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> > > > > > > > > > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
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> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
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> > > > > > > > > > Likewise- Furthermore, I don’t see how this thread is still going. Sprint has been in Halo for over half a decade and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
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> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sprint is a dated mechanic that most modern games are no longer using.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Halo needs to evolve with the times or risk being left behind.
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Id rather keep sprint.
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> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Me too. But the sprint debate itself is a dated issue and most players won’t be wasting time bumping threads to attempt to revive the issue.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wish that where true I guess some can’t stand having to hit one button to go a bit faster in a game so they rage.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I’ve waited so long for this. To unlock the rage of the anti-sprint group with one word.
> > > >
> > > > IMMERSION.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hard to feel immersed when we cant shoot and run at the same time. Silly
> >
> >
> > you mean “hard to feel immersed when we cant sprint and run at the same time. silly”
> >
> > Try it dude. It does not work. And most guys on the paintball field think you’re an idiot. Cant sprint without your arm balance.
>
>
> Yes, it would be impossible to sprint and run at the same time. The two are mutually exclusive. You also can’t sprint and crawl at the same time. lol.
>
> Anyway. Are most guys on the paintball field biologically enhanced super soldiers in powered assault armor? No? If we’re going with “immersion” and “realism” as if either of those are relevant to the negative impacts it has on Halo, the sprint mechanic still doesn’t hold up. There is no reason Spartans wouldn’t be able to move at optimal speed while keeping their weapon ready, as they did in the books. They aren’t random chumps playing paintball. They are the pinnacle of human augmentation in the 26th century.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Likewise- Furthermore, I don’t see how this thread is still going. Sprint has been in Halo for over half a decade and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sprint is a dated mechanic that most modern games are no longer using.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Halo needs to evolve with the times or risk being left behind.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Id rather keep sprint.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Me too. But the sprint debate itself is a dated issue and most players won’t be wasting time bumping threads to attempt to revive the issue.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I wish that where true I guess some can’t stand having to hit one button to go a bit faster in a game so they rage.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I’ve waited so long for this. To unlock the rage of the anti-sprint group with one word.
> > > >
> > > > IMMERSION.
> > >
> > >
> > > Hard to feel immersed when we cant shoot and run at the same time. Silly
> >
> >
> > you mean “hard to feel immersed when we cant sprint and run at the same time. silly”
> >
> > Try it dude. It does not work. And most guys on the paintball field think you’re an idiot. Cant sprint without your arm balance.
>
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> Most guys on the paintball field aren’t Spartan super soldiers. If you want lore to dictate gameplay be consistent. Why would an economist care what a paint ball player thinks? And no I don’t mean sprint and run at the same time. Sprint and shoot, like 117, 058 and especially 087 in all of the novels … Bc immersion …right.
Lol dudes I meant sprint and shoot. My bad. You know if anything, 343 should work on making mobile a lot easier to use.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
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> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > Likewise- Furthermore, I don’t see how this thread is still going. Sprint has been in Halo for over half a decade and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sprint is a dated mechanic that most modern games are no longer using.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Halo needs to evolve with the times or risk being left behind.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Id rather keep sprint.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Me too. But the sprint debate itself is a dated issue and most players won’t be wasting time bumping threads to attempt to revive the issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wish that where true I guess some can’t stand having to hit one button to go a bit faster in a game so they rage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I’ve waited so long for this. To unlock the rage of the anti-sprint group with one word.
> > > > >
> > > > > IMMERSION.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hard to feel immersed when we cant shoot and run at the same time. Silly
> > >
> > >
> > > you mean “hard to feel immersed when we cant sprint and run at the same time. silly”
> > >
> > > Try it dude. It does not work. And most guys on the paintball field think you’re an idiot. Cant sprint without your arm balance.
> >
> >
> > Yes, it would be impossible to sprint and run at the same time. The two are mutually exclusive. You also can’t sprint and crawl at the same time. lol.
