The sprint discussion thread

I’m not pro or anti sprint, if they took sprint out of halo tomorrow I would still play it because I disagree with the emphasis that is put on sprint especially with the title of this thread, Halo for me isn’t defined by one mechanic, even starts, map control, accuracy, high TTK, power weapons and power ups, they are all still present in Halo 5.

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> Sprint is a mainstream of games today.

That’s what happens, compare Quack/Doom/Unreal in their time. They all emulated each other in some way. Your going to see mainstream ideas come to any franchise, but then your also going to see its own unique way of implimenting it.

Halo 5 did that, every game has a new way of movement (cough couch COD/Titanfall) I mean Halo 5 has sprint and a quick boost/Hover mechanic. They did it in a way that gives more freedom of movement but with out selling out (like COD).

Halo is still a game that stands on its own, and is still staying true to its fundamentals.

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> Sprint is a mainstream of games today.

So what? Why should I care whether something is mainstream or not?

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO.

I DONT WANT TO GO BACK TO REACH WHEN IT WAS AN ABILITY.

Screw that idea.

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> > > This argument is becoming pointless no ones going to listen and nothing’s going to change unless the community can come together and agree on a solution that satisfies both parties.
> > > Yet again -Yoink!- off another section of the fanbase to appease the other isn’t the answer, and that line of thinking isn’t going to get us anywhere.
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> > But that is what likely is going to happen. If sprint dose get removed, you are alienating part of the community that likes having it. Your never going to make everyone happy New and Old players alike. But this is such a heated topic that now that the Genie is out of the bottle; this debate will continue.
> > I’m an old Halo player that likes sprint; but I don’t like how it functions. Some sort of middle ground dose needs to be obtained.
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> I agree, I’ve seen anti sprint people even reject the idea of a classic playlist, because the game shouldn’t have sprint, end of. That train of thought hasn’t gotten them anywhere the last 5 years why would it now. It needs a proper discussion not this is why, this is my opinion, and that’s it. Like you say a middle ground needs to be found.

Classic playlists are not a middle ground. It’s a cop-out idea because weapons are being balanced and maps designed with sprint in mind. Classic gametypes play like -Yoink- on them, so all maps in such a playlist need to be forge maps which gets stale pretty quick. That’s nothing more than throwing a huge part of the community a gnawed-off bone so they don’t leave for good. (Which, by the way, didn’t work.)

It doesn’t help either that all “classic” playlists that we’ve gotten until now have been anything but. Reach Anniversary still had bloom and loadouts, Halo 4 “classic” even had sprint.

By the way, the train of thought that sprint sucks has gotten us to 343 nerfing the hell out of sprint by tying it to shields and adding a knockback when shot. Complaining about broken mechanics got rid of dual wielding, loadouts, armor abilities, bloom, etc. And seeing how H5Gs population and sales plummetted even compared to Halo 4 while at the same time sprintless shooters are on the rise again (And remember, 343 likes to copy what’s popular), we’re basically as close to removal as never before.

On a final note, I really don’t care what they do with multiplayer. The could reduce the game to one weapon, one map, have blue team walk on the ceiling and moonwalking be the only movement option for all I care. I want sprint gone from campaign. So unless they ditch that mechanic in singleplayer or at the very least introduce custom settings to campaign, I’m not buying a single Halo game ever again, classic playlist or not.

I actually like Sprint.

