The SMG in Halo 3 ODST was overpowered!

I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.

Who else noticed how amazing that gun was?

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> I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> Who else noticed how amazing that gun was?

dude I think u were playing of easy…

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> dude I think u were playing of easy…

I’m not even sure the SMG can take down the weakest Easy power armor but I know the SMG is only good against soft targets on Legendary.

The Assault Rifle can deal with a Legendary power armor unlike the SMG (and any enemy below in hit points) but it’s not going to easily kill a hard to reach target (or a target one expect to take cover) at medium range… out and no cover nearby you can take your time to deal with an enemy outside his attack range if you don’t go full auto.

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> > I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> dude I think u were playing of easy…

That’s what I’m thinking, An Smg to destroy a Wraith on legendary would be a whole lot different xd

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> I’m not even sure the SMG can take down the weakest Easy power armor but I know the SMG is only good against soft targets on Legendary.
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> The Assault Rifle can deal with a Legendary power armor unlike the SMG (and any enemy below in hit points) but it’s not going to easily kill a hard to reach target (or a target one expect to take cover) at medium range… out and no cover nearby you can take your time to deal with an enemy outside his attack range if you don’t go full auto.

Compared to the AR in Halo 3, the AR felt weaker against enemy shields in a attempt to make ODSTs seem weaker (which I think was a very strange and bad idea because it made the AR feel weaker than the SMG rendering it obselete). The Silenced SMG felt a lot more suited to taking out brutes jackals and grunts in the game. Also the Optical scope gave it more range potential if fired in short bursts. I would have to agree with the post. It was a good weapon to use. Its actually one of my favourite weapons to use in Halo. Though it cant destroy a wraith in two magazines. and it cant kill a brute in 5 shots.

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> Compared to the AR in Halo 3, the AR felt weaker against enemy shields in a attempt to make ODSTs seem weaker (which I think was a very strange and bad idea because it made the AR feel weaker than the SMG rendering it obselete). The Silenced SMG felt a lot more suited to taking out brutes jackals and grunts in the game. Also the Optical scope gave it more range potential if fired in short bursts. I would have to agree with the post. It was a good weapon to use. Its actually one of my favourite weapons to use in Halo. Though it cant destroy a wraith in two magazines. and it cant kill a brute in 5 shots.

If the Assault Rifle is weaker against shields the difference is barely noticeable, the SMG is good against unshielded targets but not a lot more than an AR (both are good) , it’s decent shield damage dealer versus damage dealer with a scope… the AR can still attack and kill a target beyond the red reticle range even if it’s going to take more time.

The attempt was failed as soon it was decided that bashing Wraiths and stealing vehicles from Brutes was a thing… and playing with shields too.

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> > Compared to the AR in Halo 3, the AR felt weaker against enemy shields in a attempt to make ODSTs seem weaker (which I think was a very strange and bad idea because it made the AR feel weaker than the SMG rendering it obselete). The Silenced SMG felt a lot more suited to taking out brutes jackals and grunts in the game. Also the Optical scope gave it more range potential if fired in short bursts. I would have to agree with the post. It was a good weapon to use. Its actually one of my favourite weapons to use in Halo. Though it cant destroy a wraith in two magazines. and it cant kill a brute in 5 shots.
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> If the Assault Rifle is weaker against shields the difference is barely noticeable, the SMG is good against unshielded targets but not a lot more than an AR (both are good) , it’s decent shield damage dealer versus damage dealer with a scope… the AR can still attack and kill a target beyond the red reticle range even if it’s going to take more time.
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> The attempt was failed as soon it was decided that bashing Wraiths and stealing vehicles from Brutes was a thing… and playing with shields too.