> >
> > Anyway. Are most guys on the paintball field biologically enhanced super soldiers in powered assault armor? No? If we’re going with “immersion” and “realism” as if either of those are relevant to the negative impacts it has on Halo, the sprint mechanic still doesn’t hold up. There is no reason Spartans wouldn’t be able to move at optimal speed while keeping their weapon ready, as they did in the books. They aren’t random chumps playing paintball. They are the pinnacle of human augmentation in the 26th century.
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
> > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > Likewise- Furthermore, I don’t see how this thread is still going. Sprint has been in Halo for over half a decade and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Sprint is a dated mechanic that most modern games are no longer using.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Halo needs to evolve with the times or risk being left behind.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Id rather keep sprint.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Me too. But the sprint debate itself is a dated issue and most players won’t be wasting time bumping threads to attempt to revive the issue.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I wish that where true I guess some can’t stand having to hit one button to go a bit faster in a game so they rage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is sprint good for the game?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I’ve waited so long for this. To unlock the rage of the anti-sprint group with one word.
> > > > >
> > > > > IMMERSION.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hard to feel immersed when we cant shoot and run at the same time. Silly
> > >
> > >
> > > you mean “hard to feel immersed when we cant sprint and run at the same time. silly”
> > >
> > > Try it dude. It does not work. And most guys on the paintball field think you’re an idiot. Cant sprint without your arm balance.
> >
> >
> > Most guys on the paintball field aren’t Spartan super soldiers. If you want lore to dictate gameplay be consistent. Why would an economist care what a paint ball player thinks? And no I don’t mean sprint and run at the same time. Sprint and shoot, like 117, 058 and especially 087 in all of the novels … Bc immersion …right.
>
>
> Lol dudes I meant sprint and shoot. My bad. You know if anything, 343 should work on making mobile a lot easier to use.
Lol I was gonna say there’s no way you were being so redundant.
However, my point about lore dictating gameplay still stands. Why can’t we ask for a simple increase in the base movement speed and rid ourselves with the outdated mechanic?
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> > > The first Halo game to add sprint (Reach) PLUMITED the Halo community. The first Halo game to add sprint as a standard mechanic (Halo 4) Ruined the franchise. Is this a coincidence? I think not! Maybe if 343 goes back to what was obviously working, they would make a truly great Halo game. Just look at Overwatch. No sprint… killing Halo 5 in just a few months of release as compared to Halo’s 7 months.
> >
> >
> > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
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> Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
I have already answered that question way to many times to keep repeating myself to every one.
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
> > >
> > >
> > > Likewise- Furthermore, I don’t see how this thread is still going. Sprint has been in Halo for over half a decade and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
> >
> >
> > Sprint is a dated mechanic that most modern games are no longer using.
> >
> > Halo needs to evolve with the times or risk being left behind.
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> Sprint a dated mechanic hahaha last time I checked not sprinting in Halo is older than sprinting in Halo smh…
Last time I checked, the Sprint mechanic is older than Halo.
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> > > > > > > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Likewise- Furthermore, I don’t see how this thread is still going. Sprint has been in Halo for over half a decade and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Sprint is a dated mechanic that most modern games are no longer using.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Halo needs to evolve with the times or risk being left behind.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Id rather keep sprint.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Me too. But the sprint debate itself is a dated issue and most players won’t be wasting time bumping threads to attempt to revive the issue.
> > >
> > >
> > > I wish that where true I guess some can’t stand having to hit one button to go a bit faster in a game so they rage.
> >
> >
> > Why is sprint good for the game?
>
>
> I’ve waited so long for this. To unlock the rage of the anti-sprint group with one word.
>
> IMMERSION.
I don’t feel immersed when I can’t prone, corner lean and die in less than two seconds from basic ballistic bullets.
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> > > The first Halo game to add sprint (Reach) PLUMITED the Halo community. The first Halo game to add sprint as a standard mechanic (Halo 4) Ruined the franchise. Is this a coincidence? I think not! Maybe if 343 goes back to what was obviously working, they would make a truly great Halo game. Just look at Overwatch. No sprint… killing Halo 5 in just a few months of release as compared to Halo’s 7 months.
> >
> >
> > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
>
>
> Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
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> > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
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> > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
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> I have already answered that question way to many times to keep repeating myself to every one.
