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Not. i like the way wich 343 goes.
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> > > > the playbut thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > > Smh. “Its there but its still an option” U can just umm…NOT SPRINT. U have the option to sprint. If u don’t wanna sprint then keep your greasy hands of the A button and stop complaining and filling up the top threads with your nonsensical bull@#$%. I played the old Halo’s too and when sprint was released in reach, guess what I did, I ADJUSTED TO IT. If you cant adjust to the new halo then maybe you should stop playing.
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> > and what…be at a disadvantage while everyone around him is sprinting? thats a stupid thoughtless argument…i dont like AR/PISTOL starts…so what should i do? not use the ar or pistol?..maybe i should just spartan charge everyone…the issue is having things like that in the game to begin with…oh and by the way…most people have stopped playing…maybe not a good argument to use if you want people to play with in the next year or so
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> I very much doubt just because you sprint and charge takes away suddenly double as many people play halo.
well first of all i didnt say that…i dont where your getting that from…i said people shouldnt just say go play something else…because people are already doing that and it will only make the population lower…i think its too late to bring back most hardcore classic fans to halo 5 even with a classic playlist…a classic game by itself might…and i suspect most people who like halo 5’s direction would still play a new halo game even if it was classic…so you would have most of the “new”. halo fans playing and alot of the classic fans playing…overall i think it would be more successful…opposition to new halo is much stronger then praise for new halo…and mcc doesnt count…thats like saying to someone who doesnt like halo 6 to go play halo 5…except halo 5 had terrible connections, terrible ranks, the game consistantly crashes, and theres only two playlists…and one of them is halo reach 50 percent of the time!
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> > > > > > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > > > > Smh. “Its there but its still an option” U can just umm…NOT SPRINT. U have the option to sprint. If u don’t wanna sprint then keep your greasy hands of the A button and stop complaining and filling up the top threads with your nonsensical bull@#$%. I played the old Halo’s too and when sprint was released in reach, guess what I did, I ADJUSTED TO IT. If you cant adjust to the new halo then maybe you should stop playing.
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> > > > and what…be at a disadvantage while everyone around him is sprinting? thats a stupid thoughtless argument…i dont like AR/PISTOL starts…so what should i do? not use the ar or pistol?..maybe i should just spartan charge everyone…the issue is having things like that in the game to begin with…oh and by the way…most people have stopped playing…maybe not a good argument to use if you want people to play with in the next year or so
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> > well first of all…those kinds of maps do exist, second of all there isnt some big data base where you can select “no sprint map”, and thirdly its alot easier to just play another game than to just play custom games everyday…and quite frankly most of the arena maps would work fine without sprint they are so damn small…and any of the other abilities for that matter (thruster pack and spartan charge must die)…clamber seems to be the only ability the maps are actually based around…maybe you wouldnt be able make a few advanced jumps here and there with only clamber…but for the most part it would be fine
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> I don’t play custome games or get into forging. So I’m qunite ignorant to how the file share works and what not. But I was under the assumption that if a game type is made, i.e. Non Sprint, and labeled as such, it can easily be found in the files share search section. If this is indeed how it works, I would think there should be a plethora of non sprint maps and game types to go along with the “majority” of people that hate sprint.
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that sounds tedious to do consistantly…its easier to just play another game…and most people do…and im not sure im not the biggest custom game player either
I actually like sprint, that’s all I have to say
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That is one of the most moronic things I’ve ever heard.
“negatively effects the game” I love the game. It’s fun, it’s balanced and I enjoy it. The only negativity is in this forums from people like you.
“forced to play without sprint” I was forced to play without it. Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST. And guess what- when I go back and play them, they feel slow. It feels like the game drags on forever with no end. So sprint > no sprint-
You question my intelligence? I deny the existence of yours.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that sprint is necessary for Halo. Yes the original Halos did not have sprint, but in today’s games sprint is necessary. Imagine doing warzone with no sprint. It would take an eternity to cross the map. In campaign when I go back and play Halo 1 through 3 it feels slow paced now to an almost unbearable amount. Also new players who are entering into the franchise would not be entertained by the slower game play that no sprint offers.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually made it a point to play my first Warzone match without sprinting once. It worked just fine, even with Halo 5’s gimped base movement speed. If new players to the franchise can’t handle moving a little slower(like in the gameplay Halo was built on), then Halo just isn’t the franchise for them. That’s ok though. Not everyone is going to be a Halo fan. But, we shouldn’t be turning away long time fans of the franchise in hopes of maybe pleasing some newcomers. That has been the strategy for over half a decade now, and the population shows that it isn’t working. Trying to change and overhaul a working formula is not the way to continue a franchise.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > And yet if it does not evolve then it will become stagnant and die. Just because the ability to code a sprint feature was not a thing or available in the past means we should ignore it now? Human beings can run, so why can we not run in games? If this was a platformer or adventure game you would do it with how fast you move the joystick.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Because sprint wasn’t in the old Halo games for whatever reason, we should ignore it now.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone acts like continuing the Halo franchise is inherently some good thing that should be done no matter the cost. But, if we have to give up Halo’s soul just to get more Halo games, then what’s the point?