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> > > > This argument is becoming pointless no ones going to listen and nothing’s going to change unless the community can come together and agree on a solution that satisfies both parties.
> > > > Yet again -Yoink!- off another section of the fanbase to appease the other isn’t the answer, and that line of thinking isn’t going to get us anywhere.
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> > > But that is what likely is going to happen. If sprint dose get removed, you are alienating part of the community that likes having it. Your never going to make everyone happy New and Old players alike. But this is such a heated topic that now that the Genie is out of the bottle; this debate will continue.
> > > I’m an old Halo player that likes sprint; but I don’t like how it functions. Some sort of middle ground dose needs to be obtained.
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> > I agree, I’ve seen anti sprint people even reject the idea of a classic playlist, because the game shouldn’t have sprint, end of. That train of thought hasn’t gotten them anywhere the last 5 years why would it now. It needs a proper discussion not this is why, this is my opinion, and that’s it. Like you say a middle ground needs to be found.
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> Classic playlists are not a middle ground. It’s a cop-out idea because weapons are being balanced and maps designed with sprint in mind. Classic gametypes play like -Yoink- on them, so all maps in such a playlist need to be forge maps which gets stale pretty quick. That’s nothing more than throwing a huge part of the community a gnawed-off bone so they don’t leave for good. (Which, by the way, didn’t work.)
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> It doesn’t help either that all “classic” playlists that we’ve gotten until now have been anything but. Reach Anniversary still had bloom and loadouts, Halo 4 “classic” even had sprint.
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> By the way, the train of thought that sprint sucks has gotten us to 343 nerfing the hell out of sprint by tying it to shields and adding a knockback when shot. Complaining about broken mechanics got rid of dual wielding, loadouts, armor abilities, bloom, etc. And seeing how H5Gs population and sales plummetted even compared to Halo 4 while at the same time sprintless shooters are on the rise again (And remember, 343 likes to copy what’s popular), we’re basically as close to removal as never before.
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> On a final note, I really don’t care what they do with multiplayer. The could reduce the game to one weapon, one map, have blue team walk on the ceiling and moonwalking be the only movement option for all I care. I want sprint gone from campaign. So unless they ditch that mechanic in singleplayer or at the very least introduce custom settings to campaign, I’m not buying a single Halo game ever again, classic playlist or not.

…If Sprint in campaign is your reason for boycotting…that has to be the dumbest reason to boycott that I have seen yet, Their are issues with the campaign but sprint is probably the smallest of the small issues compared to everything else. If 343 was really copying what was popular, we would be Jumping 15 feet in the air and wall running. Sprint in campaign vs MP is a really a non issue compared to gameplay…I remember doing “Ark” in Halo 3 begging for one because of how ungodly long it took to run to finish it. A simple solution for no sprint in campaign is obvious…dont do it.

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> Yet again -Yoink!- off another section of the fanbase to appease the other isn’t the answer, and that line of thinking isn’t going to get us anywhere.

Most people can’t even think of a positive effect it has on the actual gameplay that can’t be accomplished in a better way. As such, most of them won’t be pissed off because they probably won’t even notice a difference.

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> > > > This argument is becoming pointless no ones going to listen and nothing’s going to change unless the community can come together and agree on a solution that satisfies both parties.
> > > > Yet again -Yoink!- off another section of the fanbase to appease the other isn’t the answer, and that line of thinking isn’t going to get us anywhere.
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> > > But that is what likely is going to happen. If sprint dose get removed, you are alienating part of the community that likes having it. Your never going to make everyone happy New and Old players alike. But this is such a heated topic that now that the Genie is out of the bottle; this debate will continue.
> > > I’m an old Halo player that likes sprint; but I don’t like how it functions. Some sort of middle ground dose needs to be obtained.
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> > I agree, I’ve seen anti sprint people even reject the idea of a classic playlist, because the game shouldn’t have sprint, end of. That train of thought hasn’t gotten them anywhere the last 5 years why would it now. It needs a proper discussion not this is why, this is my opinion, and that’s it. Like you say a middle ground needs to be found.
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> Classic playlists are not a middle ground. It’s a cop-out idea because weapons are being balanced and maps designed with sprint in mind. Classic gametypes play like -Yoink- on them, so all maps in such a playlist need to be forge maps which gets stale pretty quick. That’s nothing more than throwing a huge part of the community a gnawed-off bone so they don’t leave for good. (Which, by the way, didn’t work.)
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> It doesn’t help either that all “classic” playlists that we’ve gotten until now have been anything but. Reach Anniversary still had bloom and loadouts, Halo 4 “classic” even had sprint.
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> By the way, the train of thought that sprint sucks has gotten us to 343 nerfing the hell out of sprint by tying it to shields and adding a knockback when shot. Complaining about broken mechanics got rid of dual wielding, loadouts, armor abilities, bloom, etc. And seeing how H5Gs population and sales plummetted even compared to Halo 4 while at the same time sprintless shooters are on the rise again (And remember, 343 likes to copy what’s popular), we’re basically as close to removal as never before.
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> On a final note, I really don’t care what they do with multiplayer. The could reduce the game to one weapon, one map, have blue team walk on the ceiling and moonwalking be the only movement option for all I care. I want sprint gone from campaign. So unless they ditch that mechanic in singleplayer or at the very least introduce custom settings to campaign, I’m not buying a single Halo game ever again, classic playlist or not.

