What is wrong with half of this community?
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> > > > > Sprint Is Optional. Use it or don’t. For a lot of people it depends on if they played the old games or not.
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> > > > yeah shooting your gun is optional too…see how well you do without doing that…its not about whether you are able to do something…its the fact that everyone else is able to do it…all not sprinting would do when everyone else can is put you at a disadvantage…same with all of the abilities
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> > sprint only puts you at a disadvantage if your damaged…and yeah if your going around a corner obviously you shouldnt sprint around it…but the fact that you say not using the abilities not only doesnt put you at a disadvantage…but is actually beneficial…no offense but that makes me think you dont actually play the game
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> Lol think it all you want, I see no possible way how ground pound or shoulder charge is beneficial. The only ability that can give you an advantage is clambor, and even then you can get shot at while using it while not having the ability to fire back. Please, indulge me as to how they’re beneficial? Wanna ground pound? I’m very good at dodging that and shooting you while you’re in the air, shoulder charge? More often than not I can also dodge that and if I don’t I melee the guy and even the ground to where a headshot from either of us does it. Clambor is a 50/50 thing to me, if you’re one of those guys who goes for power spots then it can help but you’re also easy prey when I see someone clambor up for the fuel rod on truth. That’s why I don’t see them beneficial. I’m also a positive player who maybe has 150 total ability kills since the games been out and I’m SR 112. You may see them as handicaps if one doesn’t use them, but I don’t. The only one I fully support as beneficial is thrusters.
thruster is a get out jail free card in almost any scenario…in a sickening troll ability that has no place in this game
sprinting sprinting can get you around the small maps so fast especially in conjunction with thrust and slide…it makes the escapism mentality in halo 5 that much easier
spartan charge can only be done at full sprint speed which you achieve quite quickly so even if you getting shot its not going to slow you down…you will lunge a ridiculous distance and do more damage than a traditional melee…and it has a ridulous hit box…your delusional if you think spartan charge misses more then it connects
clamber is such a brief animation that if your at a big disadvantage because of it then its 100 percent your fault…clamber helps you maneuver the maps to get to higher ground, flank, make jumps you shouldnt be able to make esecially in conjunction with thrust
slide is fine by itself but does serve to make thruster pack more cheap
stabalize also signifigantly helps with jumps and lets you shoot people you shouldnt be able to shoot
ground pound while yes does put you at a disadvantage overall…it can serve as a cheap way to kill someone or because of the splash damage take their shields down
Sprint should stay in the game most people. Nowadays like the fast pace.
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> > > > > > I still feel halo 5 is strategic, just fast pace too. I like sprint any game without it (for me) is too slow and boring. You can bet if they make H6 with no sprint I won’t buy it. This is because once you play campaign what’s left? Matchmaking, where the majority of your time is spent
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> > > > > Sprint creates the illusion of speed. It doesn’t make games faster. It makes them SLOWER. Doom plays and feels faster than H5, but does not have sprint. I am getting a bit tired of refuting this misconception.
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> > > > only bc they boosted the base movement speed
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> > > Not only that but increased the FOV as well, yet they have rather large maps (larger than Halo 5), making the “sprint makes maps large” argument invalid when Overwatch also has quite expansive maps.
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> > I can’t believe how uninformed people that like sprint are. Even people like you that have been in this thread for ages and seemingly haven’t learned a thing.
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> I haven’t learned anything? What I have learned is that most of the anti-sprinters in this thread seem to expect that every single factor in every game being played seem to be exactly the same. Most of these technicalities you talk about, I don’t notice them because I’m quickly adapting to whatever game it is I’m playing. Whether I’m playing Halo 1-3 Reach ODST or 5 (not even going to count 4 because anyone could have adapted to it), I just jump into it and do a little practice with my cousin or a friend to get used to it, (really just a 1v1 match). I don’t notice anything “small” such as ttk and map size (to an extent) because I just jump into it and enjoy what’s available. I do exactly the same throughout all of the Halo games so I don’t notice these things.
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> Of course people who have hard times transitioning or don’t like new game mechanics will blame the game or a game mechanic for their struggles. Sprinting doesn’t really affect gameplay other than making it faster to engage in combat.
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> Of course, I know that some of these are a big deal for people,but since it doesn’t bother me, I don’t really care about it since only a small minority are affected.