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> > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
> > >
> > >
> > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
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> >
> > Sprint undermines the very central, core pillar that Halo gameplay was built upon.
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> > Moving and shooting at the same time.
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> > That’s why for so many people, sprint is such a big deal.
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> Its amazing how many core pillars of the Halo franchise there are.
>
> Look its Halo!
Cool strawman
Do you even have the capacity to directly reply to someone?
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> > >
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> > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
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> >
> > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
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> Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
Whether or not someone likes sprint or doesn’t like sprint is irrelevant. Mechanics are implemented based on what they add to the game. If someone says they think sprint should stay just because they like it, then I won’t argue. If someone is gonna whine about people not wanting sprint or say that sprint belongs in the game, then be prepared to explain why that is or whatever else you have to say on the subject is of no importance.
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> > >
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> > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
> >
> >
> > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
>
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> Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
Because it’s a significant issue that has had significant, detrimental effects on the gameplay of this series and by extension, the population. So, if people are going to make excuses for the developers’ bad design decisions, they should have reasons that demonstrate they have actually thought about the issue and not just simplistic, shallow idiocy like “I like to go fast.” And yet, I’ve hardly seen anything resembling the former from the “pro-sprint” crowd. So many people operate under the assumption that their opinion is inherently valuable and all opinions are created equal, but I strongly disagree. If you can’t make a coherent argument and you don’t understand the issue at hand, your opinion is WORTHLESS and in this case HARMFUL. Like most of what LethalQ posts. It’s a conversation. If you aren’t interesting in having one and defending your position, don’t make the stupid post in the first place. Save everyone the time and mental energy of reading the useless crap.
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> > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
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> >
> > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
>
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> Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
Half 9th his arguments are just “OK, but what makes it good?” That’s like saying “Why are gun laws good?” It does nothing but prolong an argument that is otherwise in an unfavorable state for the attacking side.
If you really are curious about what are good reasons for keeping sprint, then maybe you should go from page one and catch up to here.
P.S.
DOOM is not the fastest game in the market, it does seem fast but a lot of it is a wider FOV. I won’t lie that it’s not fast but there are faster games, like some arena shooters, that just aren’t as recent or popular.
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> > > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
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> > > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
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> > I have already answered that question way to many times to keep repeating myself to every one.
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> I guess not then.
If you want to fish through this thread my response is in here some where.
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> > > > > > > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
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> > > > > > > Likewise- Furthermore, I don’t see how this thread is still going. Sprint has been in Halo for over half a decade and it’s not going anywhere anytime soon.
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> > > > > > Sprint is a dated mechanic that most modern games are no longer using.
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> > > > > > Halo needs to evolve with the times or risk being left behind.
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> > > > > Id rather keep sprint.
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> > > > Me too. But the sprint debate itself is a dated issue and most players won’t be wasting time bumping threads to attempt to revive the issue.
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> > > I wish that where true I guess some can’t stand having to hit one button to go a bit faster in a game so they rage.
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> > Why is sprint good for the game?
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> I’ve waited so long for this. To unlock the rage of the anti-sprint group with one word.
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> IMMERSION.
I’m not immersed at all by sprint. Sprint makes me feel like a run of the mill COD soldier with a little but more health.
I feel clunky. I feel slow. I do not feel like a super soldier.
I feel like a super soldier in doom though. Moving quickly in all directions while shooting. That’s what a super soldier should feel like.
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> > > > > The first Halo game to add sprint (Reach) PLUMITED the Halo community. The first Halo game to add sprint as a standard mechanic (Halo 4) Ruined the franchise. Is this a coincidence? I think not! Maybe if 343 goes back to what was obviously working, they would make a truly great Halo game. Just look at Overwatch. No sprint… killing Halo 5 in just a few months of release as compared to Halo’s 7 months.
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> > > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
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> > > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
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> > Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
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> Half 9th his arguments are just “OK, but what makes it good?” That’s like saying “Why are gun laws good?” It does nothing but prolong an argument that is otherwise in an unfavorable state for the attacking side.
