The sprint discussion thread

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> > Why is that?
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> Yeah why? When someone makes a statement like this, I have yet to see an explanation as to why.

It’s just modern gaming.
The majority of the gaming market wants sprint.
More players = more money = more support.

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> > > > > > > > > Agreed, I’m surprised that the monitors haven’t locked this thread with all the non constructed posts
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> > > > > > > > > I’d definitely play the classic and modern playlists. They could use all the map remakes in Halo 5 to make it if they wanted to, some are really scaled perfectly from the old ones.
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> > > > > > > > Exactly. Halo Gods and Monitors to help you and maybe the community. Please lock the thread and we can just talk about making a classic playlist and maps.
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> > > > > > > The mods aren’t gonna lock the thread because there’s still a discussion going on. The whining and non constructive posts of the opposing side isn’t gonna get a topic locked. You can all just as easily not read/post in this topic if you don’t like it.
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> > > > > > > Not to mention how this is acting as the universal sprint thread and if it’s locked another one will pop up to take it’s place. This topic is the only thing keeping more from being made.
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> > > > > > Then again. This would keep other sprint threads coming. But still a classic playlist all we need.
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> > > > > Until h6. Where sprint needs to completely go.
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> > > > or just make a classic playlist like I just said.
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> > > Not good enough.
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> > You haven’t played Halo. I looked at your service record and you never played any Halo game.
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> Exactly, why is this guy even here?? Someone needs to change his diaper

Would you like to explain why this single mechanic is good and why we can’t ditch it for an increased BMS? This is what we’ve done in mlg for years… Before 4 came out and made sprint a set mechanic.

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> > > > > > > > im basically captain America in a super suit, why would i not be able to sprint?
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> > > > > > > If they could’ve had sprint in Halo CE, it would’ve been in the game and nobody would be complaining about it now. In fact, if Bungie got their way and had the technology, Halo would’ve been Destiny from the start…
> > > > > > > I find it hilarious how these people complain so much about such a little thing, especially since you cant even recharge a shield while sprinting. If it wasnt sprint, they’d complain about something else.
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> > > > > > What are you on about? A sprint mechanic could’ve been implemented in CE (look at the SPV3 mod in CE’s engine) AND Bungie tried implementing it into H2 early into development, but scrapped it because of pacing issues. It’s never been a matter of “can we add this?” but of “should we add this?” The bit about Halo being Destiny if Bungie “had their way” is utter hogwash too.
> > > > > > You say Sprint is such a small and insignificant thing, yet it’s been pointed out how it affects so many facets of the game. If you really believe that Sprint is so minor, then why do you even if it’s there or not? Your argument invalidates itself.
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> > > > > I dont care if it is there or not. But it isnt going anywhere and doesnt hurt the gameplay whatsoever in Halo 5… And yes, Bungie said it themselves, Destiny was what they wanted to make… It was Microsoft that made Halo, Halo… Calling facts Hogwash is Hogwash.
> > > > > Making fun of crybabies living in the past and ‘defending’ something are 2 completely different things.
> > > > > Anybody can type up a long winded 10,000 word post that always winds up basically saying the same thing… That they are mad that they couldnt get that last shot off because their opponent sprinted away… Boohoo, cry me a river… Git gud or go home
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> > > > That’s not it at all lol.
> > > > Personal I’m better at reach/4/5 than I was hce/2/3. Doesn’t mean I think they’re better games.
> > > > Also not sure why you keep telling people to “git gud” when you struggle in gold and platinum.
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> > > How am ‘struggling’ as you say??
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> > By suck at the game.
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> Please keep it constructive. Best to not get into a flame war that results in this thread being locked. If need be, just report his posts when appropriate and don’t engage.

or just lock this pointless thread because this topic is stupid and long been played out.

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> > > > > > > > > > Agreed, I’m surprised that the monitors haven’t locked this thread with all the non constructed posts
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> > > > > > > > > > I’d definitely play the classic and modern playlists. They could use all the map remakes in Halo 5 to make it if they wanted to, some are really scaled perfectly from the old ones.
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> > > > > > > > > Exactly. Halo Gods and Monitors to help you and maybe the community. Please lock the thread and we can just talk about making a classic playlist and maps.
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> > > > > > > > The mods aren’t gonna lock the thread because there’s still a discussion going on. The whining and non constructive posts of the opposing side isn’t gonna get a topic locked. You can all just as easily not read/post in this topic if you don’t like it.
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> > > > > > > > Not to mention how this is acting as the universal sprint thread and if it’s locked another one will pop up to take it’s place. This topic is the only thing keeping more from being made.
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> > > > > > > Then again. This would keep other sprint threads coming. But still a classic playlist all we need.
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> > > > > > Until h6. Where sprint needs to completely go.
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> > > > > or just make a classic playlist like I just said.
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> > > > Not good enough.
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> > > You haven’t played Halo. I looked at your service record and you never played any Halo game.
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> > Exactly, why is this guy even here?? Someone needs to change his diaper
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> Would you like to explain why this single mechanic is good and why we can’t ditch it for an increased BMS? This is what we’ve done in mlg for years… Before 4 came out and made sprint a set mechanic.

