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> > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > >
> > >
> > > That makes literally no sense.
> >
> >
> > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
>
>
> Why is sprint good for the game?
Sprint adds a second gear of movement that comes with benefits and trade-offs, effectively adding another layer of strategy to the game. When combined with the other mechanics in Halo 5, it makes for something that’s both engaging just genuinely fun to play. People’s complaints about how it negatively affects the game are ridiculous. It stretches out the maps? You mean just like how every other game bases their maps around their gameplay mechanics? I guess Titanfall shouldn’t have had awesome parkour routes for their wallrun mechanic. People also complain about its effects on the weapon sandbox. The sandbox in which, finally, every weapon is useful? You’re really gonna complain about that?
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So is sprint not good for the game? Give me a answer to the question. Educate me.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He’s saying that the guy never played any Halo game at all. look at his service record then spamming with questions.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I don’t care about people’s service records. I care about what they have to say regarding the discussion. Either support your argument or admit you have none.
> > > > >
> > > > > On that note, since you’ve been doing a whole lot of nothing, what’s your opinion of sprint? Does it have a positive effect on the game? If so, how?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Easy. Sprint makes thing get to places faster but at the same changes the gameplay
> > >
> > >
> > > Given how maps are built for the sprint speed, if anything, you’re traversing at normal speed when sprinting and consequently traversing at a slower when not sprinting. In other words, the actual intent of using sprint is not applied unless the maps are built for the slower speed (base speed), not the top speed (sprint speed).
> > >
> > > Of course sprint changes the gameplay. Does it do so in a positive or negative way and why?
> >
> >
> > It seems more like both really. It changes in a good way but again in a bad way. I can’t really explain it.
>
>
> So it’s good for the gameplay and bad for the gameplay, you just don’t know why? If you don’t know why, then how do you even know if it’s sprint causing these good and bad changes?
>
> Why are you in this thread if you have nothing meaningful to add to it one way or the other? You literally made the most uncommitted post in this whole topic.
I’m just answering your question, none thing else.
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> > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> > >
> > >
> > > So is sprint not good for the game? Give me a answer to the question. Educate me.
> >
> >
> > He’s saying that the guy never played any Halo game at all. look at his service record then spamming with questions.
>
>
> I don’t care about people’s service records.
Personal experience with the game helps out a lot with one’s argument. It sure helps out a lot more than asking over and over “How does it benefit the game?” With nothing else substantial to add.
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> > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > >
> > >
> > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> >
> >
> > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
>
>
> rolls eyes no ones over the “no service record your opinion means nothing” thing yet? My service record shows I haven’t played the original hCE or h2 and very little of h3 but I have indeed played them many times over. In fact I could mention a few things that the originals didnt have in them that the mcc added. It’s also possible people could’ve played at a friends house, played it on a different account, or even just watched playthroughs of it by other people to get the gist. Never judge people by their waypoint records, some prefer to not link their normal account and prefer to just make an alt account only for posting on here.
Why? What’s the need for secrecy? Makes your argument seem flimsy. Also I couldn’t give a crap of what other Halos you have played in the context of this game.
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> > > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > So is sprint not good for the game? Give me a answer to the question. Educate me.
> > >
> > >
> > > He’s saying that the guy never played any Halo game at all. look at his service record then spamming with questions.
> >
> >
> > I don’t care about people’s service records.
>
>
> Personal experience with the game helps out a lot with one’s argument. It sure helps out a lot more than asking over and over “How does it benefit the game?” With nothing else substantial to add.
Not having games on your service record does not mean you haven’t played the game. It also doesn’t change the demonstrable effects of certain mechanics on the gameplay of Halo. It’s incredible to me that people on this forum still don’t get that after so long. It is not relevant to the conversation and it’s pretty much poisoning the well.
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> > > > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So is sprint not good for the game? Give me a answer to the question. Educate me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > He’s saying that the guy never played any Halo game at all. look at his service record then spamming with questions.
> > >
> > >
> > > I don’t care about people’s service records.
> >
> >
> > Personal experience with the game helps out a lot with one’s argument. It sure helps out a lot more than asking over and over “How does it benefit the game?” With nothing else substantial to add.
>
>
> Not having games on your service record does not mean you haven’t played the game. It also doesn’t change the demonstrable effects of certain mechanics on the gameplay of Halo. It’s incredible to me that people on this forum still don’t get that after so long. It is not relevant to the conversation and it’s pretty much poisoning the well.
“Not playing this game has nothing to do with me saying things in this game are bad”
-You
Removing sprint from halo 5 wouldn’t work, because the maps were designed for sprinting. But for halo 6, they could have classic playlists without sprint, and halo 6 playlists with sprint. Then everyone would get what they want.
