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> didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
wowowowowoww… this is too easy^^
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> Oh really OP? EVERYONE would be happy if there was no sprint? Including me and thousands of people who like it?
Cough minority cough cough
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this .gif is so old… but still great^^ xD
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> > > Oh really OP? EVERYONE would be happy if there was no sprint? Including me and thousands of people who like it?
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> OK so if some has played earlier halo games but doesn’t agree with you then they lack intelligence?
Checks service record. Sees that you started at 4 and dident play more then a few games on the mcc. congratulations sir, your opinion is now completely and utterly irrelevant.
Love the sprint topic, so unnecessary. Doom has it right, you walk but your walk has the speed of a person who’s running. A true badass (super) soldier.
i guess sprint its a good idea in halo that makes halo more dinamic
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> > > > Oh really OP? EVERYONE would be happy if there was no sprint? Including me and thousands of people who like it?
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> Checks service record. Sees that you started at 4 and dident play more then a few games on the mcc. congratulations sir, your opinion is now completely and utterly irrelevant.
Haha so just because of the fact THIS gamertag started then thats the be all and end all? Right, so alot of people havent played as guests on friends accounts? Or changed their gamertag?
You make some huge assumptions.
Not that it makes any difference to anything but i started playing in 2001. We would almost daily meet at a friends house to play. This pretty much continued through H2 and 3.
The fact you make such assumptions says it all about the way you view things. Open your mind to other possibilities, you may be surprised at what the world has to offer.
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> Makes no sense removing sprint at this point, its already been implemented in the last two games and removing it completely from arena would confuse new players, plus h5 has done a great job at balancing sprint (ie: health wont recharge if youre sprinting , and i feel you sprint slower if youre getting shot), lets not forget sprinting added with some abilities like sliding and thrusting bring new mechanic combos. I do hate spartan charge that thing takes 0 skills and mental thinking.
> Want to make halo, halo again? this is my wishlist:
> 1) Balance between competitive and social playlists
> 2) BTB maps (not forged)
> 3) working theather
> 4) Have fan favorite maps and playlists at launch
> 5) keep microtransactions but make really rare armor unlockable by challenges
> 6) halo reach armor customization
> 7) a -Yoink- worthy halo campaign
> 8) LAN?
> 9) Splitscreen (99% sure it will be possible with Xbox scorpio)
> Am i missing anything important?
Why on earth would you want microtransactions on a triple A game?
We paid $60 for the game itself!
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> > > Oh really OP? EVERYONE would be happy if there was no sprint? Including me and thousands of people who like it?
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> OK so if some has played earlier halo games but doesn’t agree with you then they lack intelligence?
It raises the skill cap to remove sprint, I would say that’s good for a pro who can strafe and aim, but for the normal people it’s a lot more fun to get into combat faster and atleast be able to fight back. More normal people than pros equals sprint stays.
Btb and Warzone should have sprint, but in arena I’m not sure.
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> > > > Oh really OP? EVERYONE would be happy if there was no sprint? Including me and thousands of people who like it?
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> Checks service record. Sees that you started at 4 and dident play more then a few games on the mcc. congratulations sir, your opinion is now completely and utterly irrelevant.
I don’t claim to be one of them people that “played Halo from the beginning but my service record can’t back it up because I have a different account now”. My service record goes all the way back to H2, where I played almost 6000 matches I might add, (It’d go back to H1 if they had some way of keeping a service record from back then.), and I like sprint.
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> > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> Smh. “Its there but its still an option” U can just umm…NOT SPRINT. U have the option to sprint. If u don’t wanna sprint then keep your greasy hands of the A button and stop complaining and filling up the top threads with your nonsensical bull@#$%. I played the old Halo’s too and when sprint was released in reach, guess what I did, I ADJUSTED TO IT. If you cant adjust to the new halo then maybe you should stop playing.
and what…be at a disadvantage while everyone around him is sprinting? thats a stupid thoughtless argument…i dont like AR/PISTOL starts…so what should i do? not use the ar or pistol?..maybe i should just spartan charge everyone…the issue is having things like that in the game to begin with…oh and by the way…most people have stopped playing…maybe not a good argument to use if you want people to play with in the next year or so
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> > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
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> > Except the maps are purposefully stretched out to accompany sprint, so that stretched maps will have the same sprint travel time as a non stretched map with just walking. So
> > not sprinting is punishing because the game had to be made around it.
