false information as much as you want, but it won’t ever make sense.
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> > Unlimited sprint should be only applied in a situation like Call of Duty, where you need a constant velocity in order to chain wall runs. Halo 5 has one dinky slide, another thruster push, and a semi-thruster push in the Spartan Charge, there is not NEED for UNLIMITED sprint; LIMITED sprint should solve the problem here.
>
>
> I fully agree with this, sprint was a good idea, but it should be limeted, also, the cooldown effect should be the same in halo 5, but only shorter, if you use up all your limeted sprint capacity, the sheild recharge takes longer, that would balance alot with limeted sprint
Yeah limited sprint, maybe a meter for Spartan Charge, and the other abilities.
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> > > > > > > Sprint helped modernize Halo 5 without breaking it. It’s good where it is. We are in far too deep to remove sprint.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We’re never in too deep to remove unnecessary, damaging mechanics.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Agreed. Good thing we’ll be keeping sprint then.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That doesn’t make any sense, but ok.
>
>
> Were any single one of those changes implemented during the game’s lifetime? Nope
>
> Has sprint been pruned? Nope
>
> The developers didn’t have a change of heart, they were entirely different teams. Are you new to this?
Not this game’s lifetime, but from Reach > 4 > 5 Beta > 5 retail.
You’re going to have to explain how it hasn’t been pruned over the years.
I said that the developers can have a change of heart at any time and remove sprint. They sure can, for Halo 5 all they’ve got to do is update the playlists and disable sprint, unlikely now. For Halo 6 they can leave it out of the development entirely so it never sees the day of light in Halo 6.
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> This guy stinks! Activate movement mode?!?! His words not mine.
> For a guy who at the very beginning says he’s anti-sprint and all the other new abilities, he was sprinting, thrusting and ground pounding an awful lot.
You literally cannot play Halo 5 competently without at LEAST two of these abilities. Only an idiot would completely abstain from using them, based on the fact that they have demonstrable negative impacts on the game. If he did not use them, he would still be playing Halo 5, a game designed around them and everyone else in the game would be using them. I suppose you also think that people who critique clamber should “just not use it,” thereby eliminating a significant percentage of standard jumping routes and significantly limiting their mobility. Brilliant.
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> > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > Thoughts? :3
> >
> >
> > The fact that you’re arguing on behalf of competitive Halo yet are highest ranked as a Plat 2 makes this thread a joke. (Not stat flaming or saying he’s bad, but pointing out the fact that he’s trying to speak on behalf of people who actually don’t mind the sprint innovation)
> >
> > Sprint is FINE. The reason everyone cried foul in Reach is because you could sprint away and still have your shields come back. Now, you can’t.
> >
> > Literally never heard a single pro or person on my friendslist complain/ say sprint is the reason they won’t play H5 and my FL is full of Halo Purists.
> >
> > People love finding things to cry about. 343 is -Yoink!- if they do, -Yoink!- if they don’t. No wonder they don’t come here anymore.
> >
> > As for the vets part, i’ve been playing Halo 3 since week 1. I’m a vet. And i’m thoroughly pleased with what 343 has done with H5 now that i came back and gave the game a chance.
> >
> > Edit:
> >
> > /thread.
>
>
> TeamBeyond is almost unanimously against sprint. That website is chalk full of pros/AM kids/mm legends/champs/halo vets.
That website is chalk full of 2013 50’s and ranked social HC 50 Halo purists.
As for Pros, they go on the website to address issues that they’re involved in; IE Naded making the post on how he isn’t retiring, just taking the rest of the 2016 season off.
Most of the kids on that site have never been champ in anything but SWAT, Slayer and Breakout and then if they were champ in FFA or TA it was right after resets [~2000].
All because you’re on a forum that pros are signed up on doesn’t mean you’re good. TERRIBLE misconception. Maybe if TB was invite only; but it’s not.
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> > Has anyone tested flag movement with Halo 2’s Midship vs Halo 5’s Truth?
> >
> > I’d be interested to see the times between the two with taking into account Halo 5’s ability to sprint/flag grab/boost/throw vs. the traditional jump/toss.
>
>
> You are welcome : ). Did the analysis earlier this year.