Single player ? Really ? I can get the arguments for multiplayer but you could play the entire campaign without even engaging sprint already.

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> I’ve always wondered about this. Would not having sprint generate as much controversy as having it? I can’t think of a situation where something like this would’ve happened. Armor abilities, bloom, personal ordnance, all had their defenders when these mechanics were around. But since these mechanics were removed, there has practically been no discussion around them. I’ve seen some people asking bloom back, some suggestions of reintroducing armor abilities, but those never seem to go anywhere.
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I think in I have seen maybe one or two threads asking to bring back the jetpack get shot down swiftly and never really gain traction. Same with armor lock although a couple of those threads were troll threads. Overall though I’ve noticed the same thing, now that I think about it. People who hated Halo 4 actually kind of liked it in the MCC if they hated it before because of most lists being legendary slayer and making static classes with no AAs and no ordinance.

Before Halo had sprint a lot of people asked for it, but at the same time anyone who really enjoyed the game didn’t leave it because of no sprint.

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> > > > You lazy -Yoinks!-! What’s wrong with sprinting? Oh poor me, I just want to walk around and shoot easy targets so I don’t have to break a sweat, whah! Get some actual exercise. You’re Spartans will thank you for it. Besides, sometimes my Spartan has to go #2 really bad and believe me, if he couldn’t sprint those vehicle splatters would be a whole lot messier!
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> > > I’m hopping this is all sarcasm.
> > > If, and only if, it’s not, sprint isn’t tied to my skill. I’m good at Halo 5. Heck I was good in Halo reach and Halo 4 and both of those games had sprint. It’s that I feel super slow when I decide to shoot or throw nades. I’m moving on this huge 4v4 map in snail pace while giving back up fire to my teammates. If I take even a little fire, I can’t move faster on this huge map because my shields are tied to this sprinting mechanics, thus I must continue to move slow on a huge map. Also when I want to jump sideways up a obstacle or a doorway and still shoot someone, I can’t! I must turn, sometimes even start sprinting, jump and 99% of the time clamber the obstacle up.
> > > Inb4 Halo needs sprint to keep up with competition, fast pace wroom wroom, I’m super spartan I must be able to sprint.
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> > Mostly sarcasm but I do like sprint. It suites the maps and gameplay. I like all the abilities except Spartan charge. If you don’t like to sprint than don’t. I don’t when I play SWaT. All these abilities make the game much more skillful. Map movement, when to sprint and not to sprint, high jumps that not everyone can do without a little practice. So you prefer smaller maps and no sprint? Halo 3 might be the game for you. Halo 5 is the game for me and yes, sprint is tied to your skill in Halo 5! Peace, homey!
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> Jesus Christ, do they produce you guys somewhere in factory, why are you all saying the same thing? If you don’t like to sprint then don’t sprint. facepalm Do you understand this sentence: Maps and gameplay are build around sprint speed. There. Didn’t think so. Why should you? Some jumps absolutely need sprint, also you think clamber makes the game more skillful, more than perfect timing and crouch jumping? Clamber, a mechanic that ensures you will make every jump or ledge even if your timing is totally off? Oh homey, you and I have different view about skill.
> Halo 3 might be the game for me? Yes it was, also to several million other people who enjoyed that sort of gameplay. Halo 5? Not so much.
> Look at my stats and get back to me saying that sprint is tied to skill or that it is hard to learn therefore a skillful mechanic. It’s been 6 years. We all learned how to or when to use it. This is not about that. I can’t not use it. The maps are made for it. I’d be left behind. Does it enhance the gameplay? Not for me and millions of others who have moved on to other games. This is all imho.

