The sprint discussion thread

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> > Ayant joué un Halo 3 comme 1er jeu sur la xbox, je ne trouve pas que le sprint soit gênant, au contraire, ça donne un peu de dynamisme puis je tiens à signaler que cette nouvelle fonctionnalité n’est pas obligatoire, on a le choix de l’utiliser ou non. Après sur le nouveau halo, s’il supprime c’est qu’il y a surement une raison, on rejouera à l’ancienne comme ça.
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> Having played Halo 3 as the first game on the xbox, I do not find that the sprint is annoying, on the contrary, it gives a little momentum and then I would point out that this new feature is not required , there is a choice use it or not. After the new halo , it removes is that there probably is a reason we play again in the old way.
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nice man :smiley:

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> Do not get rid of sprint

Yes I agree

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> Any reasons not to? We anti-sprinters/Spartan abilities give explicit and well formed thoughts on the subject, pouring our valuable time and effort into our posts. We discuss how it affects the game itself, not if we can adjust to it or if we’re good at using it. What do you give in return? Don’t take sprint away, I like it, maps would take for ever to move in and worst of them all -> it makes the gameplay faster

To be fair even when pro sprint reasons are brought up, they’re them claimed as invalid More than likely as if a preference can be invalid? People mention why they prefer the bigger elongated maps rather than what they considered small cramped arena maps, people then say they like the risk/reward factor of it only to then be shutdown with “why would you want risk to begin with?”, then there’s the arguement of “faster gameplay”, while sprint actually decreased the speed of gameplay it does give that illusion that people like about it. Upping the base speed is all fine and dandy but not everyone thought dooms pacing gave that feeling of actually doing the fast pace yourself with a lack of animation.

Ao so in short, you’re right, “some” anti- sprinters give good reasons, but “some” pro-sprinters also give good reasons only to then be claimed as invalid. As I said earlier, preferences can’t be invalid, but even then, it doesn’t mean one can ignore the obvious effects a said mechanic has whether he likes it or not.

This is the largest controversial issue in the Halo community. You need to be able to sprint, though. It’s just not going to happen. 343i will never remove sprint. It’s such a basic mechanic that they will not remove. Suck it up. Not saying this to be a jerk, just stating facts.

Wow this has become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like the jack-yoniks they are

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> wow this become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like jack-yoniks they are

Look at the first 2 comments. My “Id rather keep sprint” has way more likes. The community has spoken.

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> didn’t even bother reading it because it is the dumbest topic out there right now. Just because it has sprint doesn’t mean its not Halo. It’s one whole mechanic, that’s it. If you don’t like sprint, don’t sprint. Problem solved.

If you speedrun, you put yourself at a disadvantage. If you play multiplayer, you then put yourself at a disadvantage.

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> > wow this become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like jack-yoniks they are
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> Look at the first 2 comments. My “Id rather keep sprint” has way more likes. The community has spoken.

They have indeed, hence the worst selling halo title to date, let’s not even discuss the insanely small population. The community has indeed spoken, thanks basic economics.

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> > wow this become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like jack-yoniks they are
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> Look at the first 2 comments. My “Id rather keep sprint” has way more likes. The community has spoken.

Speak for yourself and only the other 200 people who agree. The community as a whole didn’t agree with you. As of this point, I honestly hate sprint being in Halo. Back in Halo Reach, it was optional, but not required for you to be on the same level as everyone else. I loved Halo back in the day because of the fact that it didn’t have sprint, it stood out. If I want a game with sprint, I’ll go play COD, Titan Fall, GTA V, and several other games. Besides the fact that since we introduced sprint, we now added ADS to every single gun in the game, making it more like Call of Duty and Battlefield. Why purchase and play Halo when other games have the exact same mechanics?