> Sprint adds a second gear of movement that comes with benefits and trade-offs, effectively adding another layer of strategy to the game.
The inability to push while being offensive also eliminates a handful of potential strategies as well.
There’s so much more to game strategy than just trade-offs and item/mechanic counter-play.
> Not playing this game has nothing to do with me saying things in this game are bad"
> -You
First, that’s not even remotely what he’s saying.
Second, bringing up someone’s service record is more often than not an ad hominem that has no relevance to the argument at hand and doesn’t actually refute anything.
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> > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > >
> > >
> > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> >
> >
> > rolls eyes no ones over the “no service record your opinion means nothing” thing yet? My service record shows I haven’t played the original hCE or h2 and very little of h3 but I have indeed played them many times over. In fact I could mention a few things that the originals didnt have in them that the mcc added. It’s also possible people could’ve played at a friends house, played it on a different account, or even just watched playthroughs of it by other people to get the gist. Never judge people by their waypoint records, some prefer to not link their normal account and prefer to just make an alt account only for posting on here.
>
>
> Why? What’s the need for secrecy? Makes your argument seem flimsy. Also I couldn’t give a crap of what other Halos you have played in the context of this game.
Maybe they don’t want to associate their in-game handle with the nonsense that goes on in this forum? Maybe they don’t want their stats to be arbitrarily brought into conversations where they don’t belong? There are plenty of valid reasons, but I have questions. Why do you care? What bearing do these irreverent stats have on whether someone’s argument is “flimsy?” Do you want to see everyone’s diplomas as well? Perhaps you would like to see their work history? Or, you could just have a conversation about the actual topic at hand.
And having played other Halos is absolutely relevant when we’re talking about a mechanics this game has and classic Halo games did not. It doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s a numbered entry in a series.
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> > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> >
> >
> > Why is sprint good for the game?
>
>
> Sprint adds a second gear of movement that comes with benefits and trade-offs, effectively adding another layer of strategy to the game. When combined with the other mechanics in Halo 5, it makes for something that’s both engaging just genuinely fun to play. People’s complaints about how it negatively affects the game are ridiculous. It stretches out the maps? You mean just like how every other game bases their maps around their gameplay mechanics? I guess Titanfall shouldn’t have had awesome parkour routes for their wallrun mechanic. People also complain about its effects on the weapon sandbox. The sandbox in which, finally, every weapon is useful? You’re really gonna complain about that?
Why is a second movement speed necessary? If anything, the limitations of sprint also limit strategy. And at times, not sprinting could be a disadvantage, particularly when traversing since the maps are built for that speed. There’s less choice to be made when sprint. That’s as opposed to if there’s no sprint where you’re never limited in what you can do and thus allows for more possibilities in the moment to moment gameplay.
Why is risk/reward automatically a good thing when applied to mechanics? If a rocket launcher had a 50% chance of blowing up in your face when firing two consecutive shots without reloading, that’s risk/reward, but it’s not necessarily a good thing.
I don’t know how much you’ve been following this topic, but we’ve covered the effect larger maps have on the game. Perhaps I should go over them again?
Also, just because every weapon is useful, that doesn’t mean they’re balanced. But that’s another topic entirely.
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> > Sprint adds a second gear of movement that comes with benefits and trade-offs, effectively adding another layer of strategy to the game.
>
>
> The inability to push while being offensive also eliminates a handful of strategies as well.
>
> There’s so much more to game strategy than just trade-offs and item/mechanic counter-play.
>
>
>
>
> > Not playing this game has nothing to do with me saying things in this game are bad"
> > -You
>
>
> First, that’s not even remotely what he’s saying.
>
> Second, bringing up someone’s service record is more often than not an ad hominem that has no relevance to the argument at hand and doesn’t actually refute anything.
Whenever they HAVEN’T PLAYED THE GAME yeah I’m going to make a judgment on that.
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> > > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
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> > > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
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> > > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
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> > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
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> > > > >
> > > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
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> > > >
> > > > So is sprint not good for the game? Give me a answer to the question. Educate me.
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> > >
> > > He’s saying that the guy never played any Halo game at all. look at his service record then spamming with questions.
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> > I don’t care about people’s service records.
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> Personal experience with the game helps out a lot with one’s argument. It sure helps out a lot more than asking over and over “How does it benefit the game?” With nothing else substantial to add.
