The Speculations of the "Remake Level"

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Welcome, fellow Halo fans! I recently saw the Twitter post that Frank O’Connor made about the clue for the much speculated and only “Remake Level” in Halo 4’s shipped maps. For all of you who haven’t, here it is:

> @k_wolfkill @RobSemsey KIDS ARE READING THIS RIGHT NOW AND TRYING TO GUESS WHAT THE BIG REMAKE MAP IS BASED ON THIS CLUE: Carta De Oaxaca.

Carta De Oaxaca… What does it mean? The following post will be everything that we’ve PROABABLY over thinked, and I’m here to give you the facts so you can decide what it will actually be. So, here goes nothing.

-WHAT IS “CARTA DE OAXACA”?-

Carta De Oaxaca is a Mexican food restaurant in Seattle, Washington (http://www.lacartadeoaxaca.com/) Carta De Oaxaca also translates to “Letter of Oaxaca”, but this could mean nothing.

This restaurant is in Washington, which is the state where 343i is located. This could be a place where people at 343i might go for lunch. Why does this matter?

For people who don’t trust links, this is Jesse Snyder saying the following:

> For fun at 343, Ray, our lead level designer modeled the Eastside of the Seattle area with the places we eat for lunch.

and

> …People going for lunch get to place three marines in places they don’t like

He also goes on to talk about Grunt’s having random path finding, but this is not important.

-WHAT COULD THIS ALL LINK TO?-

Well, most people who live in Washington decided to eat at this restaurant after Frank O’Connor posted this on Twitter, and have reported the following.

> I just got back from Seattle where I had lunch at La Carta de Oaxaca. When I entered they greeted me by saying: “Welcome to La Carta de Oaxaca where Valhalla once stood and Don Miguel Julio Juarez III died while fighting to bring you this great Mexican food! Is this to stay or to go?”
>
> Its totally Valhalla.

I don’t claim for this to be true, but if it is, I don’t remember Valhalla ever being a part of Mexican culture. (Correct me if I’m wrong though :P)

Also, the restaurant has a burrito that is called “Mexican-Standoff Burrito”, which could also be a clue.

Another thing said by others on the forum is…

> La Carta de Oaxaca is in the Ballard area of Seattle. Apparently Ballard is known for its Scandinavian culture. Scandinavia is a part of the Nordic countries. Valhalla is from Norse mythology. The Nordic Heritage Museum is even near La Carta de Oaxaca.]

Other speculations think that the map could be Longshore becuase the place sells fish tacos. Sandtrap might be another possibility because Mexican food is from… Mexico, and Mexico is a…erm… Desert. But, this is all speculation.

-WHAT DO WE KNOW THAT’S NOT SPECULATION?-

Well, what we know that the map is BIG. And very big. And supposedly will “cause the least drama of any new thing”

Other than that, we know almost nothing about it.

Well that’s all I have. If you have anything to contribute, please post down below. And if any of my facts are wrong, please post too. And also…

DISCUSS! :smiley:

-LINKS-

Frank O’Connor’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/franklez

Forum Post Where I Got Information - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=490778

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Post #8,837,837 about this topic.

It’s Sandtrap. Deal with it.

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It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.

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Neither, this poll is bad. Include some actual good maps.

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Ducain23 had pretty good ideas on the remake
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPzSrSEQYiU&feature=g-u-u

Its either sandbox or sandtrap in my opinion

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> It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.

I like trains.

On Topic: Didn’t Frankie say that the remake was supposed to be a larger map? Terminal is more medium-sized, if you ask me.

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> It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.

That picture of those ruins that’s been circulating around here for a few days now really suggests Sandtrap. At a glance, the environments looks very similar. Either way, i’d be one happy camper with Terminal too.

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> > It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.
>
> I like trains.
>
> On Topic: Didn’t Frankie say that the remake was supposed to be a larger map? Terminal is more medium-sized, if you ask me.

He never said that it was a big map, he just said that it wasn’t a small map.

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> > > It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.
> >
> > I like trains.
> >
> > On Topic: Didn’t Frankie say that the remake was supposed to be a larger map? Terminal is more medium-sized, if you ask me.
>
> He never said that it was a big map, he just said that it wasn’t a small map.

I don’t know; just the way he worded it made it seem like it was going to be a large map.

It’s like if someone said “Oh, I’m not your average teenager…”

“How so?”

“I volunteer on the weekend.”

Ya see, that just doesn’t fit.

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I hope they make Sandtrap look interesting this time around if it is remade.

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I hope it isn’t Sandtrap. Didn’t really care for that map much. Hope it’s Valhalla or some other map from Halo 2.

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> > > > It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.
> > >
> > > I like trains.
> > >
> > > On Topic: Didn’t Frankie say that the remake was supposed to be a larger map? Terminal is more medium-sized, if you ask me.
> >
> > He never said that it was a big map, he just said that it wasn’t a small map.
>
> I don’t know; just the way he worded it made it seem like it was going to be a large map.
>
> It’s like if someone said “Oh, I’m not your average teenager…”
>
> “How so?”
>
> “I volunteer on the weekend.”
>
> Ya see, that just doesn’t fit.

Don’t read into it too much. :wink:

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Sandtrap
Sandbox
Sand in my eye
Sandwich
Sandpaper

Sand !!!

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^^^

I want Valhalla !!!

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Containment, Terminal (please for the love of god be Terminal), Waterworks, Relic, Burial Mounds. Sandtrap with that new Mammoth is another possibility.

As long as i don’t see another Blood Gulch remake. Okay i get it, great map (no really, it’s awesome) but it’s not the only BTB that deserves to be remade.

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> Neither, this poll is bad. Include some actual good maps.

Implying Valhalla and Sandtrap are not good?

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> > It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.
>
> That picture of those ruins that’s been circulating around here for a few days now really suggests Sandtrap. At a glance, the environments looks very similar. Either way, i’d be one happy camper with Terminal too.

That picture of Ruins was a picture of Oaxaca. Which is in Mexico. And Frankie confirmed it has nothing to do with Mexico. Therefore a picture of Mexico is not the hint.

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> > > > It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.
> > >
> > > I like trains.
> > >
> > > On Topic: Didn’t Frankie say that the remake was supposed to be a larger map? Terminal is more medium-sized, if you ask me.
> >
> > He never said that it was a big map, he just said that it wasn’t a small map.
>
> I don’t know; just the way he worded it made it seem like it was going to be a large map.
>
> It’s like if someone said “Oh, I’m not your average teenager…”
>
> “How so?”
>
> “I volunteer on the weekend.”
>
> Ya see, that just doesn’t fit.

Either way in last week’s update BS Angel said it’s definitely a BTB map, and most certainly outdoors.

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> > It’s not Sandtrap, Valhalla, or anything else from Halo 3. It’s probably something from Halo 2, which had a far better selection of maps. I’m hoping for Terminal, myself.
>
> That picture of those ruins that’s been circulating around here for a few days now really suggests Sandtrap. At a glance, the environments looks very similar. Either way, i’d be one happy camper with Terminal too.

That picture was debunked when several people who went to the restaurant reported not seeing it anywhere.

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I hope it’s not Valhalla. I hope it’s not Hemorrhage. I hope it’s not Coagulation. I hope it’s not Blood Gulch.

I hope we get a map that is actually playable.