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Not this again.
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> > > > Why didn’t this thread stay dead?
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> > > Because a lot of people have problem with sprint.
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> > Because a lot of the same 10 people have a huge problem with sprint.
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> “The same 10 people have a huge problem with sprint.”
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> There are way more people that have a huge problem with sprint being in Halo than just 10 people.
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> Population numbers are a prime example.
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> Oh and Halo 5 was free for 2 weeks with the game not even being 1 year into the games life span. Also it was 50% off, just put that into perspective and think a little.
It was a joke referring to the same 10 people post bumping this thread way past its death.
My persinnal opinion: I love halo five. I don’t play it everyday every month because there are other great games to play. I think sprint is a shadow to hide behind for every one looking to blame 343 for something. That’s just me, no one rip me apart for it.
P.s. overall, the community remains a good , large , positive and hilarious at times group of nerds.
Sprint helps you get away the spartan the abilities were cool but not as usefull as constant sprint
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> > > There is no data that supports the notion that the majority of players enjoy sprint. In fact, population numbers express the exact opposite. Obviously neither side has concrete proof (we can’t possibly determine why players still play and why they don’t), but player retention has been on a major downward spiral since H4. That’s something you just can’t ignore/dismiss.
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> > To be truthful, Halo’s capability to retain players has been steadily decreasing since Halo 2. Not to mention, it’s impossible to attach significance to any single mechanic when so much has changed. Not only in Halo, but also in the shooter landscape around it. The population data only tells the popularity has decreased over the years, but it offers no explanation as to why that is.
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> > Really, we just don’t know what the majority of players thinks of sprint. Anybody who thinks the majority is on their side is not being honest to themselves.
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> Not perfect but should definitely be a big hint to what people want
I’d possibly be more inclined to believe those results, had the bigger poll from the Halo feedback program not released with so drastically conflicting results. It’s, of course, debatable whether the question was posed neutrally enough to not skew the results. Not to mention that we have to consider the demographics of these polls. TeamBeyond is a very competitive community, so it’s not surprise that almost no one there wants sprint, but it certainly doesn’t represent the average Halo player. Halo Waypoint and /r/Halo are possibly more well rounded, but Waypoint at least has bias towards people with the sole purpose of reporting what they think are problems. And if my memory serves, somebody in the competitive community tweeted that Waypoint poll, which is why it got such an unusually high amount of responses. However, as a result, it might also be biased towards competitive players.
Sampling an unbiased group is a really difficult thing to do. That’s why I don’t put a huge amount of importance on any of these polls. An in-game poll is probably the best you could do in an ideal situation, though even there is the danger of bias towards people who’ve stuck around, and therefore are more likely to like all the mechanics the game has to offer.
We have to remind ourselves that when we speak of players in general, we’re speaking of a group of millions in size, most of whom likely aren’t even hardcore Halo fans. If predicting this group was as easy as some people want to believe, we’d always know what the next big game is going to be, and no triple-A game would ever be unsuccessful.
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> > > > > > Halo has not been halo since halo 2.
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> > > > > have you somehow forgotten halo 3?
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> > > > H3 sucked.
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> > > Honestly just leave. Halo 3 was the best Halo to date. It blended everything perfectly, brought new weapons, introduced forge, had awesome BTB maps, and a truly amazing physics engine. Halo 3 was, and always will be, better than Halo 2 in my opinion.
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> > The firing rate on the pistol was terrible! Swat was a pain in the -Yoink-! The hit boxes were almost non existent! And I felt like I was walking through a thick syrup.
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> I have to agree that the pistol in Halo 3 was probably the worst pistol in Halo history and next to useless. Although Swat is completely skill (and connection) based. I don’t know if this is true, but I think what you were talking about that the hit-boxes are very small was because of the fact that instead of using hitscan (if you fire, whatever is in your reticle takes damage) the game used projectile bullets that had to travel, albeit very fast, to it’s target. I personally feel like projectile bullets are better for Halo because in open maps like Sandtrap, if the game used hitscan, if you were in an open area it was a death sentence. Anyone could easily land every hit with their BR on you and it would be near impossible to survive. And I, personally, again, think that sprint doesn’t belong in Halo, and not because of anything that seriously affects gameplay. If Halo didn’t have sprint, it would be drastically different compared to games like CoD and Battlefield, and it would be its own unique experience, which I deeply value in a game. However, I’m not completely against thrusters from Halo 5. I think that abilities like Spartan charge, ground pound, sliding, and clamber don’t belong in Halo, but thrusters on their own would make the game very fun, but still simple. Only basic movements and the ability to dodge around grenades and stuff.
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> And please, 343, don’t add wall-running…
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> Listen, I don’t hate Smart-scope. But why do I float in the air when I use it?! Why doesn’t my Spartan do that any other time? It makes no sense!!
