The sprint discussion thread

Games Halo 5: Guardians
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> > > > The reason why sprint was added to halo was to make it more fast paced. Newer generations of gamers (me included) who didn’t grow up with halo are used to fast paced games such as battlefield, cod, and just about every other fps. It’s hard for a slow paced game like the older halos and even the newer ones to attract the gamers so they added sprint. To be honest I like sprint when I don’t have it I feel like a turtle with a gun. Sure you might not like it but your not everyone. 343 also has to appeal to the newer generations as well.
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> > > Flawed argument. That’s probably because you haven’t grown up with the older games, so sprint is all you know. Everyone and their mother says the new Doom game is one of the fastest paced games out now and it has no sprint. The masses don’t know what they want, they only think they know, that’s why it’s 343’s job to show you want you want. Making a fast paced game without sprint is insanely easy, but nobody - including the devs - cares to think for themselves.
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> > Doom is nothing but pure sprint, only difference is that your weapon does not lower. Seriously, crazy fast. If that is not sprinting, I dont know what is. The option to walk or run is natural. You would not be at good aiming while running, and that is a fact.
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> > I am also not rhe biggest fan of Halo 5, but sprint has nothing to do with the problems that plague the future of Halo.
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> I’m curious, how would you define sprint as a gameplay mechanic? If running in Doom is sprinting, is Halo with 200% movement speed sprinting, too? You see, there might be a conflict of definitions here as for many people the definition of sprint includes having to lower your weapon. If you don’t need to lower your weapon, there’s no sprint.

What I don’t understand … Halo gives away Sprint boosts, in 3 different levels, each getting better as the level gets higher. Likewise many weaThatpons give speed boosts, along with health or damage boosts.

That being said, why do we, does Halo, need a permanent sprint? Why can’t you just save your boosts & use them? That is what they are there for? Right? You are allowed to go to a REQ station while alive, simply re-activate another boost. Having played since Day 1, I have acquired over 425+/- L1 Speed boosts, 400+/- L2 Speed boosts & 350 +/- Speed boosts. I say “+/-” because I use them, often, then I get more from the REQ’s I get; keeping accurate count isn’t possible.

In closing, there is no need for a “Sprint” in today’s Halo games, simply because Halo gives us the Sprint option all day long. The issue at hand is, the user. The user choosing to sell their Sprint REQ’s; thus not having access to a Sprint option, unlike those of us that play “¿Conservatively?” and save what the game gives us.

If Spartans would only realize the gift we have been gifted is truly a “bird in the hand”, perhaps then we wouldn’t appraise it’s worth as “two in the bush”. Save your Speed boosts. Use your Speed boosts. Then you’ll notice how awesome the game is; not needing a Spartan that can out run a speeding bullet, yet can if he drinks his “purple speed juice boost”.

I’m all about play the game with what your given & not create silly solutions like my generation only plays with fast paced boosted speed freakazoid FPS’s. If that truly is the case, may I suggest rapid decompression & detoxification from your gaming life for well over 6months. Because your answer is the answer an addict gives, any addict for any addiction. Please, help your family & friends. Start mowing the lawn, t miming the trees, get a suntan, get a haircut, find a “mate”, go to a concert, interact into humanity. But do not say that your generation requires fast paced FPS’s because that’s how you grew up. I feel for you. I’m the OG generation. We played Pong on the Intelevision, it was AWESOME! Pitfall on the Intelevision rocked too. The Atari 600 was it? Then the Apple IIS, playing Oregon Trail, whoop … yeah, we all had our first cars at 16, playing CB tag. Our own apartments at 16/17.

See what I mean? Notch your speed down, there’s an entire world out here that you might be missing. As Ghandi once said, what color is the wind?

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> > > > > > Honest question. I define sprint as moving at a speed obviously faster than a walking pace. The lowering weapon “sprint” in a game only signifies that there is a distinct differeance in walking and running within the games physics, which genrally implies that most things are less accurate at accelerated speeds.
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> > > > > You know that the Spartans’ “walking pace” in the game is 16 miles per hour, right?
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> > > > What is their sprinting speed?
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> The lore is ridiculously crazy though, they have been recorded to run at 60 mph on numerous occasion (Spartan IIs) and 30 mph (Spartan IV). If anything, sprint has been nerfed quite a bit if not severely to create a balanced game play.