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> wow this become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like the jack-yoniks they are

I wouldn’t either untill I full well know that it can make a change for good. What guarantee is there that no sprint halo will help overall? I keep saying it: I simply don’t think halos issue is solely on sprint, and sprint as of right now still can’t be singled out as the main reason of halos downfall. Halos issue could be the added abilities, sprint, change of art style, lack of quality campaign, downgrades in features since reach, adding changes that aren’t new to gaming but have already been done, resulting in halo becoming just another generic fps game. Point is 343 is still trying to set their foundation, they’ve changed quite a bit from h4 to h5 that IMO has them going in the right direction at least, the issue with h5 besides its terrible lack of variety and downgrades in features is it suffered because of Mccs launch and h4s drastic changes to the gameplay while still retaining some of the issues I listed above. The only way to find out for sure is to make a game that plays exactly like h2 or h3, if it does better than the newer games, we have our anwser that it must’ve been the combination of new things added that were the issue, if it doesn’t work out then we know these newer additions were never really the issue but rather that halo is just on franchise fatigue. That’s my perspective of it.

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> > > wow this become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like jack-yoniks they are
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> Speak for yourself and only the other 200 people who agree. The community as a whole didn’t agree with you. As of this point, I honestly hate sprint being in Halo. Back in Halo Reach, it was optional, but not required for you to be on the same level as everyone else. I loved Halo back in the day because of the fact that it didn’t have sprint, it stood out. If I want a game with sprint, I’ll go play COD, Titan Fall, GTA V, and several other games. Besides the fact that since we introduced sprint, we now added ADS to every single gun in the game, making it more like Call of Duty and Battlefield. Why purchase and play Halo when other games have the exact same mechanics?

It was a joke because im still getting likes on my post.

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> > > wow this become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like jack-yoniks they are
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> They have indeed, hence the worst selling halo title to date, let’s not even discuss the insanely small population. The community has indeed spoken, thanks basic economics.

You know I never bought Halo 5 until I had enough money to buy an Xbox One (~January). I wanted to play the game when it came out, and I had an Xbox 360 from years of playing before. Think that may have something to do with a “lower population?” I also don’t think that someone who was on the edge of buying Halo 5 would use the sprint topic to determine whether or not to buy the game. In addition, although it has sold the least copies, it still has one of the highest earnings of the franchise. I doubt that 343 is very worried that the population is “insanely small” when they have this high amount of sales regardless.

No… keep sprint. Remove shouldercharge.

Keep sprint. Halo needs to evolve. Halo 5 has the best multiplayer since Halo 3

If you don’t want sprint go play MCC :3

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> You know I never bought Halo 5 until I had enough money to buy an Xbox One (~January). I wanted to play the game when it came out, and I had an Xbox 360 from years of playing before. Think that may have something to do with a “lower population?” I also don’t think that someone who was on the edge of buying Halo 5 would use the sprint topic to determine whether or not to buy the game. In addition, although it has sold the least copies, it still has one of the highest earnings of the franchise. I doubt that 343 is very worried that the population is “insanely small” when they have this high amount of sales regardless.

It’s never just one mechanic that puts buyers over the top on buying or not buying a game , but to ignore the drastic effect it had on the gameplay, how people who initially played halo enjoyed the game and where it is now is intellectual dishonesty. Also the sales figures are a vague representation of all items packaged with the halo name on the package. We only know 5 has sold less than ODST to this point. Which is abysmal.

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> Keep sprint. Halo needs to evolve. Halo 5 has the best multiplayer since Halo 3

Needs to evolve is not an argument. Can you explain why it is good for gameplay?

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> If you don’t want sprint go play MCC :3

Also not an argument, a broken collection of poorly ported games is in now way fan service. We’ve had sprint for 6 years now, the franchise has fallen, maybe it’s time halo actually evolves. Let’s ditch the mechanic that takes up a button on our control, disables our ability to shoot in a shooting game. Let’s have fast gameplay with no gimmicks. That’s evolution.

People wanted sprint back then too. It would be a problem if sprint was taken away, we’d be back at square one, where people will complain about “not being able to take over a stronghold fast enough”, or "hey, that b*tch has our flag, and he’s in a warthog, well, it looks like another defeat. Sprint is helpful, so shut up, damn sprint haters, we’ve all tolerated sprint since reach! But what I want back is the old armour abilities back, like the jetpack or the regeneration field.

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> > > wow this become a Mega-Thread but ignorant 343 won’t change anything like jack-yoniks they are
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Yes, because you should blame sprint and not the failure of mcc, a forgettable campaign, or a severe lack of content at the games release. No, sprint is obviously why halo 5 failed.