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> > > The Removal of this thread will make halo halo again.
> > > I mean seriously C’mon…who are you really trying to convince? I tell you what!.. is not working.
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> > Then we need to try harder, this thread isn’t dying anytime soon. If h6 comes out and still has sprint this will get moved to the h6 section, it will probably pass the elite thread before h6 comes out.
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> How do we try harder?
Keep on this thread, keep providing solid and statistic based claims showing why halo dosn’t need sprint
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> Looks to me like more people want sprint, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to stay in no matter how many times people say it will make “halo halo again”.
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> So can we please stop this? It’s pointless.
No, because we actually have a grievance. You can ignore this thread, but I’m not going to stop because you think it is pointless. As a matter of fact I’m just going to start reporting all these nonsensical comments. Seriously is it really so hard to not click on this thread? Clearly some of us care. If you don’t care enough to refute or support points in this thread why are you even on it and making requests of us?
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> > > > The Removal of this thread will make halo halo again.
> > > > I mean seriously C’mon…who are you really trying to convince? I tell you what!.. is not working.
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> > > Then we need to try harder, this thread isn’t dying anytime soon. If h6 comes out and still has sprint this will get moved to the h6 section, it will probably pass the elite thread before h6 comes out.
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> > How do we try harder?
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> Keep on this thread, keep providing solid and statistic based claims showing why halo dosn’t need sprint
I understand all that. but who’s to say that there isn’t enough claims on this thread already. We need someone who has direct contact with 343 to present all this and see what they actually say. otherwise there will never be a solution for this. We can argue amongst ourselves all day everyday but will never come to a conclusion as a group because we are brain washed to be selfish!!! PLUS no one here has access to make adjustment to the game.
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> > > > > The Removal of this thread will make halo halo again.
> > > > > I mean seriously C’mon…who are you really trying to convince? I tell you what!.. is not working.
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> > > > Then we need to try harder, this thread isn’t dying anytime soon. If h6 comes out and still has sprint this will get moved to the h6 section, it will probably pass the elite thread before h6 comes out.
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> > > How do we try harder?
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> > Keep on this thread, keep providing solid and statistic based claims showing why halo dosn’t need sprint
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> I understand all that. but who’s to say that there isn’t enough claims on this thread already. We need someone who has direct contact with 343 to present all this and see what they actually say. otherwise there will never be a solution for this. We can argue amongst ourselves all day everyday but will never come to a conclusion as a group because we are brain washed to be selfish!!! PLUS no one here has access to make adjustment to the game.
But that’s what the forums are for. For these discussions as well as other ones. Just because 343 doesn’t often check their own forums (which is extremely irritating) it doesn’t mean we can’t have a thoughtful discussion and try to work out compromises that we can agree on.
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> > > > > > > > Of course most of them don’t complain about sprint. They’re playing the game (I’d also imagine most don’t use mic either), so obviously they don’t mind that much. Sprint has been a talked about issue for years and the single most controversial issue ever in the franchise. You know why you don’t hear so many people complaining anymore? They got fed up and moved on, hence the lowest sales in the series and a low population. You must be new the forums if you think this was never a big deal.
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> > > > > > > You’re making an assumption that the forum population is at all a reflection of the total population of people who buy Halo games. Consider that the forums are likely biased towards people who have problems with the game because people who don’t have problems are less likely to go to forums.
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> > > > > > > Another completely unjustifiable assumption you are making is that sprint is the reason Halo has become less popular. Since sprint was introduced in Reach, there have been dozens of other things that could’ve contributed to player disappointment including other new gameplay mechanics, changes in campaign, and game customization options. It’s completely impossible to attribute the decrease in popularity to any single thing.
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> > > > > > I’m not assuming anything. It’s the opposite side saying sprint isn’t as big an issue as we’re making it out to be. They’re the ones putting forth assumptions. My argument doesn’t live or die based on how big a problem people find sprint. Others bring it up as a straw man because they have nothing to actually argue with or support their point. If they did, that - and only that - would be what they present.
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> > > > > So, did I interpret your comment wrong? You’re not implying in the quoted post that sprint is the main reason people got fed up and moved on? If not, then that’s my bad.