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> If you really are curious about what are good reasons for keeping sprint, then maybe you should go from page one and catch up to here.
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> P.S.
> DOOM is not the fastest game in the market, it does seem fast but a lot of it is a wider FOV. I won’t lie that it’s not fast but there are faster games, like some arena shooters, that just aren’t as recent or popular.
So I guess you can’t tell me why sprint is good for the gameplay either, huh? Funny how the anti-sprinters can explain in detail how sprint effects the game negatively, but pro-sprinters all to often can’t seem to explain why it effects the game positively.
P.S. Whether its speed or FOV doesn’t matter, my point remains that Doom doesn’t have sprint and it isn’t “too slow” and is one probably the fastest paced shooter on consoles right now. If you think otherwise, give some examples.
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> > > > > I honestly don’t think sprint makes a big difference either way. I think it makes sense for sprint to be in Halo. If you read the Halo novels, there are instances of Spartans sprinting on several occasions, so it fits with the lore.
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> > > >
> > > > I agree. I don’t see how one mechanic like sprint is some how game making or game breaking. It hilarious how some seem to define a game by one simple mechanic. I love Halo either way. But sprint has been in it long enough I feel it should stay. To me H2A played great and H5 plays great. I don’t get what the big deal is if sprint stays or goes.
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> > > Sprint undermines the very central, core pillar that Halo gameplay was built upon.
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> > > Moving and shooting at the same time.
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> > > That’s why for so many people, sprint is such a big deal.
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> > Its amazing how many core pillars of the Halo franchise there are.
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> > Look its Halo!
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> Cool strawman
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> Do you even have the capacity to directly reply to someone?
hi hows it going.
does this count?
Edit: Honestly, the core pillar argument is not a true argument. You cant decide what a core pillar is, because even Bungie couldnt. Bungie broke the Golden Triangle, Bungie introduced Spartan Abilities, they created the series. Bungie implement dual wielding, hijacking vehicles, equipment, all other sorts of things. All of those broke the “flow” of Halo.
Just a thought. Bungie definitely had the idea for Destiny at least as far back as 2009. They tried it on Halo in 2010. People will argue that it worked or it didnt. But why not just stay with the massive scifi franchise and make Destiny? Its one of two things. Either this community was something they didnt want to deal with, or they didnt want to deal with the market for Halo. You decide.
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> > > > > The first Halo game to add sprint (Reach) PLUMITED the Halo community. The first Halo game to add sprint as a standard mechanic (Halo 4) Ruined the franchise. Is this a coincidence? I think not! Maybe if 343 goes back to what was obviously working, they would make a truly great Halo game. Just look at Overwatch. No sprint… killing Halo 5 in just a few months of release as compared to Halo’s 7 months.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
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> >
> > Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
>
>
> Half 9th his arguments are just “OK, but what makes it good?” That’s like saying “Why are gun laws good?” It does nothing but prolong an argument that is otherwise in an unfavorable state for the attacking side.
>
> If you really are curious about what are good reasons for keeping sprint, then maybe you should go from page one and catch up to here.
>
> P.S.
> DOOM is not the fastest game in the market, it does seem fast but a lot of it is a wider FOV. I won’t lie that it’s not fast but there are faster games, like some arena shooters, that just aren’t as recent or popular.
Yes, I’m sure that wouldn’t be a waste of time. I’m sure LethalG’s response wouldn’t be a one sentence regurgitation of the standard pro-sprint “arguments” that we’ve countless times. And you think its reasonable to expect people to read 100+ pages just to find this? When a simple reiteration would take about as much time as LethalX has spent saying that he won’t repeat himself? You people post, but aren’t interesting in having the conversation, yet will continue to make posts saying that you won’t say anything nonetheless. -Yoink- me, Waypoint discussion is infuriating.
PS: No one is under the impression that Doom is the fastest game on the market, it’s just fast in comparison to Halo 5 and the similarities to the Halo formula in Certain Affinity’s execution of it make the comparison fairly obvious. It’s a very clear illustration that sprint does not make a game faster. Instead, Doom has wider FOV, faster base movement, and extremely snappy strafe acceleration. Funnily enough, almost exactly the kind of changes people have suggested for making Halo faster without a sprint mechanic. Huh. You are vastly more agile and empowered as an individual in Doom’s multiplayer. It also doesn’t have motion-tracker/radar.