If you’ve moved on then why are you still here? Do they produce me in a factory? Likewise. Funny how there are 2 sides to this. Some like it some don’t. Some have embraced the abilities and some can’t let go of the past. We’re not talking about Spartan charging, it’s sprint. And no, you can’t just use sprint and clamber to make every jump. But hey, what do you care? You’ve moved on. Just not far enough. Hopefully by the time you read this you will have moved far enough away that I can’t hear you anymore but your probably like the rest of the nostalgic complainers always coming back to chime in on a game you’ve given up on. This didn’t release last month. It’s almost been a year now, yet you’re still here. You’re still here. Please, go away.

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It wouldn’t, You’d have faster base movement speed and sprint wouldn’t even be in the game, at least that’s what a lot of people here are arguing. No one really wants AAs to come back. They were stupid in Reach and a complete joke in Halo 4 with how some of them were balanced.

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Hipster gam3r5, bruh…

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> > > > > You lazy -Yoinks!-! What’s wrong with sprinting? Oh poor me, I just want to walk around and shoot easy targets so I don’t have to break a sweat, whah! Get some actual exercise. You’re Spartans will thank you for it. Besides, sometimes my Spartan has to go #2 really bad and believe me, if he couldn’t sprint those vehicle splatters would be a whole lot messier!
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> > > > I’m hopping this is all sarcasm.
> > > > If, and only if, it’s not, sprint isn’t tied to my skill. I’m good at Halo 5. Heck I was good in Halo reach and Halo 4 and both of those games had sprint. It’s that I feel super slow when I decide to shoot or throw nades. I’m moving on this huge 4v4 map in snail pace while giving back up fire to my teammates. If I take even a little fire, I can’t move faster on this huge map because my shields are tied to this sprinting mechanics, thus I must continue to move slow on a huge map. Also when I want to jump sideways up a obstacle or a doorway and still shoot someone, I can’t! I must turn, sometimes even start sprinting, jump and 99% of the time clamber the obstacle up.
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> > > > Inb4 Halo needs sprint to keep up with competition, fast pace wroom wroom, I’m super spartan I must be able to sprint.
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> > > Mostly sarcasm but I do like sprint. It suites the maps and gameplay. I like all the abilities except Spartan charge. If you don’t like to sprint than don’t. I don’t when I play SWaT. All these abilities make the game much more skillful. Map movement, when to sprint and not to sprint, high jumps that not everyone can do without a little practice. So you prefer smaller maps and no sprint? Halo 3 might be the game for you. Halo 5 is the game for me and yes, sprint is tied to your skill in Halo 5! Peace, homey!
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> > Jesus Christ, do they produce you guys somewhere in factory, why are you all saying the same thing? If you don’t like to sprint then don’t sprint. facepalm Do you understand this sentence: Maps and gameplay are build around sprint speed. There. Didn’t think so. Why should you? Some jumps absolutely need sprint, also you think clamber makes the game more skillful, more than perfect timing and crouch jumping? Clamber, a mechanic that ensures you will make every jump or ledge even if your timing is totally off? Oh homey, you and I have different view about skill.
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> > Look at my stats and get back to me saying that sprint is tied to skill or that it is hard to learn therefore a skillful mechanic. It’s been 6 years. We all learned how to or when to use it. This is not about that. I can’t not use it. The maps are made for it. I’d be left behind. Does it enhance the gameplay? Not for me and millions of others who have moved on to other games. This is all imho.
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> If you’ve moved on then why are you still here? Do they produce me in a factory? Likewise. Funny how there are 2 sides to this. Some like it some don’t. Some have embraced the abilities and some can’t let go of the past. We’re not talking about Spartan charging, it’s sprint. And no, you can’t just use sprint and clamber to make every jump. But hey, what do you care? You’ve moved on. Just not far enough. Hopefully by the time you read this you will have moved far enough away that I can’t hear you anymore but your probably like the rest of the nostalgic complainers always coming back to chime in on a game you’ve given up on. This didn’t release last month. It’s almost been a year now, yet you’re still here. You’re still here. Please, go away.