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> Campaign maps aren’t. God I wish I could have had sprint on some old campaign misions(Looking at you Two Betrayals)
Lol I agree. That and The Library. I actually really liked Two Betrayals. It was long and a bit annoying but it was really fun going through it with my friend on legendary. The library was the same just more repetitive and annoying.
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> > > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > Smh. “Its there but its still an option” U can just umm…NOT SPRINT. U have the option to sprint. If u don’t wanna sprint then keep your greasy hands of the A button and stop complaining and filling up the top threads with your nonsensical bull@#$%. I played the old Halo’s too and when sprint was released in reach, guess what I did, I ADJUSTED TO IT. If you cant adjust to the new halo then maybe you should stop playing.
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> and what…be at a disadvantage while everyone around him is sprinting? thats a stupid thoughtless argument…i dont like AR/PISTOL starts…so what should i do? not use the ar or pistol?..maybe i should just spartan charge everyone…the issue is having things like that in the game to begin with…oh and by the way…most people have stopped playing…maybe not a good argument to use if you want people to play with in the next year or so
If the vast majority of the community hates sprint, why hasn’t non sprint forge maps been created to go with non sprint custome games where the entirety, (majority), of the halo population theoretically should be playing?
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> > > > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > > Smh. “Its there but its still an option” U can just umm…NOT SPRINT. U have the option to sprint. If u don’t wanna sprint then keep your greasy hands of the A button and stop complaining and filling up the top threads with your nonsensical bull@#$%. I played the old Halo’s too and when sprint was released in reach, guess what I did, I ADJUSTED TO IT. If you cant adjust to the new halo then maybe you should stop playing.
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> > and what…be at a disadvantage while everyone around him is sprinting? thats a stupid thoughtless argument…i dont like AR/PISTOL starts…so what should i do? not use the ar or pistol?..maybe i should just spartan charge everyone…the issue is having things like that in the game to begin with…oh and by the way…most people have stopped playing…maybe not a good argument to use if you want people to play with in the next year or so
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> If the vast majority of the community hates sprint, why hasn’t non sprint forge maps been created to go with non sprint custome games where the entirety, (majority), of the halo population theoretically should be playing?
well first of all…those kinds of maps do exist, second of all there isnt some big data base where you can select “no sprint map”, and thirdly its alot easier to just play another game than to just play custom games everyday…and quite frankly most of the arena maps would work fine without sprint they are so damn small…and any of the other abilities for that matter (thruster pack and spartan charge must die)…clamber seems to be the only ability the maps are actually based around…maybe you wouldnt be able make a few advanced jumps here and there with only clamber…but for the most part it would be fine
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> > > the playbut thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > Smh. “Its there but its still an option” U can just umm…NOT SPRINT. U have the option to sprint. If u don’t wanna sprint then keep your greasy hands of the A button and stop complaining and filling up the top threads with your nonsensical bull@#$%. I played the old Halo’s too and when sprint was released in reach, guess what I did, I ADJUSTED TO IT. If you cant adjust to the new halo then maybe you should stop playing.
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> and what…be at a disadvantage while everyone around him is sprinting? thats a stupid thoughtless argument…i dont like AR/PISTOL starts…so what should i do? not use the ar or pistol?..maybe i should just spartan charge everyone…the issue is having things like that in the game to begin with…oh and by the way…most people have stopped playing…maybe not a good argument to use if you want people to play with in the next year or so
I very much doubt just because you sprint and charge takes away suddenly double as many people play halo.
Dude what is your problem with sprint. You never suggested why it has no place in competitive Halo which was one of your points. You never said why the mechanic is bad or anything. Please go into more detail about what is actually wrong with sprint.