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> > > > >
> > > > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
> > >
> > >
> > > Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
> >
> >
> > Half 9th his arguments are just “OK, but what makes it good?” That’s like saying “Why are gun laws good?” It does nothing but prolong an argument that is otherwise in an unfavorable state for the attacking side.
> >
> > If you really are curious about what are good reasons for keeping sprint, then maybe you should go from page one and catch up to here.
> >
> > P.S.
> > DOOM is not the fastest game in the market, it does seem fast but a lot of it is a wider FOV. I won’t lie that it’s not fast but there are faster games, like some arena shooters, that just aren’t as recent or popular.
>
>
> So I guess you can’t tell me why sprint is good for the gameplay either, huh? Funny how the anti-sprinters can explain in detail how sprint effects the game negatively, but pro-sprinters all to often can’t seem to explain why it effects the game positively.
>
> P.S. Whether its speed or FOV doesn’t matter, my point remains that Doom doesn’t have sprint and it isn’t “too slow” and is one probably the fastest paced shooter on consoles right now. If you think otherwise, give some examples.
Is affect or effect the correct usage in this situation? It always boggles me.
Look, most of the anti-sprint points argue with facts that maybe the top 4% of players actually care about. TTK, Map Elongation, Enemies running away and the need to chase, people not being punished for being out of position. Its all unnecessary to the average player. Halo 5 is fun. What Halo is not, however, is accomodating or welcoming to new players. Now more than ever. You need skill to play Halo. And the auto-aim and bullet magnetism of games like CoD have ruined that in the common gamer. People used to be better. Back when there was only Halo to play.
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
> > >
> > >
> > > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
> >
> >
> > Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
>
>
> Half 9th his arguments are just “OK, but what makes it good?” That’s like saying “Why are gun laws good?” It does nothing but prolong an argument that is otherwise in an unfavorable state for the attacking side.
>
> If you really are curious about what are good reasons for keeping sprint, then maybe you should go from page one and catch up to here.
>
> P.S.
> DOOM is not the fastest game in the market, it does seem fast but a lot of it is a wider FOV. I won’t lie that it’s not fast but there are faster games, like some arena shooters, that just aren’t as recent or popular.
I’ve read most of this thread and I haven’t seen any pro sprint arguments that have swayed my opinion at all.
Immersion.
This is highly subjective. I actually find that sprint breaks my immersion because to me it seems silly that a super soldier from the future cannot move quickly and shoot at the same time.
Non sprint is dated.
Actually the fps industry seems to be moving away from sprint. Especially in games that have long kill times (halo falls in this group). Sprint makes h5 feel old and dated.
Makes the game faster.
It really doesn’t. It actually objectively makes the game slower in just about every conceivable way.
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> > > > > > > The first Halo game to add sprint (Reach) PLUMITED the Halo community. The first Halo game to add sprint as a standard mechanic (Halo 4) Ruined the franchise. Is this a coincidence? I think not! Maybe if 343 goes back to what was obviously working, they would make a truly great Halo game. Just look at Overwatch. No sprint… killing Halo 5 in just a few months of release as compared to Halo’s 7 months.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
> > >
> > >
> > > Half 9th his arguments are just “OK, but what makes it good?” That’s like saying “Why are gun laws good?” It does nothing but prolong an argument that is otherwise in an unfavorable state for the attacking side.
> > >
> > > If you really are curious about what are good reasons for keeping sprint, then maybe you should go from page one and catch up to here.
> > >
> > > P.S.
> > > DOOM is not the fastest game in the market, it does seem fast but a lot of it is a wider FOV. I won’t lie that it’s not fast but there are faster games, like some arena shooters, that just aren’t as recent or popular.
> >
> >
> > So I guess you can’t tell me why sprint is good for the gameplay either, huh? Funny how the anti-sprinters can explain in detail how sprint effects the game negatively, but pro-sprinters all to often can’t seem to explain why it effects the game positively.