It’s because he’s passionate about the series. I don’t agree with the whole factory thing, but hey I am not him, but telling someone to go away and stop commenting because he doesn’t like the game and moved on to something else is a little shallow. Granted I rarely play Halo 5 competitively if at all anymore. I am still allowed to have an opinion on the game if I bought and played it and I will chime the “nostalgia bell” because that’s what you do with series and sequels. You compare them to each other and see what you liked and what you didn’t. Maybe rather than going for ad hominem there you could respect his point and the fact that he still played the game and has a legitimate opinion and argue his points rather than tell him to go away and lumped him and, inadvertently, a lot of other people on this forum like myself in together into a group.

If anyone needs to go away, it is you and your crappy attitude.

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> > > > > If, and only if, it’s not, sprint isn’t tied to my skill. I’m good at Halo 5. Heck I was good in Halo reach and Halo 4 and both of those games had sprint. It’s that I feel super slow when I decide to shoot or throw nades. I’m moving on this huge 4v4 map in snail pace while giving back up fire to my teammates. If I take even a little fire, I can’t move faster on this huge map because my shields are tied to this sprinting mechanics, thus I must continue to move slow on a huge map. Also when I want to jump sideways up a obstacle or a doorway and still shoot someone, I can’t! I must turn, sometimes even start sprinting, jump and 99% of the time clamber the obstacle up.
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> > > > Mostly sarcasm but I do like sprint. It suites the maps and gameplay. I like all the abilities except Spartan charge. If you don’t like to sprint than don’t. I don’t when I play SWaT. All these abilities make the game much more skillful. Map movement, when to sprint and not to sprint, high jumps that not everyone can do without a little practice. So you prefer smaller maps and no sprint? Halo 3 might be the game for you. Halo 5 is the game for me and yes, sprint is tied to your skill in Halo 5! Peace, homey!
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> > > Jesus Christ, do they produce you guys somewhere in factory, why are you all saying the same thing? If you don’t like to sprint then don’t sprint. facepalm Do you understand this sentence: Maps and gameplay are build around sprint speed. There. Didn’t think so. Why should you? Some jumps absolutely need sprint, also you think clamber makes the game more skillful, more than perfect timing and crouch jumping? Clamber, a mechanic that ensures you will make every jump or ledge even if your timing is totally off? Oh homey, you and I have different view about skill.
> > > Halo 3 might be the game for me? Yes it was, also to several million other people who enjoyed that sort of gameplay. Halo 5? Not so much.
> > > Look at my stats and get back to me saying that sprint is tied to skill or that it is hard to learn therefore a skillful mechanic. It’s been 6 years. We all learned how to or when to use it. This is not about that. I can’t not use it. The maps are made for it. I’d be left behind. Does it enhance the gameplay? Not for me and millions of others who have moved on to other games. This is all imho.
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> If anyone needs to go away, it is you and your crappy attitude.

B.S. Read his comments. He said he gave up. Done. That’s it. He quit. So, yes he needs to go away and if you given up than you need to go away as well. Go start a new site called halo5nostalgia.com and spew your garbage there. Everyone can have an opinion and respect all opinions until you say you’ve quit and your done with halo. Once you say that than you need to go away, otherwise, you not really done are you?

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> > Get the F over sprint. It’s 2016, Halo HAS to evolve. I’ve been playing since LAN on HCE, so don’t give me this purist nonsense. I’ve also competed all the way up to H3, so I get the competitive angle. Halo needed a big movement and pacing change and H5 is has exceeded my wildest dreams of what they would actually be able to achieve in terms of keeping true to Halo, making needed changes, and actually delivering a MP experience that was fun. So please just move on.
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That’s not an argument? Lol OK sure. Enjoy daydreaming of game mechanics from 2001.