You realise that a lot of the people who take issue with some of the stuff in H5 are significantly better at h5 than you are right?
Also, the people who like h5 are the vocal minority.
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> Sprint should stay in the game most people. Nowadays like the fast pace.
But sprint makes the game old, slow and clunky. Newer games are dropping sprint in favor of fast base speed that allows the player to move quickly in all directions while shooting.
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> I guess someone revived this topic so yeah
> Halo 2 had sprint, but it has been removed before release
It was removed because bungie realised it didn’t work with the other mechanics of halo. It created (direct quote here) “pacing issues”.
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> It was removed because bungie realised it didn’t work with the other mechanics of halo. It created (direct quote here) “pacing issues”.
True
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> > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
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> > Except the maps are purposefully stretched out to accompany sprint, so that stretched maps will have the same sprint travel time as a non stretched map with just walking. So
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> Campaign maps aren’t. God I wish I could have had sprint on some old campaign misions(Looking at you Two Betrayals)
Tsavo Highway, enought said
I actually always wondered why we couldn’t sprint to begin with. I didn’t enjoy jogging from the flood.
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> > > > didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.
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> > > Except the maps are purposefully stretched out to accompany sprint, so that stretched maps will have the same sprint travel time as a non stretched map with just walking. So
> > > not sprinting is punishing because the game had to be made around it.
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> > Campaign maps aren’t. God I wish I could have had sprint on some old campaign misions(Looking at you Two Betrayals)
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Haha exactly! And they actually aren’t spread out like that, or could play arena if you don’t but also think that there are canons everywhere, but if you’re so fed up with sprint play arena where you don’t have to Ben though you don’t have to anywhere
True my LS is destroyed
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> I still don’t get the hate for sprint. It is so trivial. “sprint allows players to run away” My answer to that is so what? Of all things that can be wrong with a game. Sprint should be the least of your concerns. how about disconnect from the server? that’s a real issue. EVERY SINGLE TIMEI start up Halo 5 I get “REQs not available” message. It does not matter what internet I’m on. IT Does it EVERY SINGLE TIME. I have to go and “Test Multiplayer Connection” in the xbox settings. Once I do It then immediately works. That’s a real problem. Horrible team balancing in match making. That’s a REAL problem. Organized parties playing randoms. THATS a real problem. Sprint? that’s not a problem.
I agree with you
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> > > > > > Sprint Is Optional. Use it or don’t. For a lot of people it depends on if they played the old games or not.
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> > > > > yeah shooting your gun is optional too…see how well you do without doing that…its not about whether you are able to do something…its the fact that everyone else is able to do it…all not sprinting would do when everyone else can is put you at a disadvantage…same with all of the abilities
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> > > sprint only puts you at a disadvantage if your damaged…and yeah if your going around a corner obviously you shouldnt sprint around it…but the fact that you say not using the abilities not only doesnt put you at a disadvantage…but is actually beneficial…no offense but that makes me think you dont actually play the game
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> > Lol think it all you want, I see no possible way how ground pound or shoulder charge is beneficial. The only ability that can give you an advantage is clambor, and even then you can get shot at while using it while not having the ability to fire back. Please, indulge me as to how they’re beneficial? Wanna ground pound? I’m very good at dodging that and shooting you while you’re in the air, shoulder charge? More often than not I can also dodge that and if I don’t I melee the guy and even the ground to where a headshot from either of us does it. Clambor is a 50/50 thing to me, if you’re one of those guys who goes for power spots then it can help but you’re also easy prey when I see someone clambor up for the fuel rod on truth. That’s why I don’t see them beneficial. I’m also a positive player who maybe has 150 total ability kills since the games been out and I’m SR 112. You may see them as handicaps if one doesn’t use them, but I don’t. The only one I fully support as beneficial is thrusters.
