The solution for lack of small maps - Forge

As we all know halo 4 came with relatively few maps in general but especially small ones. Luckily we have three new map packs coming out in quick succession, unluckily in the crimson pack they are all medium/big and not good 4v4 or 8ffa. However all is not lost.

Firstly we have two more map packs and they might contain smaller maps as opposed to the big ones of crimson.

But my main point here is with halo 4’s forge. As you you know the forge maps are all small. Because of this I believe 343i are making bigger DLC maps as players cannot make big maps easily in forge, but rather smaller maps as big maps will be hard to make due to size limitations and a small plot of land.
Reach’s forge failure in many people eyes was that all the maps, no matter how good or balanced they where, where the same 5 shades of grey with no dynamic lighting in the same grassy green hills which made you want to stab pins in your eyes after the tenth game. The dynamic lighting and varied environments of Halo 4’s forge mean that forge maps are also good looking thus vastly improving their replayability and appeal.

When the forge maps get into matchmaking we will have plenty of good small maps which will also look good, the thing is that 343i needs to add forge maps in to matchmaking rosters. Obviously not many maps have been made so far but It baffles me why Relay (343i’s map on impact) is not in MM.

This is similar with remakes as, while maps like guardian are amazing and I would love to have a HD remake, it can be 99-100% made while maps like avalanche and sandtrap are impossible on current maps. Another way to add many more maps would be to add more forge maps. (We need a big snow map and a big sand map)

TL;DR: Players can’t make big maps on forge but only small maps so 343i are making big maps for us. To improve small scale MM 343i has to include more forge maps. Luckily forge maps now look really good as opposed to reach. More forge areas such as a desert or a snow plateau would be desirable.

What do you think?

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I definitely want to see Relay added soon, I want it added right not tbh, I like the smaller maps we have at the minute but they are getting old. And what sucks is friends I play with who are at the minute (happy with Halo 4 over Black Ops 2) are starting to get bored and some new “Infinity Slayer” maps would be a nice change and what they need to keep them interested, I’ll keep playing regardless but if 343 dont shake things up a little were going to start losing players to B02’s happy slappy run n gun easy kills gameplay. I don’t think 343 will do it though.

I definitely agree with everything you said. I am still really confused as to why they have not added these maps, it seems like such an easy task. But I find it interesting that in reach there were way to many forge maps, but in 4 they took it a new extreme with no forge maps. Im not playing nearly as much as I usually would because of this though.

> I definitely agree with everything you said. I am still really confused as to why they have not added these maps, it seems like such an easy task. But I find it interesting that in reach there were way to many forge maps, but in 4 they took it a new extreme with no forge maps. Im not playing nearly as much as I usually would because of this though.

I believe the backlash in reach is to blame for lack of forge maps in halo 4.

Hyperice, I’m sure that your reasoning on 343’s focus on more small-med to BTB(Large) maps, is pretty accurate.

It does make sense.

It felt cheap at the time, but now I find myself fondly looking back on the forgeworld maps Bungie had for Reach on day one.

I’ve looked at the larger maps in Halo 4, and I don’t see why there aren’t already some forged maps for 4v4 slayer.

The forge maps are huge and big maps are able to be easily made on them.

But the rest I agree on. Add Relay!

> The forge maps are huge and big maps are able to be easily made on them.
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> But the rest I agree on. Add Relay!

They are big but only really have 1 big ground area while forge world had about 10 different big areas. This means that while (for example) ravine is big enough for a big map, there is only one grassy area which will be used for most BTB maps unless they are entirely floating. Making maps suitable for vehicles using only forge items is hard and time consuming.

Yes, and Relay really should be added.