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> > > Get the F over sprint. It’s 2016, Halo HAS to evolve. I’ve been playing since LAN on HCE, so don’t give me this purist nonsense. I’ve also competed all the way up to H3, so I get the competitive angle. Halo needed a big movement and pacing change and H5 is has exceeded my wildest dreams of what they would actually be able to achieve in terms of keeping true to Halo, making needed changes, and actually delivering a MP experience that was fun. So please just move on.
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> That’s not an argument? Lol OK sure. Enjoy daydreaming of game mechanics from 2001.

Claiming “it’s the current year” is by no means an argument. See I can say it’s 2015 and 343 can’t even produce forge at launch, unbelievable!

2007 we had forge at launch, however this iteration of forge is far more complex and sophisticated than anything we’ve seen before. So just claiming it’s the current year is a complete non-argument. It’s actually being intellectually dishonest, you’re avoiding the topic at hand by stating what year it is.

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So you can’t answer the question? Just as I thought.

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> > > > > > > You lazy -Yoinks!-! What’s wrong with sprinting? Oh poor me, I just want to walk around and shoot easy targets so I don’t have to break a sweat, whah! Get some actual exercise. You’re Spartans will thank you for it. Besides, sometimes my Spartan has to go #2 really bad and believe me, if he couldn’t sprint those vehicle splatters would be a whole lot messier!
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> > > > > > I’m hopping this is all sarcasm.
> > > > > > If, and only if, it’s not, sprint isn’t tied to my skill. I’m good at Halo 5. Heck I was good in Halo reach and Halo 4 and both of those games had sprint. It’s that I feel super slow when I decide to shoot or throw nades. I’m moving on this huge 4v4 map in snail pace while giving back up fire to my teammates. If I take even a little fire, I can’t move faster on this huge map because my shields are tied to this sprinting mechanics, thus I must continue to move slow on a huge map. Also when I want to jump sideways up a obstacle or a doorway and still shoot someone, I can’t! I must turn, sometimes even start sprinting, jump and 99% of the time clamber the obstacle up.
> > > > > > Inb4 Halo needs sprint to keep up with competition, fast pace wroom wroom, I’m super spartan I must be able to sprint.
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> > > > > Mostly sarcasm but I do like sprint. It suites the maps and gameplay. I like all the abilities except Spartan charge. If you don’t like to sprint than don’t. I don’t when I play SWaT. All these abilities make the game much more skillful. Map movement, when to sprint and not to sprint, high jumps that not everyone can do without a little practice. So you prefer smaller maps and no sprint? Halo 3 might be the game for you. Halo 5 is the game for me and yes, sprint is tied to your skill in Halo 5! Peace, homey!
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> > > > Jesus Christ, do they produce you guys somewhere in factory, why are you all saying the same thing? If you don’t like to sprint then don’t sprint. facepalm Do you understand this sentence: Maps and gameplay are build around sprint speed. There. Didn’t think so. Why should you? Some jumps absolutely need sprint, also you think clamber makes the game more skillful, more than perfect timing and crouch jumping? Clamber, a mechanic that ensures you will make every jump or ledge even if your timing is totally off? Oh homey, you and I have different view about skill.
> > > > Halo 3 might be the game for me? Yes it was, also to several million other people who enjoyed that sort of gameplay. Halo 5? Not so much.
> > > > Look at my stats and get back to me saying that sprint is tied to skill or that it is hard to learn therefore a skillful mechanic. It’s been 6 years. We all learned how to or when to use it. This is not about that. I can’t not use it. The maps are made for it. I’d be left behind. Does it enhance the gameplay? Not for me and millions of others who have moved on to other games. This is all imho.
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> > > If you’ve moved on then why are you still here? Do they produce me in a factory? Likewise. Funny how there are 2 sides to this. Some like it some don’t. Some have embraced the abilities and some can’t let go of the past. We’re not talking about Spartan charging, it’s sprint. And no, you can’t just use sprint and clamber to make every jump. But hey, what do you care? You’ve moved on. Just not far enough. Hopefully by the time you read this you will have moved far enough away that I can’t hear you anymore but your probably like the rest of the nostalgic complainers always coming back to chime in on a game you’ve given up on. This didn’t release last month. It’s almost been a year now, yet you’re still here. You’re still here. Please, go away.
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> > If anyone needs to go away, it is you and your crappy attitude.
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> B.S. Read his comments. He said he gave up. Done. That’s it. He quit. So, yes he needs to go away and if you given up than you need to go away as well. Go start a new site called halo5nostalgia.com and spew your garbage there. Everyone can have an opinion and respect all opinions until you say you’ve quit and your done with halo. Once you say that than you need to go away, otherwise, you not really done are you?
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Funny how you got all hostile when I gave you something to argue about and you got caught on the fact that Halo isn’t my 1. game anymore. Both of your posts are so aggressive when in fact, I’ve played the series for 15 years and never once seen a guy like you. Halos community has gotten extremely toxic with these ‘leave now, Halo is something different, move on’ posts. I’m trying to make the series to something better while you give nothing in return. Look around you, you’re playing a franchise that once sold millions of consoles, one game got someone to buy a whole console.

