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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > O.o
> > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
> >
> >
> > sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
>
>
> Unless there’s vehicles in the area, in a game without sprint they don’t make areas in campaign gigantic, so it wouldn’t take you a long time to “explore”. You’re starting to sound like you never played the original games.
>
>
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > O.o
> > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > >
> > >
> > > You know missions don’t have any set length, right? One game could’ve had 20 short missions, but that doesn’t mean it was longer than one with 10 long missions. Plus, like 3 of Halo 5’s “missions” were just areas you talk in.
> >
> >
> > ture but it has a set area of were you can go
>
>
> Not sure what you mean…
i have played them and the area your in is a set area for the mission you cant go out of it and if you need to run for cover and you cant sprint well you’ll get shot and die while walking to cover
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > > > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
> > >
> > >
> > > sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
> >
> >
> > Unless there’s vehicles in the area, in a game without sprint they don’t make areas in campaign gigantic, so it wouldn’t take you a long time to “explore”. You’re starting to sound like you never played the original games.
> >
> >
> >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You know missions don’t have any set length, right? One game could’ve had 20 short missions, but that doesn’t mean it was longer than one with 10 long missions. Plus, like 3 of Halo 5’s “missions” were just areas you talk in.
> > >
> > >
> > > ture but it has a set area of were you can go
> >
> >
> > Not sure what you mean…
>
>
> i have played them and the area your in is a set area for the mission you cant go out of it and if you need to run for cover and you cant sprint well you’ll get shot and die while walking to cover
Never had that problem in the old’s.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > O.o
> > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > >
> > >
> > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> >
> >
> > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
>
>
> sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
Guess what: You also can with a Ghost, or Warthog or even with - Shock! - a higher base movement speed.
You still have not provided a single argument why sprint in Halo is even beneficial, let alone needed.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > O.o
> > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > >
> > >
> > > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
> >
> >
> > sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
>
>
> Guess what: You also can with a Ghost, or Warthog or even with - Shock! - a higher base movement speed.
>
> You still have not provided a single argument why sprint in Halo is even beneficial, let alone needed.
ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
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> > The arguement of how halo “”"""“stole”"""" sprint from cod is just as believable as saying that halo “”"“stole”"" the first person shooting style from doom or wolfenestein
>
>
> Well
>
> It did…
So true. Halo was made to mimic classic arena shooters such as Doom and Quake. They didn’t have sprint and they succeeded. Reach put sprint in and failed compared to Halo 3. Every Halo game sense had seen worse and worse player counts and purchases.
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> > Putting a classic game mode is the developers admitting there stuff does haven’t the magic that the previous guys did. It’s a tough decision to make, but one I think 343i needs to make in order, at least, preserve the legacy of Halo for future titles.
>
>
> I dont think it necessarily means that “it doesnt have the magic” more that a significant number of players really want it in. They did it in H4.
They do that in a crap ton of games.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > > > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
> > >
> > >
> > > sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
> >
> >
> > Unless there’s vehicles in the area, in a game without sprint they don’t make areas in campaign gigantic, so it wouldn’t take you a long time to “explore”. You’re starting to sound like you never played the original games.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > You know missions don’t have any set length, right? One game could’ve had 20 short missions, but that doesn’t mean it was longer than one with 10 long missions. Plus, like 3 of Halo 5’s “missions” were just areas you talk in.
> > >
> > >
> > > ture but it has a set area of were you can go
> >
> >
> > Not sure what you mean…
>
>
> i have played them and the area your in is a set area for the mission you cant go out of it and if you need to run for cover and you cant sprint well you’ll get shot and die while walking to cover
I personally don’t remember encountering that problem often (not at all really). Probably because - as you don’t seem to realize - maps and levels are made for the mechanics in the game. The first three games didn’t have sprint so cover isn’t as spaced out whereas in games with sprint, the cover in campaign levels is more spread because you can get to them faster.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > > > > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
> > >
> > >
> > > Unless there’s vehicles in the area, in a game without sprint they don’t make areas in campaign gigantic, so it wouldn’t take you a long time to “explore”. You’re starting to sound like you never played the original games.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > You know missions don’t have any set length, right? One game could’ve had 20 short missions, but that doesn’t mean it was longer than one with 10 long missions. Plus, like 3 of Halo 5’s “missions” were just areas you talk in.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ture but it has a set area of were you can go
> > >
> > >
> > > Not sure what you mean…
> >
> >
> > i have played them and the area your in is a set area for the mission you cant go out of it and if you need to run for cover and you cant sprint well you’ll get shot and die while walking to cover
>
>
> I personally don’t remember encountering that problem often (not at all really). Probably because - as you don’t seem to realize - maps and levels are made for the mechanics in the game. The first three games didn’t have sprint so cover isn’t as spaced out whereas in games with sprint, the cover in campaign levels is more spread because you can get to them faster.
true but i encountered this problem many times
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > > > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
> > >
> > >
> > > sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
> >
> >
> > Guess what: You also can with a Ghost, or Warthog or even with - Shock! - a higher base movement speed.