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> > > > No you didn’t interpret wrong @tsassi… Many of those hardcore anti-sprinters do everything they can in order to try and make it appear that sprint is supposedly a much larger issue than it actually is… When backed into a corner like that they’ll change the subject and try to focus on something else. They’re trying their best to over represent their issue with Halo in an attempt to instigate the change they want see…
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> > it is not opinion to say the sky is purple, so far as we’re differentiating between fact and opinion. It is simply factually incorrect.
> > Opinion is an issue of preference. While facts may be used in the formation of an opinion, the notion that sprint is bad for halo is opinion. You cannot prove it… at least not with the access we have. It would have to be shown that the inclusion of sprint was responsible for poor sales/ratings/population… but that isnt going to happen. There are myriad reasons why halo is not fps #1 these days.
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> By definition an opinion does not require facts, therefore it can not be factually incorrect. But basically my point is if you can’t back up your opinion with anything other than it being your opinion then it dosen’t really matter
there are multiple meanings for words. if you’re talking fact vs opinion then opinion is preference. if you want to use the word opinion in a more general sense, then yes, opinion simply means what one thinks or believes, as in the opinions written by judges concerning a court ruling. Facts play a big part of these opinions.
this is why I qualified my statement by saying “so far as we’re differentiating between fact and opinion.”
but not being able to back up an opinion on sprint doesnt make it irrelevant. As a consumer do I need to explain why I enjoy something? If sprint makes me enjoy H5 more than before the only explaining I need to do is with my wallet. These kinds of opinions are what polls are all about. 343 can run the polls, compile stats, and use them to create a game that sells. The sale is what matters. And given the install-base of the xbone I dont see how H5 has sold poorly. It made money, and will probably lead to a similar sequel with just enough change so 343 can tout how much they’ve listened.
And guven 343’s track record I expect h6 to be pretty good. H4 had a lot going for it, despite the extreme mess it was, and got better with updates. H5 is solid, despite its flaws, better than 4 by a ton. I think h6 will continue the trend. I cant say if it will have sprint or not.
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> > > > > > The Removal of this thread will make halo halo again.
> > > > > > I mean seriously C’mon…who are you really trying to convince? I tell you what!.. is not working.
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> > > > > Then we need to try harder, this thread isn’t dying anytime soon. If h6 comes out and still has sprint this will get moved to the h6 section, it will probably pass the elite thread before h6 comes out.
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> > > > How do we try harder?
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> > > Keep on this thread, keep providing solid and statistic based claims showing why halo dosn’t need sprint
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> > I understand all that. but who’s to say that there isn’t enough claims on this thread already. We need someone who has direct contact with 343 to present all this and see what they actually say. otherwise there will never be a solution for this. We can argue amongst ourselves all day everyday but will never come to a conclusion as a group because we are brain washed to be selfish!!! PLUS no one here has access to make adjustment to the game.
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> But that’s what the forums are for. For these discussions as well as other ones. Just because 343 doesn’t often check their own forums (which is extremely irritating) it doesn’t mean we can’t have a thoughtful discussion and try to work out compromises that we can agree on.
But once we do agree on something…what then? we need to put this -Yoink- on their(343) lap, HOW? should be the question…all we are doing now is dancing and beating around the bush. Lets knock down their doors!!!Raid style.
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> > Looks to me like more people want sprint, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to stay in no matter how many times people say it will make “halo halo again”.
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> > So can we please stop this? It’s pointless.
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> No, because we actually have a grievance. You can ignore this thread, but I’m not going to stop because you think it is pointless. As a matter of fact I’m just going to start reporting all these nonsensical comments. Seriously is it really so hard to not click on this thread? Clearly some of us care. If you don’t care enough to refute or support points in this thread why are you even on it and making requests of us?
You may have a grievance but your problem does not represent the whole community.
Nonsensical comments? I thought we can all come here and express our views on the matter.