Also, it has absolutely nothing to do with nostalgia. There are Halo veterans who love the new abilities, sprint included, and new player who don’t really enjoy them.

P.S. I never quit. 10k halo 3 matches and not once did I quit out. I’ll be here trying to make things better while you have moved on long ago when this game isn’t something you like anymore.

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> > > > Get the F over sprint. It’s 2016, Halo HAS to evolve. I’ve been playing since LAN on HCE, so don’t give me this purist nonsense. I’ve also competed all the way up to H3, so I get the competitive angle. Halo needed a big movement and pacing change and H5 is has exceeded my wildest dreams of what they would actually be able to achieve in terms of keeping true to Halo, making needed changes, and actually delivering a MP experience that was fun. So please just move on.
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> > > That’s not an argument. Why is it good for the gameplay? What does sprint accomplish that can’t be done in a another way with less negative effects?
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> > That’s not an argument? Lol OK sure. Enjoy daydreaming of game mechanics from 2001.
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> Claiming “it’s the current year” is by no means an argument. See I can say it’s 2015 and 343 can’t even produce forge at launch, unbelievable!
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> 2007 we had forge at launch, however this iteration of forge is far more complex and sophisticated than anything we’ve seen before. So just claiming it’s the current year is a complete non-argument. It’s actually being intellectually dishonest, you’re avoiding the topic at hand by stating what year it is.

Have fun complaining about the basic fundamentals of a game on its forums nearly a year after launch.

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> > > > > Get the F over sprint. It’s 2016, Halo HAS to evolve. I’ve been playing since LAN on HCE, so don’t give me this purist nonsense. I’ve also competed all the way up to H3, so I get the competitive angle. Halo needed a big movement and pacing change and H5 is has exceeded my wildest dreams of what they would actually be able to achieve in terms of keeping true to Halo, making needed changes, and actually delivering a MP experience that was fun. So please just move on.
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> > > > That’s not an argument. Why is it good for the gameplay? What does sprint accomplish that can’t be done in a another way with less negative effects?
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> > > That’s not an argument? Lol OK sure. Enjoy daydreaming of game mechanics from 2001.
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> > Claiming “it’s the current year” is by no means an argument. See I can say it’s 2015 and 343 can’t even produce forge at launch, unbelievable!
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> > 2007 we had forge at launch, however this iteration of forge is far more complex and sophisticated than anything we’ve seen before. So just claiming it’s the current year is a complete non-argument. It’s actually being intellectually dishonest, you’re avoiding the topic at hand by stating what year it is.
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> Have fun complaining about the basic fundamentals of a game on its forums nearly a year after launch.

Classic example of the avoiding the issue fallacy. Just answer the question.