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> > > > > but thats the thing we are still keeping sprint, its there its still an option and if you wanted to play with it you could play warzone or custom games. thing is halos 1-3 were fine without sprint in the campaign and the arena aspect. What does sprint bring to those gamemodes that improve on the experience and dont just take away from it?
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> > > > Smh. “Its there but its still an option” U can just umm…NOT SPRINT. U have the option to sprint. If u don’t wanna sprint then keep your greasy hands of the A button and stop complaining and filling up the top threads with your nonsensical bull@#$%. I played the old Halo’s too and when sprint was released in reach, guess what I did, I ADJUSTED TO IT. If you cant adjust to the new halo then maybe you should stop playing.
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> > > and what…be at a disadvantage while everyone around him is sprinting? thats a stupid thoughtless argument…i dont like AR/PISTOL starts…so what should i do? not use the ar or pistol?..maybe i should just spartan charge everyone…the issue is having things like that in the game to begin with…oh and by the way…most people have stopped playing…maybe not a good argument to use if you want people to play with in the next year or so
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> well first of all…those kinds of maps do exist, second of all there isnt some big data base where you can select “no sprint map”, and thirdly its alot easier to just play another game than to just play custom games everyday…and quite frankly most of the arena maps would work fine without sprint they are so damn small…and any of the other abilities for that matter (thruster pack and spartan charge must die)…clamber seems to be the only ability the maps are actually based around…maybe you wouldnt be able make a few advanced jumps here and there with only clamber…but for the most part it would be fine
I don’t play custome games or get into forging. So I’m qunite ignorant to how the file share works and what not. But I was under the assumption that if a game type is made, i.e. Non Sprint, and labeled as such, it can easily be found in the files share search section. If this is indeed how it works, I would think there should be a plethora of non sprint maps and game types to go along with the “majority” of people that hate sprint.
Wasn’t that 343’s reason for making the toggle off sprint an option in custome games? (Or is that something that I am not remembering correctly? Like I said, I don’t forge or play custom games.)
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that sprint is necessary for Halo. Yes the original Halos did not have sprint, but in today’s games sprint is necessary. Imagine doing warzone with no sprint. It would take an eternity to cross the map. In campaign when I go back and play Halo 1 through 3 it feels slow paced now to an almost unbearable amount. Also new players who are entering into the franchise would not be entertained by the slower game play that no sprint offers.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I actually made it a point to play my first Warzone match without sprinting once. It worked just fine, even with Halo 5’s gimped base movement speed. If new players to the franchise can’t handle moving a little slower(like in the gameplay Halo was built on), then Halo just isn’t the franchise for them. That’s ok though. Not everyone is going to be a Halo fan. But, we shouldn’t be turning away long time fans of the franchise in hopes of maybe pleasing some newcomers. That has been the strategy for over half a decade now, and the population shows that it isn’t working. Trying to change and overhaul a working formula is not the way to continue a franchise.
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> > > > > > > > > > > And yet if it does not evolve then it will become stagnant and die. Just because the ability to code a sprint feature was not a thing or available in the past means we should ignore it now? Human beings can run, so why can we not run in games? If this was a platformer or adventure game you would do it with how fast you move the joystick.
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> > > > > > > > > > Yes. Because sprint wasn’t in the old Halo games for whatever reason, we should ignore it now.
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> > > > > > > > > > Everyone acts like continuing the Halo franchise is inherently some good thing that should be done no matter the cost. But, if we have to give up Halo’s soul just to get more Halo games, then what’s the point?
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> > > > > > > > > > If Halo stayed the same, and you deemed it too “stagnant”, and you lost interest in it, then that’s fine. You will have lost interest in the Halo franchise. But at this point you sound like you’ve already lost interest in Halo. You’re only interested in this Halo/modern-shooter hybrid thing that Halo has been turned into.
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> > > > > > > > This is very true. And if something as minor as sprint has made you lose interest in Halo (and that’s fine), maybe Halo isn’t for you anymore. Time to move on.
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> > > > > > > Sprint effects the game at the most fundamental level.
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> > > > > > Ugh stop being so dramatic. All you anti-sprinters just don’t like it because of weapon lowering. Don’t like sprint, simply don’t sprint.