Actually yes, it is hard not to click on it. You know why? Because people are massively complaining about something that is widely supported in the community and shows no signs of going away. Yet if enough people keep doing this, a feature that I and many others like very much might get taken away. So yes, I will come here and I will give my view on the situation because I have that right because threads like this might change future installments in the series for the worse.
I’ve made my points days ago. Not just on this thread but only plenty of others that bring up the exact same complaint.
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> > > > I mean seriously C’mon…who are you really trying to convince? I tell you what!.. is not working.
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> > > Then we need to try harder, this thread isn’t dying anytime soon. If h6 comes out and still has sprint this will get moved to the h6 section, it will probably pass the elite thread before h6 comes out.
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> > How do we try harder?
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> Keep on this thread, keep providing solid and statistic based claims showing why halo dosn’t need sprint
there are no stat based claims. Sprint was accommodated for in this halo, they did a good job with defining the maps for it.
I don’t get how people are so dense on this subject. Sprint being removed would only appeal to the so-called Halo-vets. Simultaneously, it would just further diminish the declining player base because the typical gamer expects sprint now. That’s an unavoidable fact.
People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
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> People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
You do realise that two of the top 3 most played FPS games this year do not have sprint right?
Keeping a mechanic that makes your game play objectively worse in order to keep up with the imaginary jones is not a good way to design a game.
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> > People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
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> You do realise that two of the top 3 most played FPS games this year do not have sprint right?
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> Keeping a mechanic that makes your game play objectively worse in order to keep up with the imaginary jones is not a good way to design a game.
Not sure what games you’re referring to, but if one is Overwatch, that game got insanely stale quick and will die out soon. Multiplatform changes things a bit.
And it’s not objectively worse… it’s subjectively worse to some.
The way sprint currently is makes for an interesting trade off because of how the shields operate. Frankly, a lot of people sprint too much and would probably play far better without it. It adds another layer of strategy. H2 and H3 were great for the time, but they also had half as much competition, if that. Times change.
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> > > I don’t get how people are so dense on this subject. Sprint being removed would only appeal to the so-called Halo-vets. Simultaneously, it would just further diminish the declining player base because the typical gamer expects sprint now. That’s an unavoidable fact.
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> > > People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
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> > You do realise that two of the top 3 most played FPS games this year do not have sprint right?
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> > Keeping a mechanic that makes your game play objectively worse in order to keep up with the imaginary jones is not a good way to design a game.
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> Not sure what games you’re referring to, but if one is Overwatch, that game got insanely stale quick and will die out soon. Multiplatform changes things a bit.
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> And it’s not objectively worse… it’s subjectively worse to some.
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> The way sprint currently is makes for an interesting trade off because of how the shields operate. Frankly, a lot of people sprint too much and would probably play far better without it. It adds another layer of strategy. H2 and H3 were great for the time, but they also had half as much competition, if that. Times change.
Please explain to me how h5 has more competition than h3 did. Outside of destiny and mine craft all I see competing against h5 is sequels to games that h3 competed against. Add to that several IPs that h3 competed against that no longer exist.
As the price of AAA development has risen we’ve seen the frequency of AAA Gane releases lower .We’ve also seen developers become more and more reluctant to take risks resulting in fewer groundbreaking games.
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> > > > > > Then we need to try harder, this thread isn’t dying anytime soon. If h6 comes out and still has sprint this will get moved to the h6 section, it will probably pass the elite thread before h6 comes out.
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> > > > Keep on this thread, keep providing solid and statistic based claims showing why halo dosn’t need sprint
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> > > I understand all that. but who’s to say that there isn’t enough claims on this thread already. We need someone who has direct contact with 343 to present all this and see what they actually say. otherwise there will never be a solution for this. We can argue amongst ourselves all day everyday but will never come to a conclusion as a group because we are brain washed to be selfish!!! PLUS no one here has access to make adjustment to the game.
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> > But that’s what the forums are for. For these discussions as well as other ones. Just because 343 doesn’t often check their own forums (which is extremely irritating) it doesn’t mean we can’t have a thoughtful discussion and try to work out compromises that we can agree on.
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> But once we do agree on something…what then? we need to put this -Yoink- on their(343) lap, HOW? should be the question…all we are doing now is dancing and beating around the bush. Lets knock down their doors!!!Raid style.