H2 swat was lots of fun but in H3 I rarely even got a point blank range kill even when I meleed. The BR in H5 is the reason why btb isn’t fun anymore because it has a sniper reticul and the shots even look like sniper shots! When I try getting cross map kills with the H2 BR it’s harder because it works differently and the shots are less likely to get the head, the H4 BR was basically the same as the H2 BR with a different skin. As for the new abilities they’re mostly there to counter the pin point accuracy of the BR and pistol and I hated bouncing off ledges in the older Halos especially in CE when I just wanted that -Yoinking!- rocket launcher on damnation. If you don’t like floating when you zoom you can turn that on and off while playing! You just go to that mini menu in-game that gives you the option to leave and you go to controls and you can turn that off.
Are you kidding? Sprint has a HUGE part of multiplayer in Halo 5. you can run away from the enemy faster, you can go for the assassinations faster, they can get places faster, get to the special weapons faster, and spartan charge enemies (Yes granted that you said that it would be a good add-in to the other game). It’s absurd thinking that it DOESN’T have an effect on Halo multiplayer. Agreed that it can be annoying, it is Although, have it customizable in custom games would be a great add on. Spartan abilities, like in Reach, made me think that Reach has the best online matchmaking in all of Halo (Yes, I’m saying it de-throned Halo 2). If we had something like Reach, that would make Halo 6 a great game.
- Cough * sorry guys I had to skip 190 pages of pure cancer to tell you guys my opinion, which doesn’t have worth, should be taken by offense. However, I wanted to say that I’ve played Halo Reach first, (I played the older ones too, but later) (Yeah I’m a tumor who didn’t play halo like a cool kid) but I did decent on Reach. I wasn’t a demi-god of halo, but I wasn’t pathetic. Halo 5, I can still carry my own weight, but not the same as Reach. I believe that sprint is a game changer, but not something to cry about. My personal experiences with sprint were more noticeable on Reach, when sprint was more of a resource than a given, but I never complained about using sprint on Halo 5. The only thing I personally have a problem with is the control scheme (which is completely different topic), and actually, I’ve never looked at sprint as an advantage/disadvantage. If anything, this thread taught me to be more mindful of the use of sprint.
All you gotta do is not sprint. Most people that like sprint play better and find better ways to get around while people who dont sprint take basic ways to get somewhere
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> > The reason why sprint was added to halo was to make it more fast paced. Newer generations of gamers (me included) who didn’t grow up with halo are used to fast paced games such as battlefield, cod, and just about every other fps. It’s hard for a slow paced game like the older halos and even the newer ones to attract the gamers so they added sprint. To be honest I like sprint when I don’t have it I feel like a turtle with a gun. Sure you might not like it but your not everyone. 343 also has to appeal to the newer generations as well.
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> Flawed argument. That’s probably because you haven’t grown up with the older games, so sprint is all you know. Everyone and their mother says the new Doom game is one of the fastest paced games out now and it has no sprint. The masses don’t know what they want, they only think they know, that’s why it’s 343’s job to show you want you want. Making a fast paced game without sprint is insanely easy, but nobody - including the devs - cares to think for themselves.
Doom is nothing but pure sprint, only difference is that your weapon does not lower. Seriously, crazy fast. If that is not sprinting, I dont know what is. The option to walk or run is natural. You would not be at good aiming while running, and that is a fact.
I am also not rhe biggest fan of Halo 5, but sprint has nothing to do with the problems that plague the future of Halo.
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> > > The reason why sprint was added to halo was to make it more fast paced. Newer generations of gamers (me included) who didn’t grow up with halo are used to fast paced games such as battlefield, cod, and just about every other fps. It’s hard for a slow paced game like the older halos and even the newer ones to attract the gamers so they added sprint. To be honest I like sprint when I don’t have it I feel like a turtle with a gun. Sure you might not like it but your not everyone. 343 also has to appeal to the newer generations as well.
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> > Flawed argument. That’s probably because you haven’t grown up with the older games, so sprint is all you know. Everyone and their mother says the new Doom game is one of the fastest paced games out now and it has no sprint. The masses don’t know what they want, they only think they know, that’s why it’s 343’s job to show you want you want. Making a fast paced game without sprint is insanely easy, but nobody - including the devs - cares to think for themselves.
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> Doom is nothing but pure sprint, only difference is that your weapon does not lower. Seriously, crazy fast. If that is not sprinting, I dont know what is. The option to walk or run is natural. You would not be at good aiming while running, and that is a fact.
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> I am also not rhe biggest fan of Halo 5, but sprint has nothing to do with the problems that plague the future of Halo.
I’m curious, how would you define sprint as a gameplay mechanic? If running in Doom is sprinting, is Halo with 200% movement speed sprinting, too? You see, there might be a conflict of definitions here as for many people the definition of sprint includes having to lower your weapon. If you don’t need to lower your weapon, there’s no sprint.