Wait if a Ghost is let say like 40 mph. A Spartan II can maybe out run one. A Warthog I remember is like 70 mph so it is slower. If sprint is suppose to be like 2 times faster then that means a Spartan II would be around 25-30 mph while a IV would be 10-15 mph.

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> > To comment on the sales decline, everyone is forgetting one major thing; halo is on the xbox
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> > The Xbox one is objectively weaker than the ps4 and this is a clear statement in the public eye. The ps4 is the more popular console during this generation, it has popular exclusives, it has all of the marketing deals with popular games, the Xbox can barely compete with it in terms of sales.
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> > Halo was so popular because it was on the popular console at the time with little competition. Due to the halo fans eye of the series at this moment in time, many PlayStation players see no incentive in purchasing an Xbox because the past two halo games have been played up to be the worst in the franchise.
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> > Dont kid yourself in thinking that people aren’t buying halo 5 because sprint is in it.
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> At release of H5G, the XBone had more units sold than the 360 at the time when Halo 3 was released, yet the game itself only sold half as many copies as its predecessor.
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> And stop it with this “no competition” bogus, Halo 3 had just as much if not more competition than H5G. It released against CoD4, the Orange Box and Bioshock, Gears of War was less than a year old, and games like Frontlines: Fuel of War, Quake Wars and R6 Vegas 2 were just around the corner. It just sold better because it was the better game, that’s it.

You can’t say that He had more sales than H5G because H5G was on a significantly less popular console and proceed to say that H3 had more sales because it was the better game. Total contradiction.

There are -Yoink- games on 360 that did relatively good because they were on the better console. That doesn’t mean they were better than games like Doom or Overwatch, they just had a larger audience to market to.

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> > > To comment on the sales decline, everyone is forgetting one major thing; halo is on the xbox
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> > > The Xbox one is objectively weaker than the ps4 and this is a clear statement in the public eye. The ps4 is the more popular console during this generation, it has popular exclusives, it has all of the marketing deals with popular games, the Xbox can barely compete with it in terms of sales.
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> > > Halo was so popular because it was on the popular console at the time with little competition. Due to the halo fans eye of the series at this moment in time, many PlayStation players see no incentive in purchasing an Xbox because the past two halo games have been played up to be the worst in the franchise.
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> > > Dont kid yourself in thinking that people aren’t buying halo 5 because sprint is in it.
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> > At release of H5G, the XBone had more units sold than the 360 at the time when Halo 3 was released, yet the game itself only sold half as many copies as its predecessor.
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> > And stop it with this “no competition” bogus, Halo 3 had just as much if not more competition than H5G. It released against CoD4, the Orange Box and Bioshock, Gears of War was less than a year old, and games like Frontlines: Fuel of War, Quake Wars and R6 Vegas 2 were just around the corner. It just sold better because it was the better game, that’s it.
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> You can’t say that He had more sales than H5G because H5G was on a significantly less popular console and proceed to say that H3 had more sales because it was the better game. Total contradiction.
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> There are -Yoink- games on 360 that did relatively good because they were on the better console. That doesn’t mean they were better than games like Doom or Overwatch, they just had a larger audience to market to.

Love me some overwatch

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> > > To comment on the sales decline, everyone is forgetting one major thing; halo is on the xbox
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> > > Halo was so popular because it was on the popular console at the time with little competition. Due to the halo fans eye of the series at this moment in time, many PlayStation players see no incentive in purchasing an Xbox because the past two halo games have been played up to be the worst in the franchise.
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> > > Dont kid yourself in thinking that people aren’t buying halo 5 because sprint is in it.
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> > At release of H5G, the XBone had more units sold than the 360 at the time when Halo 3 was released, yet the game itself only sold half as many copies as its predecessor.
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> > And stop it with this “no competition” bogus, Halo 3 had just as much if not more competition than H5G. It released against CoD4, the Orange Box and Bioshock, Gears of War was less than a year old, and games like Frontlines: Fuel of War, Quake Wars and R6 Vegas 2 were just around the corner. It just sold better because it was the better game, that’s it.
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> You can’t say that He had more sales than H5G because H5G was on a significantly less popular console and proceed to say that H3 had more sales because it was the better game. Total contradiction.
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> There are -Yoink- games on 360 that did relatively good because they were on the better console. That doesn’t mean they were better than games like Doom or Overwatch, they just had a larger audience to market to.

One thing Halo 5 had failed at really, a larger audience like the 360 had.