If you watched the Desperate Measures ViDoc then you should know that Buck says the SMG’s fire Armour piercing Caseless Ammo effective against shields and body armour. Also for the attempt at making ODSTs seem weaker. Your right. I even say the attempt was bad. The SMG is meant to function as a Close range Full auto weapon similar to the Halo 1 AR (Faster rate of fire than the AR But less range). And I could notice the AR being weaker Mainly because I commented about it not to mention YouTubers like Act man being able to notice it. Im not denying it cant kill targets at longer ranges but compared to a scoped weapon like the BR or DMR it obviously takes longer mainly because its comfort zone is Short to mid.The silenced Variant of the SMG has the same. But can kill Enemies at longer distances easier due to the scope.

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> I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> Who else noticed how amazing that gun was?

I agree it was a good weapon. One of my favourite weapons to use in a Halo Game. What I don’t recall is it destroying a wraith in two magazines and killing a brute in 5 hits. Like you I have played the ODST campaign on Legendary and I can confirm that that’s not true. Otherwise it would be Much easier.

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> > > I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> > dude I think u were playing of easy…
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> That’s what I’m thinking, An Smg to destroy a Wraith on legendary would be a whole lot different xd

I’m thinking the same thing. There’s no way that the Silenced SMG is a go to weapon and doesn’t crack top five for weapons in the series. The Halo CE Pistol was an overpowered, amazing weapon.

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> If you watched the Desperate Measures ViDoc then you should know that Buck says the SMG’s fire Armour piercing Caseless Ammo effective against shields and body armour. Also for the attempt at making ODSTs seem weaker. Your right. I even say the attempt was bad. The SMG is meant to function as a Close range Full auto weapon similar to the Halo 1 AR (Faster rate of fire than the AR But less range). And I could notice the AR being weaker Mainly because I commented about it not to mention YouTubers like Act man being able to notice it. Im not denying it cant kill targets at longer ranges but compared to a scoped weapon like the BR or DMR it obviously takes longer mainly because its comfort zone is Short to mid.The silenced Variant of the SMG has the same. But can kill Enemies at longer distances easier due to the scope.

Both the Assault Right and the SMG in ODST need almost the entire clip to take down a Legendary blue Brute captain power armor.

In Halo 3 the AR need around 16 bullets on the same enemy + at a longer range it would be pretty fast if 32 bullets weren’t an issue.

The cut is large, it’s surprising the weapon is still good against Brutes.

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> > If you watched the Desperate Measures ViDoc then you should know that Buck says the SMG’s fire Armour piercing Caseless Ammo effective against shields and body armour. Also for the attempt at making ODSTs seem weaker. Your right. I even say the attempt was bad. The SMG is meant to function as a Close range Full auto weapon similar to the Halo 1 AR (Faster rate of fire than the AR But less range). And I could notice the AR being weaker Mainly because I commented about it not to mention YouTubers like Act man being able to notice it. Im not denying it cant kill targets at longer ranges but compared to a scoped weapon like the BR or DMR it obviously takes longer mainly because its comfort zone is Short to mid.The silenced Variant of the SMG has the same. But can kill Enemies at longer distances easier due to the scope.
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> Both the Assault Right and the SMG in ODST need almost the entire clip to take down a Legendary blue Brute captain power armor.
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> In Halo 3 the AR need around 16 bullets on the same enemy + at a longer range it would be pretty fast if 32 bullets weren’t an issue.
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> The cut is large, it’s surprising the weapon is still good against Brutes.

Firstly the SMG has a Higher ammo capacity and a faster fire rate. Its more appropriate to deal with brutes. And with But again. I have seen different to what you say. But that’s me playing on Legendary.

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> > > > I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> > That’s what I’m thinking, An Smg to destroy a Wraith on legendary would be a whole lot different xd
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> I’m thinking the same thing. There’s no way that the Silenced SMG is a go to weapon and doesn’t crack top five for weapons in the series. The Halo CE Pistol was an overpowered, amazing weapon.

I agree. I like the CE pistol so much I dislike the fact it kills in three hits to the head.

