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> Ok. Sure. Just go play a 1:1 remake of a classic Halo map and then we can talk about how sprint BY NECESSITY results in maps that are elongated and cluttered in ways that negatively impact the flow of the game. This is not being unimaginative. It is the limitations imposed on map design by having sprint in a Halo game. The same is true of clamber. So, basically, no. You have no idea what you’re talking about.
It’s well known that sprint necessitates larger and more open maps, but do you have a convincing argument why this should be considered poor design? Also, can you elaborate on what you mean by “cluttered”? Because what I generally consider as “clutter” has no relation to sprint and, in fact, certain type of clutter is exactly what you want to avoid with sprint because you want those long sightlines.
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I can see that happening for sure. It’s really a big topic to be discussion. Sprint really changed how things are played
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Speaking of the Elite thread, why isn’t that one being put on the popular topics when it’s bigger than this one?
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No clue. Probably because no one hasn’t post in it in like a couple hours.
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> > Sprint would have to be in all modes or not in any as it would generally become confusing alternating between the different game modes. Also sprint is competitive as to the fact it adds another layer of mechanics to how the game works (basically how you can move around the map and things). It is not game breaking or anything and most people have a problem with it because they want to complain about change.
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Thank you for actually giving a more thorough reason as why not to have sprint but for me in every halo the person who shoots first almost always wins if they are not bad at the game. Personally I like it as I said I feel like it adds different styles to use but whichever they choose for halo 6 I’ll have no problem with as long as it isn’t split
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If you look at the popular topics, you see that it’s clearly some function of post frequency, perhaps also how many views the thread is getting. Post count doesn’t seem to be much of a factor. Which makes sense because weighing post frequency over post count makes it easier for new threads to get into the popular topics.
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I feel that, at this point both of said topics should be stickied.
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I agree. I made a thread that they should made like some Official mega thread slot on Waypoint and Monitors thought it was a interesting idea.
Megathreads are where topics go to die. No one wants to bother making a good post in a thread where your post is just going to get buried in hundreds of inane one-line posts.
The people you GUY’s need to convince are the game developers(343), why to take out sprint. Everyone can argue their points and make valid ones too but that is as as far as it will go, at least here on this forum. Everyone in this so called community knows about all these issues but what good is that if we cant change the game ourselves? the people that should be answering the question" Why does Sprint need to be in the game" IS 343, NOT US!!! but them. My opinion is drill THEM!!! until you get an answer and stop with these threads that constantly keeps people bashing on each other. And if there is never a reply in regards to sprint by 343…what do think that means? we already know this…
I hope you guys know that its never going to be removed. Halo needed that modernization to it. Halo 5 is the only game where I truly feel like a Spartan. Compared Chief in Halo 2 to a Marine in Halo 2, the only difference between you and him is that you are stronger and more skilled, Where as in Halo 5, you are stronger, skilled, faster and have tons of abilities at your disposal. For the first time in Halo, I can say that when I play this game I feel like a spartan. Taking it away takes away what a spartan is supposed to be. Plus at this point there are far more players that would be angry if it was removed, this discussion has gone on far to long, and its pretty annoying at this point.
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> I hope you guys know that its never going to be removed. Halo needed that modernization to it. Halo 5 is the only game where I truly feel like a Spartan. Compared Chief in Halo 2 to a Marine in Halo 2, the only difference between you and him is that you are stronger and more skilled, Where as in Halo 5, you are stronger, skilled, faster and have tons of abilities at your disposal. For the first time in Halo, I can say that when I play this game I feel like a spartan. Taking it away takes away what a spartan is supposed to be. Plus at this point there are far more players that would be angry if it was removed, this discussion has gone on far to long, and its pretty annoying at this point.
How about no sprint, you just run much faster than they do by default and we keep a few of the abilities. Seriously it isn’t that hard to make both sides happy here. The only thing we’re stubborn about is sprint as a mechanic and maybe Spartan charge but that’s a person by person basis.
This thread doesn’t even count for the people who don’t get on Waypoint. Also, the incredibly large Halo population that died out when Sprint was first incorporated. I say remove it, and bring the majority back. I see far more rants about sprint than I do praises. Just look at YouTube. Other than the 343 suck-ups, most YouTubers who give genuine feedback complain about sprint (and other features currently missing form the game).
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> I hope you guys know that its never going to be removed. Halo needed that modernization to it. Halo 5 is the only game where I truly feel like a Spartan. Compared Chief in Halo 2 to a Marine in Halo 2, the only difference between you and him is that you are stronger and more skilled, Where as in Halo 5, you are stronger, skilled, faster and have tons of abilities at your disposal. For the first time in Halo, I can say that when I play this game I feel like a spartan. Taking it away takes away what a spartan is supposed to be. Plus at this point there are far more players that would be angry if it was removed, this discussion has gone on far to long, and its pretty annoying at this point.
H5 feels old, dated and slow compared to newer games that have no sprint like overwatch and doom. Not to mention h5 classic settings. In H5 I feel.like regular soldier with shields. In doom I feel like a super soldier. Being able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.