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> > > > > > Honest question. I define sprint as moving at a speed obviously faster than a walking pace. The lowering weapon “sprint” in a game only signifies that there is a distinct differeance in walking and running within the games physics, which genrally implies that most things are less accurate at accelerated speeds.
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Are you sure. Was Kelly not the fastest Spartan lll clocked at about 40 mph. On topic, sprint being removed won’t make Halo again, there’s more things than just sprint need attention.

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> > > > > > > Honest question. I define sprint as moving at a speed obviously faster than a walking pace. The lowering weapon “sprint” in a game only signifies that there is a distinct differeance in walking and running within the games physics, which genrally implies that most things are less accurate at accelerated speeds.
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> > > > > > You know that the Spartans’ “walking pace” in the game is 16 miles per hour, right?
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> Are you sure. Was Kelly not the fastest Spartan lll clocked at about 40 mph. On topic, sprint being removed won’t make Halo again, there’s more things than just sprint need attention.

Remember that the suits can give the factor of 5. If I remember it goes to our speed making them even faster. and I don’t see sprint being removed since like you said theres more things to worry about like Elite’s and Split screen.

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> You can’t say that He had more sales than H5G because H5G was on a significantly less popular console and proceed to say that H3 had more sales because it was the better game. Total contradiction.

Did you even read the post? There were more Xbox One’s sold when H5G released (15 Million) than there were 360’s sold when Halo 3 released (13 Million).

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i have not read all 190 page’s since it was taking to long then to read then all.

game’s need to evolution with there time and to make a game big each year like halo cod and battlefield the AAA game’s more.
halo is 15 years old .
cod is 13 years old.
battlefield 14 years old.

halo is the oldest shooter game from the AAA game’s
and how there have done it is to change things and add new things in the game like make sprint in campaign and multiplayer.

i have not start from halo 1 like some others but i still love halo and how there change things is good that some players like the old school way is there choose but there are plenty off players that wane play the new school way from halo and hate the old school way.
if you like to play old school again then not use sprint or play MCC there you have plenty off old school campaign’s and multiplayer playlist.

and if you are a true halo fan and player you wane that halo keeps coming out each new year with a new halo game.

this is my opinion.

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> Are you sure. Was Kelly not the fastest Spartan lll clocked at about 40 mph.

Kelly was able to sustain a running speed of 40mph. John once ran at 60mph, but ruptured his Achilles tendon as a consequence.

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> i have not read all 190 page’s since it was taking to long then to read then all.
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> game’s need to evolution with there time and to make a game big each year like halo cod and battlefield the AAA game’s more.
> halo is 15 years old .
> cod is 13 years old.
> battlefield 14 years old.
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> halo is the oldest shooter game from the AAA game’s
> and how there have done it is to change things and add new things in the game like make sprint in campaign and multiplayer.
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> i have not start from halo 1 like some others but i still love halo and how there change things is good that some players like the old school way is there choose but there are plenty off players that wane play the new school way from halo and hate the old school way.
> if you like to play old school again then not use sprint or play MCC there you have plenty off old school campaign’s and multiplayer playlist.
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> and if you are a true halo fan and player you wane that halo keeps coming out each new year with a new halo game.
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> this is my opinion.

MCC is working but still broken with bugs and some Matchmaking issues.

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well, i think its very op in
Don’t get me wrong I had fun playing halo 3(my first halo and firs Xbox game) but ounce I got to other games like battlefield and even cod I noticed how slow the gameplay actually was. and i really like tihs game though. i hope the bug fixed soon

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Did he torn his Achilles in Fall of Reach.

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Excellent, the game needs even faster movement then. Dons flame retardent suit lol

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> > > Are you sure. Was Kelly not the fastest Spartan lll clocked at about 40 mph.
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and bigger maps. Practically bigger every thing.

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Yes, Halo Wiki specifies the source as: “Halo: The Fall of Reach - pages 264 page 299 2010 edition”

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Just remember that Spartans are documented to sustain full accuracy while running up to at least 33 miles per hour. So no lore reason for lowering their gun when they’re basically jogging ingame…

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Yeah I remember now from my Audible. He torn it when he testing the Mark V suit and Colonel Ackerson was trying to kill him and Cortana.

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> > > > Are you sure. Was Kelly not the fastest Spartan lll clocked at about 40 mph.
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I agree. I’ve always wanted to shoot while running. Fingers crossed for Halo 6.

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and yet they aren’t going the speed there suppose to be in the lore.