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> > > If you watched the Desperate Measures ViDoc then you should know that Buck says the SMG’s fire Armour piercing Caseless Ammo effective against shields and body armour. Also for the attempt at making ODSTs seem weaker. Your right. I even say the attempt was bad. The SMG is meant to function as a Close range Full auto weapon similar to the Halo 1 AR (Faster rate of fire than the AR But less range). And I could notice the AR being weaker Mainly because I commented about it not to mention YouTubers like Act man being able to notice it. Im not denying it cant kill targets at longer ranges but compared to a scoped weapon like the BR or DMR it obviously takes longer mainly because its comfort zone is Short to mid.The silenced Variant of the SMG has the same. But can kill Enemies at longer distances easier due to the scope.
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> Firstly the SMG has a Higher ammo capacity and a faster fire rate. Its more appropriate to deal with brutes. And with But again. I have seen different to what you say. But that’s me playing on Legendary.

Secondly the AR is weaker in ODST as mentioned before in my previous post. Why I have no idea but the change is noticeable. I’m not saying the SMG is better than the AR because like you I like the AR being the “one in the middle”

Guiscardus - Please don’t post multiple time in a row. If you need to add more information or quote other users, you can edit your last post. Thanks

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> Guiscardus - Please don’t post multiple time in a row. If you need to add more information or quote other users, you can edit your last post. Thanks

thank you Stckrboy I clicked the wrong button Apologies

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> thank you stckrboy I clicked the wrong button. Apologies

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> Secondly the AR is weaker in ODST as mentioned before in my previous post. Why I have no idea but the change is noticeable. I’m not saying the SMG is better than the AR because like you I like the AR being the “one in the middle”

I heard of the Assault Rifle being weaker in ODST before but I didn’t expected the loss being a 50% (on shields at least) .

In my previous post I just tested the AR on Halo 3 and ODST then the SMG on ODST… again, you need almost all bullets to take down a Legendary blue captain power armor.

If the AR wasn’t nerfed the SMG would be worthless, no reason to use it on a Brute and others enemies (no Hunter) can be killed with the Magnum at a distance and if you wanted to engage at close range the AR wins.

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> > > > > I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> > > That’s what I’m thinking, An Smg to destroy a Wraith on legendary would be a whole lot different xd
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> > I’m thinking the same thing. There’s no way that the Silenced SMG is a go to weapon and doesn’t crack top five for weapons in the series. The Halo CE Pistol was an overpowered, amazing weapon.
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> I agree. I like the CE pistol so much I dislike the fact it kills in three hits to the head.

The CE pistol is beast! You really need to know what you’re doing to get a perfect 3-shot kill

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> > > > > > I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> > > > That’s what I’m thinking, An Smg to destroy a Wraith on legendary would be a whole lot different xd
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> > > I’m thinking the same thing. There’s no way that the Silenced SMG is a go to weapon and doesn’t crack top five for weapons in the series. The Halo CE Pistol was an overpowered, amazing weapon.
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> > I agree. I like the CE pistol so much I dislike the fact it kills in three hits to the head.
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> The CE pistol is beast! You really need to know what you’re doing to get a perfect 3-shot kill

Darn right! And it’s actually good for downing banshees!

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> > > > > > > I have replayed ODST twice in Legendary mode and i found that the SMG was basically your go to weapon. It is soooo powerful and easily the best weapon in the series. It only takes 5 rounds to knock out a brute and 2 magazines to take out a wraith! So amazing and awesome.
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> > > > > > dude I think u were playing of easy…
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> > > > > That’s what I’m thinking, An Smg to destroy a Wraith on legendary would be a whole lot different xd
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> > > > I’m thinking the same thing. There’s no way that the Silenced SMG is a go to weapon and doesn’t crack top five for weapons in the series. The Halo CE Pistol was an overpowered, amazing weapon.
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> > > I agree. I like the CE pistol so much I dislike the fact it kills in three hits to the head.
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> Darn right! And it’s actually good for downing banshees!

It’s good for taking down anything. That pistol is a kill all!