Sprint and thrusters were in Reach and Halos population was already dying before that… You just cant accept the fact that the average person would rather play something casual and other games came out around those times to cater to them. Nobody cares about MLG, its just a term try hards use.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, I’m surprised that the monitors haven’t locked this thread with all the non constructed posts
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> > > > > > > > > > > I’d definitely play the classic and modern playlists. They could use all the map remakes in Halo 5 to make it if they wanted to, some are really scaled perfectly from the old ones.
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> > > > > > > > > > Exactly. Halo Gods and Monitors to help you and maybe the community. Please lock the thread and we can just talk about making a classic playlist and maps.
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> > > > > > > > > The mods aren’t gonna lock the thread because there’s still a discussion going on. The whining and non constructive posts of the opposing side isn’t gonna get a topic locked. You can all just as easily not read/post in this topic if you don’t like it.
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> > > > > > > > > Not to mention how this is acting as the universal sprint thread and if it’s locked another one will pop up to take it’s place. This topic is the only thing keeping more from being made.
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> > > > > > > > Then again. This would keep other sprint threads coming. But still a classic playlist all we need.
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> > > > > > > Until h6. Where sprint needs to completely go.
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> > > > > > or just make a classic playlist like I just said.
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> > > > > Not good enough.
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> > > > You haven’t played Halo. I looked at your service record and you never played any Halo game.
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> > > Exactly, why is this guy even here?? Someone needs to change his diaper
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> > Would you like to explain why this single mechanic is good and why we can’t ditch it for an increased BMS? This is what we’ve done in mlg for years… Before 4 came out and made sprint a set mechanic.
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> Sprint and thrusters were in Reach and Halos population was already dying before that… You just cant accept the fact that the average person would rather play something casual and other games came out around those times to cater to them. Nobody cares about MLG, its just a term try hards use.

I was under the assumption pros liked sprint and therefore it is good and needed. According to you. So now it’s casuals that were catering to…interesting. Halo sustained a healthy population throughout 2/3 and for a decent amount of reaches life.

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> > > > sprint needs to stay.
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> > Yeah why? When someone makes a statement like this, I have yet to see an explanation as to why.
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> It’s just modern gaming.
> The majority of the gaming market wants sprint.
> More players = more money = more support.

I don’t hear the majority complaining for the lack of sprint in Overwatch, with the exception of one character. Also talking about majority, CS:GO is the most popular FPS on the market and it doesn’t have sprint.

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> > Yeah why? When someone makes a statement like this, I have yet to see an explanation as to why.
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> It’s just modern gaming.
> The majority of the gaming market wants sprint.
> More players = more money = more support.

That’s not an acceptable answer though. Why is it good for the game? That thought process is the reason any mechanic is included in games.

Overwatch has taken the gaming world by storm and the people playing that don’t seem too upset about not sprinting. Plus, Halos sales have only decrease dwith the inclusion of sprint and the population has only gotten smaller, so your theory certainly isn’t applying to Halo.

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> This has been suggested hundreds of times. People just don’t want to think about that for some reason.

Because then Halo would just be Quake but with a much, much less interesting roster of weapons. Do you get ticked off when you almost kill somebody in a match but they turn the corner or get behind a piece of cover just in time? Expect that a lot more if the base movement speed is increased. Oh, and good luck splattering people or getting your Scorpion or Wraith to survive for more than a minute.

The best thing for 343 to do for Halo 6 is to take all the current existing gameplay features, tweak them a bit, then focus on maps and game types rather than go with a complete page 1 rewrite of the way the game plays and then spend what little time they have left on maps and everything else.

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> > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, I’m surprised that the monitors haven’t locked this thread with all the non constructed posts
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I’d definitely play the classic and modern playlists. They could use all the map remakes in Halo 5 to make it if they wanted to, some are really scaled perfectly from the old ones.
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> > > > > > > > > > Exactly. Halo Gods and Monitors to help you and maybe the community. Please lock the thread and we can just talk about making a classic playlist and maps.
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> > > > > > > > > The mods aren’t gonna lock the thread because there’s still a discussion going on. The whining and non constructive posts of the opposing side isn’t gonna get a topic locked. You can all just as easily not read/post in this topic if you don’t like it.
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> > > > > > > > > Not to mention how this is acting as the universal sprint thread and if it’s locked another one will pop up to take it’s place. This topic is the only thing keeping more from being made.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Then again. This would keep other sprint threads coming. But still a classic playlist all we need.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Until h6. Where sprint needs to completely go.
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> > > > > > or just make a classic playlist like I just said.
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> > > > > Not good enough.
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> > > > You haven’t played Halo. I looked at your service record and you never played any Halo game.
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> > >
> > > Exactly, why is this guy even here?? Someone needs to change his diaper
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> > Would you like to explain why this single mechanic is good and why we can’t ditch it for an increased BMS? This is what we’ve done in mlg for years… Before 4 came out and made sprint a set mechanic.
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> Sprint and thrusters were in Reach and Halos population was already dying before that… You just cant accept the fact that the average person would rather play something casual and other games came out around those times to cater to them. Nobody cares about MLG, its just a term try hards use.

