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> i think that halo would be better with sprint
Will you explain why you think it should stay or are you gonna spam.
The golden triangle is basically our side’s equivalent to immersion and super soldier arguments.
It’s vague, ill-defined and largely devoid of any actual meaning.
Vehicles, equipment, power-ups, map hazards, etc. all fall outside of that triangle.
Like -Yoink-, what game doesn’t have guns, grenades, and melee?
At best it’s a useful tool for simplifying Halo’s formula to the layman, but it’s far from being accurate.
i think it should stay because it keeps the pace of the game fast
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Not at all. look at maps and Truth and Midship Truth was upsized for sprint so if you sprint to point a to point b its the same as walking on Midship. So if you walk on Truth it would be so slow when doing it.
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> i think it should stay because it keeps the pace of the game fast
Doom is faster than Halo 5 without sprint. I used to think like you, but sprint is not required for a game to be fast paced.
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If they went DOOM pace which is about almost sprint speed. It would make the game a whole lot faster then having no sprint.
Plus lets not forget that the Mark VI is GEN 2 Which and the armor actually got lighter then previous gen so making you even faster due to less weight.
So tired of hearing the argument to remove sprint. There is no problem with sprint in halo 5. You can’t regenerate if your sprinting so it’s balanced. End of story. Keep sprint.
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> The golden triangle is basically our side’s equivalent to immersion and super soldier arguments.
> It’s vague, ill-defined and largely devoid of any actual meaning.
> Vehicles, equipment, power-ups, map hazards, etc. all fall outside of that triangle.
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> Like -Yoink-, what game doesn’t have guns, grenades, and melee?
You missed “Standard / Staple of FPS” games.
I bet a lot of peole would say guns are a staple and actually required for an FPS game to be called FPS.
I’ve imagined a Battlefield Spin-Off purely with magic users set in a first person perspective and where magic behaves like guns, but you have hands doing the stuff instead of weapons, oblivion and skyrim style.
Wouldn’t that classify as an FPS?
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> I’ve imagined a Battlefield Spin-Off purely with magic users set in a first person perspective and where magic behaves like guns, but you have hands doing the stuff instead of weapons, oblivion and skyrim style.
> Wouldn’t that classify as an FPS?
I’m not really sure what you’re getting at.
But yeah I would consider that an FPS.
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> If they went DOOM pace which is about almost sprint speed. It would make the game a whole lot faster then having no sprint.
I know. I’m saying they don’t NEED sprint to make it fast paced, I never said to make it the same speed as Doom, although that would suit me down to the ground.
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I know that sprint doesn’t need to but just thinking if they did it would just get fast.
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> I know that sprint doesn’t need to but just thinking if they did it would just get fast.
Not sure what you mean. What I’m getting at is that we don’t need sprint for game pace, alll they need to do is increase the base movement speed.
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> > > > If they went DOOM pace which is about almost sprint speed. It would make the game a whole lot faster then having no sprint.
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> Not sure what you mean. What I’m getting at is that we don’t need sprint for game pace, alll they need to do is increase the base movement speed.
From a previous post I said if they did take out sprint with increase base movement it would fit with the lore I mean lets not forget that the Mark VI is GEN 2 Which and the armor actually got lighter then previous gen so making you even faster due to less weight.
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> From a previous post I said if they did take out sprint with increase base movement it would fit with the lore I mean lets not forget that the Mark VI is GEN 2 Which and the armor actually got lighter then previous gen so making you even faster due to less weight.
That’s a different argument, lore and cannon don’t always come into it. I quoted the user as they thought sprint meant a faster pace, I pointed out that you didn’t need sprint for pace like I used to think, and I used Doom as an example of a fast paced game without sprint.
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> > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitive halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
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> > > A: Since the anti-sprint camp is only a section of the community it would not be the game everyone wants.
> > > B: There has never been a clear answer as to why people think two geared movement isn’t ‘competitive’. Nor do I consider competitiveness to be the be all and end all of Halo. It has a role, but that isn’t all halo is as h5 has shown to some degree.
> > > C: You call any position other than yours ‘absurd’ though you fail to demonstrate how.
> > > D: Loudly proclaiming that sprint has no place in ‘competitive’ halo is a claim, not an argument. You need to back up your claim if it is to be taken seriously.
> > > E: Halo 5 has map design problems, but they don’t really center around sprint. They center around size, spawning, blind corners, and lack of variety.
> > > F: As a Halo veteran with no distaste for sprint, this argument form ignorance that the loss of population overtime is due to sprint that has been flooding the forum of late is getting tiresome. You still have nothing to base the claim on. It is still the equivalent of walking into your kitchen in the morning and seeing a plate of French toast and assuming a unicorn with a glittering mane made it for you.
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> > Its twitch rating has dropped hugely and it consistently sits below H5 most days despite being multi-platform. I realise this isnt the best measure but look at the steam numbers Here and you can see how numbers have dropped.
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Overwatch has characters with faster movement abilities (including Sprint).
I don’t get the golden triangle argument (remember I’m not pro sprint)I use my gun all the time, I spam grenades as much as the next guy and I melee people CQ, how as sprint broken the golden triangle ?
Midship/truth seems to be the crux of the anti sprint argument for stretched maps but none of the other maps could be classed as big or stretched out infact they are all relatively small maps with relatively short sniper sight lines (coliseum, plaza, rig, Eden, etc etc) and why is the remix Regret smaller ? Is there any quantifiable proof that truth WAS stretched out to accommodate sprint ? Let’s not forget it’s a remake not an exact copy.
The older games had there share of big arena maps (Zanzibar, sanctuary, acension) and in some cases bigger than what we have H5.
Im not calling -Yoink- on anyone here just trying to get a better understanding of the arguments.
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What I’m getting at is that there are quite a few who apart from super soldiers and immersion also pull the “sprint is a standard”, “sprint is now part of FPS”, “spriny is required for FPS”, “etc” cards, and I bet many of those would faint laughing if anyone told them that not even guns are required to make it an FPS. They’re so painted into a corner, set on a specific mindset about how a shooter should look and behave that they can’t think outside the box. Just look at those who think the Pistol shouldn’t be as powerful just because it’s called “pistol” and looks like one. They’d probably be perfectly fine if it was called something with “rifle” and look like a mini-DMR.
Just like my Spin-Off idea. How many would actually consider it an FPS because guns would be absent?
I’ve asked before where I can find a list of FPS / genre specific standards but no one has delivered.
i like the sprint but it would be preety good to retrograde it a tad, perhaps adding the ingame personal option to do so that would supplement others needs and wants me personally i would like it to retrograde.