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> thruster is a get out jail free card in almost any scenario…in a sickening troll ability that has no place in this game
> sprinting sprinting can get you around the small maps so fast especially in conjunction with thrust and slide…it makes the escapism mentality in halo 5 that much easier
> spartan charge can only be done at full sprint speed which you achieve quite quickly so even if you getting shot its not going to slow you down…you will lunge a ridiculous distance and do more damage than a traditional melee…and it has a ridulous hit box…your delusional if you think spartan charge misses more then it connects
> clamber is such a brief animation that if your at a big disadvantage because of it then its 100 percent your fault…clamber helps you maneuver the maps to get to higher ground, flank, make jumps you shouldnt be able to make esecially in conjunction with thrust
> slide is fine by itself but does serve to make thruster pack more cheap
> stabalize also signifigantly helps with jumps and lets you shoot people you shouldnt be able to shoot
> ground pound while yes does put you at a disadvantage overall…it can serve as a cheap way to kill someone or because of the splash damage take their shields down
You salty bro? If you don’t like the mechanics then what are you doing still playing Halo? Thrusters are great for pulling off ninja’s and it’s pretty easy to predict when someone is going to thruster.
As soon as someone says “bro” you just know the post is going to be garbage tier.
Never fails.
I like sprint, though there are times when not using sprint can be better for gaining an advantage. I personally think spartan charge is more of an annoyance than sprint itself, especially in grifball. So many people just spartan charge in grifball and it can be annoying, however there are ways to cancel/reduce its effects.
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> > > > > > > I still feel halo 5 is strategic, just fast pace too. I like sprint any game without it (for me) is too slow and boring. You can bet if they make H6 with no sprint I won’t buy it. This is because once you play campaign what’s left? Matchmaking, where the majority of your time is spent
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> > > > > > Sprint creates the illusion of speed. It doesn’t make games faster. It makes them SLOWER. Doom plays and feels faster than H5, but does not have sprint. I am getting a bit tired of refuting this misconception.
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> > > > Not only that but increased the FOV as well, yet they have rather large maps (larger than Halo 5), making the “sprint makes maps large” argument invalid when Overwatch also has quite expansive maps.
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> > > It’s not about the overall size of the map. It’s about the scaling.
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> > > I can’t believe how uninformed people that like sprint are. Even people like you that have been in this thread for ages and seemingly haven’t learned a thing.
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> > I haven’t learned anything? What I have learned is that most of the anti-sprinters in this thread seem to expect that every single factor in every game being played seem to be exactly the same. Most of these technicalities you talk about, I don’t notice them because I’m quickly adapting to whatever game it is I’m playing. Whether I’m playing Halo 1-3 Reach ODST or 5 (not even going to count 4 because anyone could have adapted to it), I just jump into it and do a little practice with my cousin or a friend to get used to it, (really just a 1v1 match). I don’t notice anything “small” such as ttk and map size (to an extent) because I just jump into it and enjoy what’s available. I do exactly the same throughout all of the Halo games so I don’t notice these things.
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> > Of course people who have hard times transitioning or don’t like new game mechanics will blame the game or a game mechanic for their struggles. Sprinting doesn’t really affect gameplay other than making it faster to engage in combat.
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> You realise that a lot of the people who take issue with some of the stuff in H5 are significantly better at h5 than you are right?
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The pro’s are significantly better than you and I don’t see them complaining all the time so now what?
GAMES NEED TO FOLLOW THE TIMES THIS POST IS BS
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> > > > > > > > I still feel halo 5 is strategic, just fast pace too. I like sprint any game without it (for me) is too slow and boring. You can bet if they make H6 with no sprint I won’t buy it. This is because once you play campaign what’s left? Matchmaking, where the majority of your time is spent
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> > > > > > > Sprint creates the illusion of speed. It doesn’t make games faster. It makes them SLOWER. Doom plays and feels faster than H5, but does not have sprint. I am getting a bit tired of refuting this misconception.
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> > > > > Not only that but increased the FOV as well, yet they have rather large maps (larger than Halo 5), making the “sprint makes maps large” argument invalid when Overwatch also has quite expansive maps.
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> > > > It’s not about the overall size of the map. It’s about the scaling.
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> > > > I can’t believe how uninformed people that like sprint are. Even people like you that have been in this thread for ages and seemingly haven’t learned a thing.
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> > > I haven’t learned anything? What I have learned is that most of the anti-sprinters in this thread seem to expect that every single factor in every game being played seem to be exactly the same. Most of these technicalities you talk about, I don’t notice them because I’m quickly adapting to whatever game it is I’m playing. Whether I’m playing Halo 1-3 Reach ODST or 5 (not even going to count 4 because anyone could have adapted to it), I just jump into it and do a little practice with my cousin or a friend to get used to it, (really just a 1v1 match). I don’t notice anything “small” such as ttk and map size (to an extent) because I just jump into it and enjoy what’s available. I do exactly the same throughout all of the Halo games so I don’t notice these things.