> >
> > P.S. Whether its speed or FOV doesn’t matter, my point remains that Doom doesn’t have sprint and it isn’t “too slow” and is one probably the fastest paced shooter on consoles right now. If you think otherwise, give some examples.
>
>
> Is affect or effect the correct usage in this situation? It always boggles me.
>
> Look, most of the anti-sprint points argue with facts that maybe the top 4% of players actually care about. TTK, Map Elongation, Enemies running away and the need to chase, people not being punished for being out of position. Its all unnecessary to the average player. Halo 5 is fun. What Halo is not, however, is accomodating or welcoming to new players. Now more than ever. You need skill to play Halo. And the auto-aim and bullet magnetism of games like CoD have ruined that in the common gamer. People used to be better. Back when there was only Halo to play.
It would be “affect” in this case.
And I would say that while the average player is not aware of these things, they are nonetheless impacted by them. Halo 5 in particular introduces a lot of complexity and stress at the expense of real depth. With people thrusting, sliding, thrust sliding all over the place. With ridiculous quick kills with automatics. With stretched out, cluttered maps filled with a million routes, windows, and sneakies. With the tiny motion tracker compromise between casual and competitive. These are all elements that make this game less of the simple fun as a casual game and worse as a competitive Halo game. It’s not as if the top 4% of players are the only ones affected by design changes that fundamentally change map design and gameplay. The larger audience doesn’t need to be able to clearly articulate their issues with the game to have a problem with it. Most of the people who dislike “modern” Halo probably haven’t stuck around long enough to continue these conversations, as evidenced by the drastically smaller install-base and even worse concurrent population of this game versus something like H3.
And the idea that there was only Halo to play is similarly dubious. The original Modern Warfare came out in the same year as Halo 3. Halo 3’s population stayed strong for years after that. It survived MW2 just fine as well. It wasn’t until fundamental, detrimental changes were made to the formula that Halo started its decline.
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> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually it wasn’t sprint IMO… it was loadouts and armor abilities in general not to mention they took away the awesome matchmaking and rank structure. Those things killed Halo not the addition of one mechanic.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is sprint good for the game? Can you not even think of an answer?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Why do you keep demanding people to give you reasons for this? Isn’t the fact that they like sprint good enough? Or do you insist on getting individual points so you can better attempt to pick them apart one by one?
> > >
> > >
> > > Half 9th his arguments are just “OK, but what makes it good?” That’s like saying “Why are gun laws good?” It does nothing but prolong an argument that is otherwise in an unfavorable state for the attacking side.
> > >
> > > If you really are curious about what are good reasons for keeping sprint, then maybe you should go from page one and catch up to here.
> > >
> > > P.S.
> > > DOOM is not the fastest game in the market, it does seem fast but a lot of it is a wider FOV. I won’t lie that it’s not fast but there are faster games, like some arena shooters, that just aren’t as recent or popular.
> >
> >
> > So I guess you can’t tell me why sprint is good for the gameplay either, huh? Funny how the anti-sprinters can explain in detail how sprint effects the game negatively, but pro-sprinters all to often can’t seem to explain why it effects the game positively.
> >
> > P.S. Whether its speed or FOV doesn’t matter, my point remains that Doom doesn’t have sprint and it isn’t “too slow” and is one probably the fastest paced shooter on consoles right now. If you think otherwise, give some examples.
>
>
> Is affect or effect the correct usage in this situation? It always boggles me.
>
> Look, most of the anti-sprint points argue with facts that maybe the top 4% of players actually care about. TTK, Map Elongation, Enemies running away and the need to chase, people not being punished for being out of position. Its all unnecessary to the average player. Halo 5 is fun. What Halo is not, however, is accomodating or welcoming to new players. Now more than ever. You need skill to play Halo. And the auto-aim and bullet magnetism of games like CoD have ruined that in the common gamer. People used to be better. Back when there was only Halo to play.
No. These are issues that only a small % can understand, analyze and articulate. These issues effect everyone though.