343 know about the issues with sprint, they’ve even made their own statements on why it was implemented to begin with and I’m sure you wouldn’t like their reasons. In short, “it’s expected” is one of their quotes. The issue is 1. 343 simply could care less if it actually is hurting the game 2. They may not see it and therefore running blind and 3. They’re to stubborn to listen and are going to continue forcing their version of halo until they’re absolutely forced to or risk having the franchise shut down. The only other thing I could point up is maybe sprint isn’t the main issue and that too could be why 343 continues adding it, the thing is there’s way to many things to take into account for halos downfall and it really can’t be pin pointed at sprint. Armor abilities have also been a constant, continuously adding more new guns to the sandbox making it more redundant, then there’s the new art style changes game by game, and downgrades in features. H4 may have been bad but it’s UI and such were still better than h5s at least. H5 has taken “downgrade” to a whole new level if you ask me.
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> People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
Looks at Overwatch and CS GO’s insane popularity as well as DOOM’s massive amount of popularity and praise for not having/emphasizing sprint, sighs heavily. Also another go play the MCC dismissal…maybe I’ll just go grab a whiteboard to keep track of all of these.
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> > People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
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> You do realise that two of the top 3 most played FPS games this year do not have sprint right?
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> Keeping a mechanic that makes your game play objectively worse in order to keep up with the imaginary jones is not a good way to design a game.
Keeping up with the Jones’ is unhealthy in every way you look at it.
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> > > Looks to me like more people want sprint, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to stay in no matter how many times people say it will make “halo halo again”.
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> > > So can we please stop this? It’s pointless.
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> > No, because we actually have a grievance. You can ignore this thread, but I’m not going to stop because you think it is pointless. As a matter of fact I’m just going to start reporting all these nonsensical comments. Seriously is it really so hard to not click on this thread? Clearly some of us care. If you don’t care enough to refute or support points in this thread why are you even on it and making requests of us?
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> You may have a grievance but your problem does not represent the whole community.
> Nonsensical comments? I thought we can all come here and express our views on the matter.
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> Actually yes, it is hard not to click on it. You know why? Because people are massively complaining about something that is widely supported in the community and shows no signs of going away. Yet if enough people keep doing this, a feature that I and many others like very much might get taken away. So yes, I will come here and I will give my view on the situation because I have that right because threads like this might change future installments in the series for the worse.
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> I’ve made my points days ago. Not just on this thread but only plenty of others that bring up the exact same complaint.
Yet you expect people who dislike it and bring good points and remedies for its removal to stop talking because you like it? Hmmm funny, ever wonder how the antisprint crowd feels? Because this thread is kinda the response to that rhetorical question…I’ve never said we represent the whole community. I’ve only said that I think going forward with no sprint and a couple of changes I feel would help the gameplay be more fluid and fun while not slowing it down.
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> Looks to me like more people want sprint, and I’m pretty sure it’s going to stay in no matter how many times people say it will make “halo halo again”.
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> So can we please stop this? It’s pointless.
Well stated… Couldn’t agree any more with you. I hope the anti sprinters can at the very least stop aggressively criticizing people who enjoy sprint… It’s for the good of the community to respect everyone’s viewpoints and opinions so we can break the “toxic community,” stereotype that such a mentality breeds.
They probably won’t stop, however… Vocal minorities like this have an agenda to over represent their issue in an attempt to instigate the change they want to see. If they continue to make this thread grow, then they’re succeeding in their intent to attempt to make it appear to be a bigger issue than it really is, at least… Whether or not it has any effect whatsoever is another story. But I hate to see these anti sprinters tell people their opinions are worthless because they don’t have “evidence,” to support why they personally enjoy sprint… Evidence is all good and fine to enhance a debate, but come on anti sprinters… Really? Somebody absolutely needs to provide evidence in order to support their opinion regarding how much they enjoy a facet of the game? Otherwise their opinion is supposedly worthless? Smh…
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> > > > People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
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> > > You do realise that two of the top 3 most played FPS games this year do not have sprint right?