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> > > > > > > > > > > If Halo stayed the same, and you deemed it too “stagnant”, and you lost interest in it, then that’s fine. You will have lost interest in the Halo franchise. But at this point you sound like you’ve already lost interest in Halo. You’re only interested in this Halo/modern-shooter hybrid thing that Halo has been turned into.
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> > > > > > > > > > Back in the day Halo had the same mechanics as the other fps games of its time. What made Halo different was rechargeable shields and way cooler weapons and vehicles than the other games.
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> > > > > > > > > This is very true. And if something as minor as sprint has made you lose interest in Halo (and that’s fine), maybe Halo isn’t for you anymore. Time to move on.
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> > > > > > > > Sprint effects the game at the most fundamental level.
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> > > > > > > Ugh stop being so dramatic. All you anti-sprinters just don’t like it because of weapon lowering. Don’t like sprint, simply don’t sprint.
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> > > > > > Why are you even in a discussion thread about something you know nothing about?
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> > > > > Most of them don’t. They make surface level arguments at best whereas anti-sprinters get into the nitty gritty.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that sprint is necessary for Halo. Yes the original Halos did not have sprint, but in today’s games sprint is necessary. Imagine doing warzone with no sprint. It would take an eternity to cross the map. In campaign when I go back and play Halo 1 through 3 it feels slow paced now to an almost unbearable amount. Also new players who are entering into the franchise would not be entertained by the slower game play that no sprint offers.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually made it a point to play my first Warzone match without sprinting once. It worked just fine, even with Halo 5’s gimped base movement speed. If new players to the franchise can’t handle moving a little slower(like in the gameplay Halo was built on), then Halo just isn’t the franchise for them. That’s ok though. Not everyone is going to be a Halo fan. But, we shouldn’t be turning away long time fans of the franchise in hopes of maybe pleasing some newcomers. That has been the strategy for over half a decade now, and the population shows that it isn’t working. Trying to change and overhaul a working formula is not the way to continue a franchise.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > And yet if it does not evolve then it will become stagnant and die. Just because the ability to code a sprint feature was not a thing or available in the past means we should ignore it now? Human beings can run, so why can we not run in games? If this was a platformer or adventure game you would do it with how fast you move the joystick.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Because sprint wasn’t in the old Halo games for whatever reason, we should ignore it now.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Everyone acts like continuing the Halo franchise is inherently some good thing that should be done no matter the cost. But, if we have to give up Halo’s soul just to get more Halo games, then what’s the point?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > If Halo stayed the same, and you deemed it too “stagnant”, and you lost interest in it, then that’s fine. You will have lost interest in the Halo franchise. But at this point you sound like you’ve already lost interest in Halo. You’re only interested in this Halo/modern-shooter hybrid thing that Halo has been turned into.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Back in the day Halo had the same mechanics as the other fps games of its time. What made Halo different was rechargeable shields and way cooler weapons and vehicles than the other games.
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> > > > > > > > > > This is very true. And if something as minor as sprint has made you lose interest in Halo (and that’s fine), maybe Halo isn’t for you anymore. Time to move on.
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> > > > > > > > > lol what?
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> > > > > > > > Ugh stop being so dramatic. All you anti-sprinters just don’t like it because of weapon lowering. Don’t like sprint, simply don’t sprint.
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> > > > > > > You obviously don’t even have a grasp of the most basic effects sprint has.
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> > > > > > > Why are you even in a discussion thread about something you know nothing about?
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> > > > > > Most of them don’t. They make surface level arguments at best whereas anti-sprinters get into the nitty gritty.
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> > > > > That is the most infuriating part of this topic. It’s not like other debates where two educated, intelligent sides clash over a disagreement. This topic is simply one side being educated and aware of an issue while the other side is utterly oblivious.
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> > > > Nitty gritty and educated eh?? You mean by one repeating the same 2 points over and over? Get over it and go pretend to be enlightened above everyone somewhere else.
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> What is either of us gonna say to sway the other? Seriously. There’s maybe 2-3 arguments for either side, and every point gets repeated over and over each and everyday on this board. What argument do I need at this point other than I like sprint and always wanted in Halo? What would you say? the maps are designed around it and just increase movement speed and that it lowers your weapon? Or how about the population sales are down because of sprint? or my personal favorite, sprint makes Halo not feel like Halo. Go play CS:GO (that dumb esports game you guys love to toss out there) or Doom if you guys are so upset over sprint. Maybe Halo just isn’t for you anymore.