Halos decline in sales and population both started when sprin was adding to the franchise. The correlation is there.

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More construtive please and less off topic

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> > > Yeah why? When someone makes a statement like this, I have yet to see an explanation as to why.
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> > It’s just modern gaming.
> > The majority of the gaming market wants sprint.
> > More players = more money = more support.
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> I don’t hear the majority complaining for the lack of sprint in Overwatch, with the exception of one character. Also talking about majority, CS:GO is the most popular FPS on the market and it doesn’t have sprint.

Technically it does. You pull out your knife which makes you move faster.

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Sorry, what was that?

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> > This has been suggested hundreds of times. People just don’t want to think about that for some reason.
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> Because then Halo would just be Quake but with a much, much less interesting roster of weapons. Do you get ticked off when you almost kill somebody in a match but they turn the corner or get behind a piece of cover just in time? Expect that a lot more if the base movement speed is increased. Oh, and good luck splattering people or getting your Scorpion or Wraith to survive for more than a minute.
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> The best thing for 343 to do for Halo 6 is to take all the current existing gameplay features, tweak them a bit, then focus on maps and game types rather than go with a complete page 1 rewrite of the way the game plays and then spend what little time they have left on maps and everything else.

But if the base movement speed were increased and there was no sprint, if someone ran around a corner you’d be able to persue them at the same speed, never giving up your ability to be offensive. Have you not played the original games? That wasn’t a problem. If someone runs around a corner now, you need to give up your ability to be offensive to persue them efficiently. If anything the encounter would remain intense without sprint because when your enemy rounds a corner to try and escape, he’s still remaining offensive since he knows you can be also without losing ground to him. A lack of sprint always forces you to be offensive and defensive (in other words, they’re one in the same) which keeps things engaging and fast paced regardless of what happens, whereas sprint will often allow only for only offensive or defensive play.

As for your other problems: make the vehicles slightly faster and make new unique weapons to use (they should be doing that anyway). Not sure why people are acting like these are problems that can’t be fixed.

It’s still Halo WITH and WITHOUT sprint… one mechanic doesn’t define a game. I prefer my Halo with it now but could careless if they removed it. But I see no reason to remove it. They would really have to increase the base movement speed so what’s the difference if they increase the base movement speed and being able to sprint… you are still going faster… is the fact that you can’t shoot while sprinting the reason some hate it? All I know is when I got back and play MCC from time to time it feels as if you are crawling in H3 btb… feels like it takes forever to get around maps like sandtrap and avalanche… Sprint is fine in Halo.

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> > > > > Why is that?
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> > > > Yeah why? When someone makes a statement like this, I have yet to see an explanation as to why.
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> > > It’s just modern gaming.
> > > The majority of the gaming market wants sprint.
> > > More players = more money = more support.
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> > I don’t hear the majority complaining for the lack of sprint in Overwatch, with the exception of one character. Also talking about majority, CS:GO is the most popular FPS on the market and it doesn’t have sprint.
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> Technically it does. You pull out your knife which makes you move faster.

That’s not sprint, your movement speed is just increased when holding that weapon. That’s like saying you’re sprinting when holding the sword in halo 5. Sprinting is a whole different mechanic.

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> Sorry, what was that?

Constructive post please. Less links that are worthless and more on sprint which is problem with some Spartans.

The future is now:v

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> > > > Why is that?
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> > > Yeah why? When someone makes a statement like this, I have yet to see an explanation as to why.
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> > It’s just modern gaming.
> > The majority of the gaming market wants sprint.
> > More players = more money = more support.
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> That’s not an acceptable answer though. Why is it good for the game? That thought process is the reason any mechanic is included in games.
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> Overwatch has taken the gaming world by storm and the people playing that don’t seem too upset about not sprinting. Plus, Halos sales have only decrease dwith the inclusion of sprint and the population has only gotten smaller, so your theory certainly isn’t applying to Halo.

Overwatch is a game from a legendary studio that’s on three different platforms and was marketed to hell and back. Halo 5 is an exclusive title on a console that now plays host to Overwatch and countless other titles across many, many genres. The inclusion of sprint did not cause Halo’s sales to decline, it was an expanding market for FPS games and games general coinciding with other factors, like Steam finally getting out of its super broken buggy phase and people growing up and devoting their time to raising families, their careers, college, etc.

Also regarding Overwatch, there’s a hypothetical scenario that I’ve been thinking about and would absolutely dread: Halo 6 removing WarZone and putting in some kind of Overwatch clone mode in its place. The removal of Sprint would give them a perfect reason to do so. I can already imagine them sitting in a meeting talking about it: “Well, we removed Sprint and all these other features, we have to have something to attract new people. What’s popular right now?”

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