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> > > > > You know what you need a poll… otherwise this thread is pointless… find out exactly the numbers and support for your arguement.
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> > > > The only effect a poll would have is force this thread from the H5G forums into the poll forums. The results would never be representative either way because the sample size is not only too small but biased as well…
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> > > Tbh I am against the OP arguement, I believe the iteration of Sprint in Halo 5: Guardians is well deserved… it creates a risk v reward and requires a paramount skill gap of when to use it and when not to…
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> > Okay, besides the fact that pushing an easy-to-reach button to instantly escape from danger does not require any sort of skill… what is it with you guys and this “risk-reward” argument?
> > If you really want a mechanic that gets you places faster while at the same time having a risk-reward-factor attached to it, then I have a suggestion: How about we introduce something akin to Dishonored’s “Blink” to Halo?
> > From a lore point of view, it could be the teleporter that the promethean knights are using, retrofitted to be available to Spartans. In gameplay terms, it can teleport you any place on the map in an instant, but it has a potential chance to overload and kill you, since it’s a prototype technology. The further you want to travel, the higher the probability it backfires/the larger the explosion and damage to the Spartan. Pro-sprinters get places faster and can have their risk-reward-system, Anti-sprinters get their run-and-gun back with TTK and weapons damage no longer being tailored for two movement speeds and everybody’s happy.
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> You cannot honestly be serious… very impractical…
Less impractical than lowering your gun in the middle of a battle!
It gets people faster from A to B, just like sprint. It has a risk-reward-system attached to it, just like sprint. On the other hand, it doesn’t disrupt combat by forcing players to run around like headless chicken for half a minute. And it doesn’t create a secondary movement speed that needs to be considered when balancing weapon output/TTK. It basically has all the advantages of sprint without the drawbacks.
So what about this suggestion is impractical? Please, do enlighten me.
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> > > > > > seriously… go back and play CE- h3 and notice how painfully slow that is.
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> > > > > > im a halo fan, i loved every halo game that has come out… i’ve been with it since it was released when i was in college. even more, i was a huge bungie fan before halo.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > but facts is facts… and in this day with shooters there shouldn’t be a desire to remove sprint or slow down the game - you are a super solider, and a SS that can’t run is pretty ridiculous.
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> > > > > LOL wut. Not sure if serious. You’ve clearly never played CE (or H2), or just don’t remember. CE and H2 and objectively the fasted paced Halos ever lol. Especially CE 2v2s.
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> > > > > Also, why shouldn’t a super soldier be able to fun fast and shoot at the same time? That makes no sense. It’s been confirmed in the lore.
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> > > > you would need to define “pace”.
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> > > This may be a rough definition, but I’ll say: “The consistency of a players engagement with enemies throughout the game.”
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> > > Basically the more you’re attacking other players, the faster paced it is. I’d think there’s little disagreement that the game is at its fastest and most intense when you’re in a fight.
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> > then I haven’t seen much change in pace since CE, even with sprint.
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> > seems more a function of the ratio of map size to number of players.
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> People say games of CE doubles (to 50 kills) in particular are about as long as H5 TS games. Normally, I don’t care much for anecdotal evidence, but given doubles has half the players, I’d say it’s pretty indicative of faster paced play.
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> Obviously in theory, a match with half the amount of players should twice as long (if doubles and TS are both to 50 kills), so even doubles being within a minute or two of a TS match would indicate faster pace.
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> Either way though, there are people that have noticed. Even if you haven’t noticed it getting slower, there’s no harm in making it faster for those that have noticed.
CE might be a bit of an outlier because of the pistol, and doubles more so.
And there might be harm in increasing pace. you dont need to notice something to be affected by it.
i also need to point out that game length is not how you defined pace. Though I would be interested in seeing mean times of comparable slayer matches across the games. MCC seems like a good option for setting up some matches for time.
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> > Keep sprint. Slightly alter it however.
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> First off, why keep it?
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> Secondly, how would you slightly alter it?
It shouldn’t be removed. It’s an evolution that has already been made.
Perhaps decrease speed. Increase time it takes to reach full speed. Or make it an armor ability. Anything to your liking so your problem can be solved.
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> > > Keep sprint. Slightly alter it however.
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> > First off, why keep it?
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> > Secondly, how would you slightly alter it?
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> It shouldn’t be removed. It’s an evolution that has already been made.
> Perhaps decrease speed. Increase time it takes to reach full speed. Or make it an armor ability. Anything to your liking so your problem can be solved.
Let’s avoid terms that describe changes as improvements and instead outline what the changes do, shall we? So what are the effects that adding Sprint to Halo has brought?
Anything to my liking so that my issues with Sprint would be resolved? Alright, let’s tweak it so that players can still fire weapons/throw grenades/melee while doing so and make it where players can sprint in any direction, rather than just forward. That’ll pretty much do it for me.
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> > > > > > > seriously… go back and play CE- h3 and notice how painfully slow that is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > im a halo fan, i loved every halo game that has come out… i’ve been with it since it was released when i was in college. even more, i was a huge bungie fan before halo.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but facts is facts… and in this day with shooters there shouldn’t be a desire to remove sprint or slow down the game - you are a super solider, and a SS that can’t run is pretty ridiculous.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LOL wut. Not sure if serious. You’ve clearly never played CE (or H2), or just don’t remember. CE and H2 and objectively the fasted paced Halos ever lol. Especially CE 2v2s.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, why shouldn’t a super soldier be able to fun fast and shoot at the same time? That makes no sense. It’s been confirmed in the lore.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > you would need to define “pace”.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This may be a rough definition, but I’ll say: “The consistency of a players engagement with enemies throughout the game.”