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> > > > I feel like anyone who doesn’t like sprint needs to get over it , the way I look at it is it gives halo a nice touch and its greatly appreciated , the way I look at it is that if you don’t like it then just don’t use it , on e3 before halo 5 was even release they announced you could turn sprint off in your settings … Sprint is helpful
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> > > Then your “solution” for those that prefer the way Halo was originally intended to play is “don’t use it”? When everything has been tuned to make Sprint work as well as it could, not using the mechanic no longer becomes much of an option (especially when other mechanics require you to sprint first).
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> > Based on already 3 Halo games already having sprint (Halo reach, Halo 4, Halo 5), future Halos will have sprint no matter what, so stop hating on it. What if you were a Spartan, would you always just slowly walk around when you have the option of running to get to places faster? In Halo media, they are always sprinting because they have to so just stop your negative comments.
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> Just because a mechanic has been in multiple games doesn’t mean it cannot be changed or removed. Health packs were in three of the seven FPS Halo games (CE, ODST, & Reach), Dual-Wielding was in two (2 & 3), and Loadouts/Armor Abilities were in two (Reach & 4)… yet none of those are present in Halo 5.
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> You’re thinking about game mechanics in the wrong way. Its not a matter of “should I sprint or not?”, its a matter of “should players be able to sprint or not?”. You shouldn’t apply real-world logic to every aspect of a game (you know what else Spartans are always doing in the media? Breathing… but it shouldn’t be made into a mechanic because of that, right?). Also, debating the inclusion of a mechanic doesn’t make a comment negative.
Evidently, a larger population of fans enjoy and commend the Sprint mechanic, the mechanic is staying and hopefully nay-sayers like you will change your mind when Halo 6 comes out, maybe it will be tweaked the way you like it, who knows?
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> > > Oh really OP? EVERYONE would be happy if there was no sprint? Including me and thousands of people who like it?
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> That is one of the most moronic things I’ve ever heard.
> “negatively effects the game” I love the game. It’s fun, it’s balanced and I enjoy it. The only negativity is in this forums from people like you.
> “forced to play without sprint” I was forced to play without it. Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo ODST. And guess what- when I go back and play them, they feel slow. It feels like the game drags on forever with no end. So sprint > no sprint-
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> You question my intelligence? I deny the existence of yours.
Actually I like sprint but the older Halo games are still pretty fun because of the more frequent use of vehicles right?
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What the hell are you talking about? CA isn’t the developer of the games, they cooperate with 343 on certain parts of multiplayer development, that’s it.
They’re not replacing 343. And please get that Trump mentality out of here.
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Let 343 design the campaign and Certain Affinity design the multiplayer.
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> What the hell are you talking about? CA isn’t the developer of the games, they cooperate with 343 on certain parts of multiplayer development, that’s it.
> They’re not replacing 343. And please get that Trump mentality out of here.
Please leave politics out of this, I don’t want an argument inside of another. You’re right, CA only helps create multiplayer maps for different games. However they do have ex-Bungie and Microsoft employees. But overall you’re right anyway.
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> > They’re not replacing 343. And please get that Trump mentality out of here.
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> Please leave politics out of this, I don’t want an argument inside of another. You’re right, CA only helps create multiplayer maps for different games. However they do have ex-Bungie and Microsoft employees. But overall you’re right anyway.
It’s a joke, I’m not being political.
I don’t give a damn about american politics, but that line just annoys me
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Because Doom multiplayer was great. (it was worse than Halo 4s multiplayer)
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I actually enjoy Doom’s multiplayer way more than I enjoyed Halo 4’s or Reach’s.
I’ve been playing since Halo CE. I’m a veteran Halo player. Halo is still great! Keep sprint. H5’s multiplayer is the best yet!
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What you just said, makes no sense. Halo 2 was going to have sprinting, but was cut due to animation errors, don’t act like I’m retarded.
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I’ve been playing since Halo CE. I’m a veteran Halo player. Halo is still great! Keep sprint. H5’s multiplayer is the best yet!
It should be limited sprinting, like 3 seconds.
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> > > The reason why sprint was added to halo was to make it more fast paced. Newer generations of gamers (me included) who didn’t grow up with halo are used to fast paced games such as battlefield, cod, and just about every other fps. It’s hard for a slow paced game like the older halos and even the newer ones to attract the gamers so they added sprint. To be honest I like sprint when I don’t have it I feel like a turtle with a gun. Sure you might not like it but your not everyone. 343 also has to appeal to the newer generations as well.
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> I grew up with the first three and I love the sprint ability so its not that flawed
No, it’s still flawed. The only difference between the two of you on the matter is that he hasn’t play the original games and doesn’t understand how sprint isn’t necessary and you have played the original games and you don’t understand how sprint isn’t necessary. That ignorance is what makes what he said flawed.