It does, but I won’t ignore their opinion either way, nor will I make assumptions about their playtime. I’ll just explain why they may be wrong. Unlike that other guy who doesn’t even bother to explain his own reasoning. Probably because he has nothing to support what he believes regarding the topic.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
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> > > > > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So is sprint not good for the game? Give me a answer to the question. Educate me.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > He’s saying that the guy never played any Halo game at all. look at his service record then spamming with questions.
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> > > > I don’t care about people’s service records.
> > >
> > >
> > > Personal experience with the game helps out a lot with one’s argument. It sure helps out a lot more than asking over and over “How does it benefit the game?” With nothing else substantial to add.
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> > Not having games on your service record does not mean you haven’t played the game. It also doesn’t change the demonstrable effects of certain mechanics on the gameplay of Halo. It’s incredible to me that people on this forum still don’t get that after so long. It is not relevant to the conversation and it’s pretty much poisoning the well.
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> “Not playing this game has nothing to do with me saying things in this game are bad”
> -You
I really can stress enough how difficult it is to refrain from bannable behavior when I encounter idiotic -Yoink- like this on Waypoint. Ok. Allow me to explain this to you, sport. I have played about 2.5 as many games in Halo 5 as you have in this game on THIS TAG ALONE. I have ALSO played the game on three other XBL accounts. Had I chosen to, I could have made a forum account tied to NONE of them. That wouldn’t mean I haven’t played the game. Do you get it yet, genius?
And that’s disregarding the simple fact that our service records are completely irrelevant to this discussion.
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> > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> > >
> > >
> > > rolls eyes no ones over the “no service record your opinion means nothing” thing yet? My service record shows I haven’t played the original hCE or h2 and very little of h3 but I have indeed played them many times over. In fact I could mention a few things that the originals didnt have in them that the mcc added. It’s also possible people could’ve played at a friends house, played it on a different account, or even just watched playthroughs of it by other people to get the gist. Never judge people by their waypoint records, some prefer to not link their normal account and prefer to just make an alt account only for posting on here.
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> >
> > Why? What’s the need for secrecy? Makes your argument seem flimsy. Also I couldn’t give a crap of what other Halos you have played in the context of this game.
>
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> Maybe they don’t want to associate their in-game handle with the nonsense that goes on in this forum? Maybe they don’t want their stats to be arbitrarily brought into conversations where they don’t belong? There are plenty of valid reasons, but I have questions. Why do you care? What bearing do these irreverent stats have on whether someone’s argument is “flimsy?” Do you want to see everyone’s diplomas as well? Perhaps you would like to see their work history? Or, you could just have a conversation about the actual topic at hand.
>
> And having played other Halos is absolutely relevant when we’re talking about a mechanics this game has and classic Halo games did not. It doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s a numbered entry in a series.
Look the game is not going to change and unless they go full nostalgia I doubt 6 will remove the mechanic. Sprint feels different but I enjoy it which is something I didn’t think would happen after how Halo 4 was handled. Also people people act like it is the reason for Halo’s drop off. Most people that I talk to dislike the TTK and people not dying in a heartbeat.
> Whenever they HAVEN’T PLAYED THE GAME yeah I’m going to make a judgment on that.
You can judge however much you want. But judgements don’t qualify as counter-arguments to whatever point they happen to be making.
“Sprint sucks because it leads to upscaled maps.”
Actual Counter-Argument: “Why are upscaled maps a bad thing? You haven’t elaborated on that point whatsoever.”
Useless Ad-Hominem: “Yeah well you haven’t played the game. Checkmate Tryhards, Casuals 1 Competitive Players 0”
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> Removing sprint from halo 5 wouldn’t work, because the maps were designed for sprinting. But for halo 6, they could have classic playlists without sprint, and halo 6 playlists with sprint. Then everyone would get what they want.
Think that is pretty much the point. Least I would hope every one knows it is to late to remove it. Also they have brought up classic play-lists and such, for Halo 5, may settle for it if it was on launch on Halo 6. The problem with sprint, is it would also be in the campaign. So there would need to be a possible solution there.
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> > > > > > > > > > Halo 6 could be the game EVERYONE wants by removing sprint in campaign (yes because who the -Yoink- needs TWO movement speeds in campaign???) and
> > > > > > > > > > arena multiplayer at first I thought a no sprint playlist might be optimal but hear me out. I pretty sure the new spartan abilities (save -Yoinking!- spartan charge) would be GENERALLY accepted in a halo game if they werent accompanied by sprint it would feel more competitive more strategic and would also still be recognizable to the fine tuned experience we got in halo 5. Warzone and customs would be a whole other beast entirely retaining ALL the features that made halo 5 successful would keep warzone great and would also allow more options for custom games, for those people that actually wanted to play in a sprint arena type setting they could actually fire up the in game custom game lobby adjust the filter and be good to go! lets face it, sprint has NO place in competitve halo and to argue that it does would just be absurd. this would allow arena maps to continue to be designed the PROPER way and please the vets and basically everyone whos willing to give it a chance and you wouldnt lose much of your sprint loving audience at all because there would still be sprint in the game it would just take a backseat!