> > > >
> > > > Basically the more you’re attacking other players, the faster paced it is. I’d think there’s little disagreement that the game is at its fastest and most intense when you’re in a fight.
> > >
> > >
> > > then I haven’t seen much change in pace since CE, even with sprint.
> > >
> > > seems more a function of the ratio of map size to number of players.
> >
> >
> > People say games of CE doubles (to 50 kills) in particular are about as long as H5 TS games. Normally, I don’t care much for anecdotal evidence, but given doubles has half the players, I’d say it’s pretty indicative of faster paced play.
> >
> > Obviously in theory, a match with half the amount of players should twice as long (if doubles and TS are both to 50 kills), so even doubles being within a minute or two of a TS match would indicate faster pace.
> >
> > Either way though, there are people that have noticed. Even if you haven’t noticed it getting slower, there’s no harm in making it faster for those that have noticed.
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> CE might be a bit of an outlier because of the pistol, and doubles more so.
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> And there might be harm in increasing pace. you dont need to notice something to be affected by it.
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> i also need to point out that game length is not how you defined pace. Though I would be interested in seeing mean times of comparable slayer matches across the games. MCC seems like a good option for setting up some matches for time.
A games length is a result of the definition I put worth. The more you’re engaged with an enemy, the fast kills tend to happen, which ends the game quicker.
True though that the CE Pistol may make things a little faster than other games in the series. Though, it remains that CE was undoubtedly the fastest paced Halo, all things taken into account. Obviously when you take into consideration the powerful weapons, the shorter time between engagements and typically smaller maps that lend to a tighter, more focused experience (as opposed to bigger maps that are built for a speed you’re only moving at some of the time).
Current Halo’s are slower paced for a number of reasons, not just sprint, but many of those reasons are a result of sprints inclusion.
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> > Secondly, how would you slightly alter it?
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> It shouldn’t be removed. It’s an evolution that has already been made.
> Perhaps decrease speed. Increase time it takes to reach full speed. Or make it an armor ability. Anything to your liking so your problem can be solved.
“Evolution” is not an answer. Why is it good for the gameplay?
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> > > > > > > seriously… go back and play CE- h3 and notice how painfully slow that is.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > im a halo fan, i loved every halo game that has come out… i’ve been with it since it was released when i was in college. even more, i was a huge bungie fan before halo.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > but facts is facts… and in this day with shooters there shouldn’t be a desire to remove sprint or slow down the game - you are a super solider, and a SS that can’t run is pretty ridiculous.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > LOL wut. Not sure if serious. You’ve clearly never played CE (or H2), or just don’t remember. CE and H2 and objectively the fasted paced Halos ever lol. Especially CE 2v2s.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, why shouldn’t a super soldier be able to fun fast and shoot at the same time? That makes no sense. It’s been confirmed in the lore.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > you would need to define “pace”.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This may be a rough definition, but I’ll say: “The consistency of a players engagement with enemies throughout the game.”
> > > >
> > > > Basically the more you’re attacking other players, the faster paced it is. I’d think there’s little disagreement that the game is at its fastest and most intense when you’re in a fight.
> > >
> > >
> > > then I haven’t seen much change in pace since CE, even with sprint.
> > >
> > > seems more a function of the ratio of map size to number of players.
> >
> >
> > People say games of CE doubles (to 50 kills) in particular are about as long as H5 TS games. Normally, I don’t care much for anecdotal evidence, but given doubles has half the players, I’d say it’s pretty indicative of faster paced play.
> >
> > Obviously in theory, a match with half the amount of players should twice as long (if doubles and TS are both to 50 kills), so even doubles being within a minute or two of a TS match would indicate faster pace.
> >
> > Either way though, there are people that have noticed. Even if you haven’t noticed it getting slower, there’s no harm in making it faster for those that have noticed.
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> CE might be a bit of an outlier because of the pistol, and doubles more so.
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> And there might be harm in increasing pace. you dont need to notice something to be affected by it.
>
> i also need to point out that game length is not how you defined pace. Though I would be interested in seeing mean times of comparable slayer matches across the games. MCC seems like a good option for setting up some matches for time.
You asked me a question, I answered. You didn’t reply. Waiting.
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> I like the sprint, but wish they’d return the spartan charge to its original full damage.
I disagree!! I think Spartan charge needs to be removed!! WOAH, hear me out, it’s become a thing that will be annoying to people that actually use guns and play the game properly, when a load of noobs will go running around and keep spawn killing! It’s just a really noob like thing to do! Yes you may look at my SR and I have a lot of Spartan charge kills but that was when EVERYONE, yes even YOU, when the game first came out we were ALL noobs and trying all the new abilities out! If you don’t agree then there should be at least a timer, like thrusters, so level it out more!
I know this thread is a highly opinionated topic but IMO Sprint didn’t change all to much or “Kill Halo.” I think it’s perfectly fine and wouldn’t care if they kept or removed it.
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> I know this thread is a highly opinionated topic but IMO Sprint didn’t change all to much or “Kill Halo.” I think it’s perfectly fine and wouldn’t care if they kept or removed it.
As they say you don’t know what you have until it’s gone.
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> They should just add “classic” playlists in both halo 5 and any future halo games where matches have no sprint,abilities etc.
That would be a dream if they did that with halo 5 are any halo title in the near future.
I enjoy the sprint myself. I know others may disagree. Maybe they can create a playlist that disables the sprint function for who don’t want it. Just a thought.