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> > > > > You obviously don’t even have a grasp of the most basic effects sprint has.
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> > > > > Why are you even in a discussion thread about something you know nothing about?
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> > > > Most of them don’t. They make surface level arguments at best whereas anti-sprinters get into the nitty gritty.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I believe that sprint is necessary for Halo. Yes the original Halos did not have sprint, but in today’s games sprint is necessary. Imagine doing warzone with no sprint. It would take an eternity to cross the map. In campaign when I go back and play Halo 1 through 3 it feels slow paced now to an almost unbearable amount. Also new players who are entering into the franchise would not be entertained by the slower game play that no sprint offers.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I actually made it a point to play my first Warzone match without sprinting once. It worked just fine, even with Halo 5’s gimped base movement speed. If new players to the franchise can’t handle moving a little slower(like in the gameplay Halo was built on), then Halo just isn’t the franchise for them. That’s ok though. Not everyone is going to be a Halo fan. But, we shouldn’t be turning away long time fans of the franchise in hopes of maybe pleasing some newcomers. That has been the strategy for over half a decade now, and the population shows that it isn’t working. Trying to change and overhaul a working formula is not the way to continue a franchise.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > And yet if it does not evolve then it will become stagnant and die. Just because the ability to code a sprint feature was not a thing or available in the past means we should ignore it now? Human beings can run, so why can we not run in games? If this was a platformer or adventure game you would do it with how fast you move the joystick.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Yes. Because sprint wasn’t in the old Halo games for whatever reason, we should ignore it now.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Everyone acts like continuing the Halo franchise is inherently some good thing that should be done no matter the cost. But, if we have to give up Halo’s soul just to get more Halo games, then what’s the point?
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> > > > > > > > > > > If Halo stayed the same, and you deemed it too “stagnant”, and you lost interest in it, then that’s fine. You will have lost interest in the Halo franchise. But at this point you sound like you’ve already lost interest in Halo. You’re only interested in this Halo/modern-shooter hybrid thing that Halo has been turned into.
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> > > > > > > > > This is very true. And if something as minor as sprint has made you lose interest in Halo (and that’s fine), maybe Halo isn’t for you anymore. Time to move on.
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> > > > > > > > lol what?
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> > > > > > > > Sprint effects the game at the most fundamental level.
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> > > > > > > Ugh stop being so dramatic. All you anti-sprinters just don’t like it because of weapon lowering. Don’t like sprint, simply don’t sprint.
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> > > > > > Why are you even in a discussion thread about something you know nothing about?
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> > > > > Most of them don’t. They make surface level arguments at best whereas anti-sprinters get into the nitty gritty.
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> > > > That is the most infuriating part of this topic. It’s not like other debates where two educated, intelligent sides clash over a disagreement. This topic is simply one side being educated and aware of an issue while the other side is utterly oblivious.
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> > And yet, here you are with no points. Shame.
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> Agreed. Shame… -_-
What is either of us gonna say to sway the other? Seriously. There’s maybe 2-3 arguments for either side, and every point gets repeated over and over each and everyday on this board. What argument do I need at this point other than I like sprint and always wanted in Halo? What would you say? the maps are designed around it and just increase movement speed and that it lowers your weapon? Or how about the population sales are down because of sprint? or my personal favorite, sprint makes Halo not feel like Halo. Go play CS:GO (that dumb esports game you guys love to toss out there) or Doom if you guys are so upset over sprint. Maybe Halo just isn’t for you anymore.
The removal of 343 and the replacement with Certain Affinity will make halo halo again
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> > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
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> OH MY GOD! SHUT UP! When is someone going to have an original argument for or against sprint??
> Why is the OPTION to sprint so upsetting to you people?? you don’t have to use it. When you purists start whining about sprint and the other abilities, you just come across as old guys afraid of change. Evolve or get left behind. I’m really getting sick of all these threads. If you’re so disgusted with Halo and the direction it’s going, stop playing it. Seriously. Stop buying it. Stop playing. Stop coming to the forums posting the same nonsense over and over. The best way to get your point across would be to round up and organize the rest of the purists and boycott the game.
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