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> > > Keeping a mechanic that makes your game play objectively worse in order to keep up with the imaginary jones is not a good way to design a game.
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> > Not sure what games you’re referring to, but if one is Overwatch, that game got insanely stale quick and will die out soon. Multiplatform changes things a bit.
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> > And it’s not objectively worse… it’s subjectively worse to some.
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> > The way sprint currently is makes for an interesting trade off because of how the shields operate. Frankly, a lot of people sprint too much and would probably play far better without it. It adds another layer of strategy. H2 and H3 were great for the time, but they also had half as much competition, if that. Times change.
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> Please explain to me how h5 has more competition than h3 did. Outside of destiny and mine craft all I see competing against h5 is sequels to games that h3 competed against. Add to that several IPs that h3 competed against that no longer exist.
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> As the price of AAA development has risen we’ve seen the frequency of AAA Gane releases lower .We’ve also seen developers become more and more reluctant to take risks resulting in fewer groundbreaking games.
Seriously, just start with H2. It basically created matchmaking as we know it, and revolutionized online play for consoles. After all that, of course H3 would have a strong buyer base. FPS that competed with H3 were essentially COD. That’s about it. I can’t recall any other game that I saw friends abandoning H3 for at the time.
There were other games that failed quick, but pretty much nothing else. H5 is competing with COD which has now become a -Yoinking!- juggernaut, Battlefield, Destiny, Fallout, and plenty of games with short term success like DOOM and Overwatch, and the fact that online multiplayer is now the norm, and competition is a bit tougher.
On top of all this, Halo’s original audience is getting older and older. People, like myself, who were just children when Halo came out are now adults who typically have less time to play. The younger audience is what keeps these games alive. As much as people hate on so-called “squeakers” they’re a gigantic player base, and the majority of them expect sprint.
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> > > > > People have this stupid misconception that Halo’s been declining because of added features, but the reality is that they’re the only thing keeping the franchise alive to compete against the much larger ocean of FPS competition now. Nostalgia’s great, but go play MCC if you want it. H2 was my favorite game of all time, but I can still see the reality.
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> > > And it’s not objectively worse… it’s subjectively worse to some.
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> > > The way sprint currently is makes for an interesting trade off because of how the shields operate. Frankly, a lot of people sprint too much and would probably play far better without it. It adds another layer of strategy. H2 and H3 were great for the time, but they also had half as much competition, if that. Times change.
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> > Please explain to me how h5 has more competition than h3 did. Outside of destiny and mine craft all I see competing against h5 is sequels to games that h3 competed against. Add to that several IPs that h3 competed against that no longer exist.
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> > As the price of AAA development has risen we’ve seen the frequency of AAA Gane releases lower .We’ve also seen developers become more and more reluctant to take risks resulting in fewer groundbreaking games.
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> Seriously, just start with H2. It basically created matchmaking as we know it, and revolutionized online play for consoles. After all that, of course H3 would have a strong buyer base. FPS that competed with H3 were essentially COD. That’s about it. I can’t recall any other game that I saw friends abandoning H3 for at the time.
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> There were other games that failed quick, but pretty much nothing else. H5 is competing with COD which has now become a -Yoinking!- juggernaut, Battlefield, Destiny, Fallout, and plenty of games with short term success like DOOM and Overwatch, and the fact that online multiplayer is now the norm, and competition is a bit tougher.
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> On top of all this, Halo’s original audience is getting older and older. People, like myself, who were just children when Halo came out are now adults who typically have less time to play. The younger audience is what keeps these games alive. As much as people hate on so-called “squeakers” they’re a gigantic player base, and the majority of them expect sprint.
MW2 and MW3 outsold the COD games h5 is competing against. Fallout and battlefield were around when h3 was out. Neither doom or overwatch are all that successful on xbox meaning h5 isn’t competing agonist the bulk of thier player bases. These games are offset by games like TF2 that existed during the days of h3.
Studies have shown that the average gamer is like 30 or something like that.
You’re making excuses that just don’t hold up.
Halo is declining because it has become generic. People don’t go crazy for generic products.