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> > > > The reason why sprint was added to halo was to make it more fast paced. Newer generations of gamers (me included) who didn’t grow up with halo are used to fast paced games such as battlefield, cod, and just about every other fps. It’s hard for a slow paced game like the older halos and even the newer ones to attract the gamers so they added sprint. To be honest I like sprint when I don’t have it I feel like a turtle with a gun. Sure you might not like it but your not everyone. 343 also has to appeal to the newer generations as well.
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> > > Flawed argument. That’s probably because you haven’t grown up with the older games, so sprint is all you know. Everyone and their mother says the new Doom game is one of the fastest paced games out now and it has no sprint. The masses don’t know what they want, they only think they know, that’s why it’s 343’s job to show you want you want. Making a fast paced game without sprint is insanely easy, but nobody - including the devs - cares to think for themselves.
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> > Doom is nothing but pure sprint, only difference is that your weapon does not lower. Seriously, crazy fast. If that is not sprinting, I dont know what is. The option to walk or run is natural. You would not be at good aiming while running, and that is a fact.
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> > I am also not rhe biggest fan of Halo 5, but sprint has nothing to do with the problems that plague the future of Halo.
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> I’m curious, how would you define sprint as a gameplay mechanic? If running in Doom is sprinting, is Halo with 200% movement speed sprinting, too? You see, there might be a conflict of definitions here as for many people the definition of sprint includes having to lower your weapon. If you don’t need to lower your weapon, there’s no sprint.
Wait, why would people get confused that sprinting includes lowering your weapon? We had lowering our weapons since CE and in Red vs Blue.
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> > > > The reason why sprint was added to halo was to make it more fast paced. Newer generations of gamers (me included) who didn’t grow up with halo are used to fast paced games such as battlefield, cod, and just about every other fps. It’s hard for a slow paced game like the older halos and even the newer ones to attract the gamers so they added sprint. To be honest I like sprint when I don’t have it I feel like a turtle with a gun. Sure you might not like it but your not everyone. 343 also has to appeal to the newer generations as well.
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> > > Flawed argument. That’s probably because you haven’t grown up with the older games, so sprint is all you know. Everyone and their mother says the new Doom game is one of the fastest paced games out now and it has no sprint. The masses don’t know what they want, they only think they know, that’s why it’s 343’s job to show you want you want. Making a fast paced game without sprint is insanely easy, but nobody - including the devs - cares to think for themselves.
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> > Doom is nothing but pure sprint, only difference is that your weapon does not lower. Seriously, crazy fast. If that is not sprinting, I dont know what is. The option to walk or run is natural. You would not be at good aiming while running, and that is a fact.
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> > I am also not rhe biggest fan of Halo 5, but sprint has nothing to do with the problems that plague the future of Halo.
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> I’m curious, how would you define sprint as a gameplay mechanic? If running in Doom is sprinting, is Halo with 200% movement speed sprinting, too? You see, there might be a conflict of definitions here as for many people the definition of sprint includes having to lower your weapon. If you don’t need to lower your weapon, there’s no sprint.
Honest question. I define sprint as moving at a speed obviously faster than a walking pace. The lowering weapon “sprint” in a game only signifies that there is a distinct differeance in walking and running within the games physics, which genrally implies that most things are less accurate at accelerated speeds.
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> To comment on the sales decline, everyone is forgetting one major thing; halo is on the xbox
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> The Xbox one is objectively weaker than the ps4 and this is a clear statement in the public eye. The ps4 is the more popular console during this generation, it has popular exclusives, it has all of the marketing deals with popular games, the Xbox can barely compete with it in terms of sales.
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> Halo was so popular because it was on the popular console at the time with little competition. Due to the halo fans eye of the series at this moment in time, many PlayStation players see no incentive in purchasing an Xbox because the past two halo games have been played up to be the worst in the franchise.
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> Dont kid yourself in thinking that people aren’t buying halo 5 because sprint is in it.
At release of H5G, the XBone had more units sold than the 360 at the time when Halo 3 was released, yet the game itself only sold half as many copies as its predecessor.
And stop it with this “no competition” bogus, Halo 3 had just as much if not more competition than H5G. It released against CoD4, the Orange Box and Bioshock, Gears of War was less than a year old, and games like Frontlines: Fuel of War, Quake Wars and R6 Vegas 2 were just around the corner. It just sold better because it was the better game, that’s it.
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> Honest question. I define sprint as moving at a speed obviously faster than a walking pace. The lowering weapon “sprint” in a game only signifies that there is a distinct differeance in walking and running within the games physics, which genrally implies that most things are less accurate at accelerated speeds.
You know that the Spartans’ “walking pace” in the games is 16 miles per hour, right?
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What is their sprinting speed?
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Around 24 miles per hour.
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wow that’s just fast.
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Ok, even though I am not sold on their top speed of sprint, they are moving much faster at 24 mph, so by moving faster their coordination would decreasee, correct?
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> wow that’s just fast.
The lore is ridiculously crazy though, they have been recorded to run at 60 mph on numerous occasion (Spartan IIs) and 30 mph (Spartan IV). If anything, sprint has been nerfed quite a bit if not severely to create a balanced game play.