> > > > > > > > > > Thoughts? :3
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Why remove it? Everyone sprints, if you don’t want to, then don’t. It’s not the world’s problem, or 343’s, just yours. Adapt to survive.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > That makes literally no sense.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why are you complaining about something you’ve never experienced?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hasn’t played game, opinion discarded.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > rolls eyes no ones over the “no service record your opinion means nothing” thing yet? My service record shows I haven’t played the original hCE or h2 and very little of h3 but I have indeed played them many times over. In fact I could mention a few things that the originals didnt have in them that the mcc added. It’s also possible people could’ve played at a friends house, played it on a different account, or even just watched playthroughs of it by other people to get the gist. Never judge people by their waypoint records, some prefer to not link their normal account and prefer to just make an alt account only for posting on here.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why? What’s the need for secrecy? Makes your argument seem flimsy. Also I couldn’t give a crap of what other Halos you have played in the context of this game.
> >
> >
> > Maybe they don’t want to associate their in-game handle with the nonsense that goes on in this forum? Maybe they don’t want their stats to be arbitrarily brought into conversations where they don’t belong? There are plenty of valid reasons, but I have questions. Why do you care? What bearing do these irreverent stats have on whether someone’s argument is “flimsy?” Do you want to see everyone’s diplomas as well? Perhaps you would like to see their work history? Or, you could just have a conversation about the actual topic at hand.
> >
> > And having played other Halos is absolutely relevant when we’re talking about a mechanics this game has and classic Halo games did not. It doesn’t exist in a vacuum. It’s a numbered entry in a series.
>
>
> Look the game is not going to change and unless they go full nostalgia I doubt 6 will remove the mechanic. Sprint feels different but I enjoy it which is something I didn’t think would happen after how Halo 4 was handled. Also people people act like it is the reason for Halo’s drop off. Most people that I talk to dislike the TTK and people not dying in a heartbeat.
And now you’re shifting gears and switching to the nostalgia/adapt argument. Your TTK caim only makes sense if all of your friends are CoD players. How exactly would the longer TTK (which is a problem and is made worse by mechanics like sprint) cause the drop-off in a console shooter series generally known for longer kill times? What?
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> > Whenever they HAVEN’T PLAYED THE GAME yeah I’m going to make a judgment on that.
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> You can judge however much you want. But judgements don’t qualify as counter-arguments to whatever point they happen to be making.
>
> “Sprint sucks because it leads to upscaled maps.”
> Actual Counter-Argument: "Why are upscaled maps a bad thing? You haven’t elaborated on that point whatsoever."
> Useless Ad-Hominem: “Yeah well you haven’t played the game. Checkmate Tryhards, Casuals 1 Competitive Players 0”
Yep me liking Sprint makes me tryhard, good one at making an Ad Hominem you accused me of. So why is the map being larger bad?
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> > > Whenever they HAVEN’T PLAYED THE GAME yeah I’m going to make a judgment on that.
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> >
> > You can judge however much you want. But judgements don’t qualify as counter-arguments to whatever point they happen to be making.
> > “Sprint sucks because it leads to upscaled maps.”
> > Actual Counter-Argument: "Why are upscaled maps a bad thing? You haven’t elaborated on that point whatsoever."
> > Useless Ad-Hominem: “Yeah well you haven’t played the game. Checkmate Tryhards, Casuals 1 Competitive Players 0”
>
>
> Yep me liking Sprint makes me tryhard, good one at making an Ad Hominem you accused me of. So why is the map being larger bad?
Um, what? I never called you a tryhard, and the bolded was just an example of a counter-argument someone could’ve made instead of relying on an ad hominem.
I don’t think you read my post correctly.
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> >
> > You can judge however much you want. But judgements don’t qualify as counter-arguments to whatever point they happen to be making.
> >
> > “Sprint sucks because it leads to upscaled maps.”
> > Actual Counter-Argument: "Why are upscaled maps a bad thing? You haven’t elaborated on that point whatsoever."
> > Useless Ad-Hominem: “Yeah well you haven’t played the game. Checkmate Tryhards, Casuals 1 Competitive Players 0”
>
>
> Yep me liking Sprint makes me tryhard, good one at making an Ad Hominem you accused me of. So why is the map being larger bad?
You might want to look into what an ad hominem actually is. Hint: it’s not just being mean.