> >
> > You still have not provided a single argument why sprint in Halo is even beneficial, let alone needed.
>
>
> ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
Because the most successful Halo’s to date DIDN’T have sprint. The Halo community was satisfied for years until the added sprint. Ever sense it was added, the community, sales, and player count has dropped exponentially. Because most threads on Waypoint are about removing sprint. Because most veterans and critics say remove it. Because it ruined the flow of the game. If Halo 1, 2, & 3 were so great and the sales of every Halo prior to ODST has suffered, why not go back to what was working rather than saying the old way is dead? Only makes sense.
If you take away sprint and bring back a true classic Halo shooter, the veterans will come back, new people will love it (just look at Overwatch… no sprint), and the current players may stop whining. The only people that will suffer are the 343 suck-ups. The remaining 95% will be content.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sprint needs to stay and armor abilities like halo 4 and reach need to come back
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > whats the point of being a “super solider” spartan if you cant run or don’t have any abilities?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Super soldiers should be able to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > yes and also sprint and have armor abilities
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sprint removes the ability to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > not really you can still move quickly
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Not while shooting.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > ture but we still need sprint
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Underage user alert.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > im not underage just cause i think sprint is needed
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > How is it “needed”.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > how is it not halo 3-1 no sprint which made the games take so long to complete for the campaign
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > O.o
> > > > > > > The campaigns in Halo 1-3 took so long to complete because the campaigns were actually longer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > no halo 2 and 3 10 missions halo 5 15
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes, and all of them are half as long/large as any mission from Halo 3.
> > > > > Also, Halo 2 had 15 missions.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > sprint is still better to have then to not have and oh didnt know that with sprint you can explore an area and have it not take like 30 minutes
> > >
> > >
> > > Guess what: You also can with a Ghost, or Warthog or even with - Shock! - a higher base movement speed.
> > >
> > > You still have not provided a single argument why sprint in Halo is even beneficial, let alone needed.
> >
> >
> > ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
>
>
> Because the most successful Halo’s to date DIDN’T have sprint. The Halo community was satisfied for years until the added sprint. Ever sense it was added, the community, sales, and player count has dropped exponentially. Because most threads on Waypoint are about removing sprint. Because most veterans and critics say remove it. Because it ruined the flow of the game. If Halo 1, 2, & 3 were so great and the sales of every Halo prior to ODST has suffered, why not go back to what was working rather than saying the old way is dead? Only makes sense.
>
> If you take away sprint and bring back a true classic Halo shooter, the veterans will come back, new people will love it (just look at Overwatch… no sprint), and the current players may stop whining. The only people that will suffer are the 343 suck-ups. The remaining 95% will be content.
so just cause a group of people dont like some thing remove it what about people who do like it no no no because thats the same reason cortanas alive
halo 4 she die fans wanted her back so they had to bring her back why dont we let 343 make halo instead of us saying there should be no sprint (not me though) or bring back cortana
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> Why have the devs continued it if it’s hurting halo so much? Why did the creators themselves change it? Why would they move away from h3 and make reach, h4, and h5 which all resemble each other in one way or bother? Are the devs really dumb? Or is there something they see that we don’t as to why they continue the trend? You even see the devs themselves play and comment that they love the originals, why not copy off it? Is it just stubborn management?
Here’s a comment from Josh Holmes on the matter:
> Going back to sprint… why have it in Halo?
>
> As a Spartan, it makes sense that you can push yourself in a situation where survival is imperative. It’s an action that feels natural in the context of a firefight. It’s the extra gear that a Spartan draws upon if they focus purely on mobility and speed.
> It creates opportunities and meaningful choices on offense and defense. On offense you can commit to an aggressive push or flank at a slight cost to weapon readiness. On defense, you can try for a rapid retreat but it carries the trade-off of stalling your shield recharge. Should you be able to escape from a situation where you are over-matched or have lost the upper hand? Yes, in a skillful manner (using mobility and spatial awareness to your advantage) and so long as your opponent has opportunity to counter using their own skills. The key for us has been to balance the potential escapability of sprint with mechanics like shield recharge and sprint ramp-up, while maintaining a sprint mechanic that feels good. This is something that we will continue to focus on post-beta as this careful balance is so important.
> Sprint is also an action that the vast majority of Halo players expect to be able to utilize in both an offensive and defensive context. I know that this community does not feel that way (or likely believes that statement to be accurate), but the larger Halo community is very diverse and we are building a game for an audience with many different perspectives represented amongst them. Within that larger audience, most people expect to be able to sprint. Particularly as this is the third Halo game to feature the mechanic.