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> > > Of course people who have hard times transitioning or don’t like new game mechanics will blame the game or a game mechanic for their struggles. Sprinting doesn’t really affect gameplay other than making it faster to engage in combat.
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> > > Of course, I know that some of these are a big deal for people,but since it doesn’t bother me, I don’t really care about it since only a small minority are affected.
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> The pro’s are significantly better than you and I don’t see them complaining all the time so now what?
Pro opinions need to be taken with a metric ton of salt.
Pros make money off the game as it is. Why would they want to change it and possibly shake up the power structure.
Pros have came out in the past and said that they have been falsely positive about Halo games because they fear negativity will lower the popularity of the game and again, lower the amount of money they can make.
To a pro this is a job, not a game. They approach it differently. I would look more at what top level AM players are saying.
Either way though. My main point was that player skill is not the reason people have issues with the game or do not have issues with the game. People don’t have issues with things like sprint because “they’re struggling”.
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> > > > > > > I still feel halo 5 is strategic, just fast pace too. I like sprint any game without it (for me) is too slow and boring. You can bet if they make H6 with no sprint I won’t buy it. This is because once you play campaign what’s left? Matchmaking, where the majority of your time is spent
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> > > > > > Sprint creates the illusion of speed. It doesn’t make games faster. It makes them SLOWER. Doom plays and feels faster than H5, but does not have sprint. I am getting a bit tired of refuting this misconception.
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> > > > Not only that but increased the FOV as well, yet they have rather large maps (larger than Halo 5), making the “sprint makes maps large” argument invalid when Overwatch also has quite expansive maps.
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> > > It’s not about the overall size of the map. It’s about the scaling.
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> > > I can’t believe how uninformed people that like sprint are. Even people like you that have been in this thread for ages and seemingly haven’t learned a thing.
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> > I haven’t learned anything? What I have learned is that most of the anti-sprinters in this thread seem to expect that every single factor in every game being played seem to be exactly the same. Most of these technicalities you talk about, I don’t notice them because I’m quickly adapting to whatever game it is I’m playing. Whether I’m playing Halo 1-3 Reach ODST or 5 (not even going to count 4 because anyone could have adapted to it), I just jump into it and do a little practice with my cousin or a friend to get used to it, (really just a 1v1 match). I don’t notice anything “small” such as ttk and map size (to an extent) because I just jump into it and enjoy what’s available. I do exactly the same throughout all of the Halo games so I don’t notice these things.
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> > Of course people who have hard times transitioning or don’t like new game mechanics will blame the game or a game mechanic for their struggles. Sprinting doesn’t really affect gameplay other than making it faster to engage in combat.
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> You realise that a lot of the people who take issue with some of the stuff in H5 are significantly better at h5 than you are right?
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> Also, the people who like h5 are the vocal minority.
Did I say I was MLG? Did I say I was a pro? Oh wait, I didn’t. And don’t trust my stats on here. My little brother plays on my account too.
And like I said, the minority is people who hate Halo 5. There are people who don’t like Halo 5 and people who like it that are in the majority, but the hardcore haters are in the minority. Most true haters don’t play the games anymore and are no longer in the community, so they don’t even count.
And people who like Halo 5 are the least vocal, like when was the last time you ever saw Halo 5 supporters flood the forums with 200 different posts on why The Addition of Sprint Has Made Halo, Halo again or how Sprint is the greatest thing in the world. Why haven’t you other seen these kinds of post, (because clearly there are people who think this)? You haven’t, had you? And why is this? Because there is no point, they’re too busy playing the game. They’re too busy getting farmed by Achilles A-holes or wrecked/wrecking in “hard” WZFF, and guess what, these are the posts they are making, they still like Halo but these are what they rather discuss about, simple things that could be tweaked a bit or are cancerous to the game, not how a game mechanic you’re not forced to use is ruining the franchise.
It’s simple, if you didn’t want to use a sword or the gravity hammer in grifball (you wanted to use one or the other), you don’t have to, but other player will use the one you’re not using and kill you and you can’t complain about it, you have the choice to use. It’s the exact same because using the energy sword or the gravity hammer both have their advantages and disadvantages, which ever you decide to use it is totally up to you.