> Another important consideration for us is to keep the core play experience as consistent as possible between Campaign, Arena, and the larger MP experiences that we are building. We feel that sprint, done right, works well in Arena. I know that’s a point of significant contention amongst this community. Sprint also works tremendously well in the context of those other experiences that I mentioned. When a player crosses over from Campaign to Arena, or from Arena to big team MP, we want the mechanics to translate across consistently. It’s jarring to become accustomed to a core mechanic only to have it disappear, or vice versa. That’s something that we want to avoid.
And here’s another one from the development of Halo 4.
> “It’s during that time you’re questioning yourself: 'How is this going to work, will it be as I envision it in my head?” says Holmes. For Halo 4, he says there were a few epiphany moments that helped boost the morale of the team. One of the earlier ones that Holmes recalls was when the team completed a small piece of the Halo experience that he described as a “very traditional” Halo. User research showed that people thought it was a lot of fun, and it showed that the team was capable of making a Halo game that was true to what the series was about.
>
> 343 scrapped it, Holmes says, as it was too traditional. But that first build showed the new team that this amalgamation of different studio cultures could work together and achieve a common goal.
Take away from them whatever you want.
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> ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
Because the gameplay of Halo was built around the mantra of having combat during movement, and not one instead of the other. A design philosophy that 343 seems to trample underfoot.
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> why dont we let 343 make halo instead of us saying there should be no sprint (not me though) or bring back cortana
Because they obviously have no clue how to, looking at the reception of their games in both sales and population.
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> > ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
>
>
> Because the gameplay of Halo was built around the mantra of having combat during movement, and not one instead of the other. A design philosophy that 343 seems to trample underfoot.
meaning? just cause the first one didnt have it doesnt mean none can have it
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> > > ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
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> > Because the gameplay of Halo was built around the mantra of having combat during movement, and not one instead of the other. A design philosophy that 343 seems to trample underfoot.
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> meaning? just cause the first one didnt have it doesnt mean none can have it
Meaning that the Halo gameplay was specifically designed without sprint. Bungie tried it in an early build for Halo 2 and threw it out once they realized it broke the gameplay mechanics. It’s quite literally not Halo gameplay if it has sprint.
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> > > > ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
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> > > Because the gameplay of Halo was built around the mantra of having combat during movement, and not one instead of the other. A design philosophy that 343 seems to trample underfoot.
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> > meaning? just cause the first one didnt have it doesnt mean none can have it
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> Meaning that the Halo gameplay was specifically designed without sprint. Bungie tried it in an early build for Halo 2 and threw it out once they realized it broke the gameplay mechanics. It’s quite literally not Halo gameplay if it has sprint.
it still is halo just cause bungie didnt have it doesnt mean its wrong for 343 to put it in the game
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> ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
I think this would be easier if you told us why sprint is needed first, like what does it add? If I were to go in depth on the negative effects of sprint on the game, I’d have a massive (no seriously, massive) post deserving of it’s own topic. Given how we’ve explained multiple times throughout this topic what the issues were, it’d be easier at this point if you told us why it’s needed and we’ll explain why that’s wrong - if it is indeed wrong. That way we can take it step by step.
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> > > > > ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
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> > > > Because the gameplay of Halo was built around the mantra of having combat during movement, and not one instead of the other. A design philosophy that 343 seems to trample underfoot.
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> > > meaning? just cause the first one didnt have it doesnt mean none can have it
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> > Meaning that the Halo gameplay was specifically designed without sprint. Bungie tried it in an early build for Halo 2 and threw it out once they realized it broke the gameplay mechanics. It’s quite literally not Halo gameplay if it has sprint.
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> it still is halo just cause bungie didnt have it doesnt mean its wrong for 343 to put it in the game
No it’s not and yes it is.
Regardless, I’m still waiting for your explanation why we need sprint in the game.
because it makes the gameplay more competitive and fast paced which halo should be
also allows more then one move meant speed plus much more
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> > > > > > ok tell me why removing sprint with make halo halo again? halo has and always will be halo
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> > > > > Because the gameplay of Halo was built around the mantra of having combat during movement, and not one instead of the other. A design philosophy that 343 seems to trample underfoot.
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> > > > meaning? just cause the first one didnt have it doesnt mean none can have it
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> > > Meaning that the Halo gameplay was specifically designed without sprint. Bungie tried it in an early build for Halo 2 and threw it out once they realized it broke the gameplay mechanics. It’s quite literally not Halo gameplay if it has sprint.
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> > it still is halo just cause bungie didnt have it doesnt mean its wrong for 343 to put it in the game
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> No it’s not and yes it is.
> Regardless, I’m still waiting for your explanation why we need sprint in the game.
how was it wrong please do tell?
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> because it makes the gameplay more competitive and fast paced which halo should be
> also allows more then one move meant speed plus much more
It makes the gameplay less fast-paced. Time between encounters in the newer games is twice as long (15-20 seconds) than in the older games (5-10 seconds). Matches end way more frequently in time-outs than before, even though the total match duration has been increased since Halo 4. If you want to speed up the game, just increase the base movement speed. No need for sprint.
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