> > I cannot believe people are still defending luck-factors such as bloom on page 47 of this thread.
> >
> > Therre’s plenty reasons mentioned in the previous pages and on this page, yet people keep defending the things that ruined Halo : Reach to me and many others.
> >
> > How is RANDOM BLOOM a good thing?
> >
> > explain.
>
> It’s not random. You know your bullet will always land in that circle. herp
>
> If you’re losing to other people, it’s clearly because they’re more skilled than you are, not that they suck and the game let them win derp.
Ahh… It’s this excuse again. how cute :3
also, from comparing our Halo : Reach stats it appears than I am better than you and I also have more experience with the game than you have. and your DMR KD/R is terrible compared to mine so that kinda makes your opinion invalid because you fail to use DMR.
It’s been proven several times that bloom is random and you know it is.
don’t believe me? get 2 controllers and use a medium distance between the two players, and pull the trigger as fast as you can. you will see that there will be results as 7 shots to kill a player and results as 10-12 shots to kill a full shielded player.
> > I cannot believe people are still defending luck-factors such as bloom on page 47 of this thread.
> >
> > Therre’s plenty reasons mentioned in the previous pages and on this page, yet people keep defending the things that ruined Halo : Reach to me and many others.
> >
> > How is RANDOM BLOOM a good thing?
> >
> > explain.
>
> It’s not random. You know your bullet will always land in that circle. herp
>
> If you’re losing to other people, it’s clearly because they’re more skilled than you are, not that they suck and the game let them win derp.
1.) the goal of bloom was to enforce a cadence
2.) shooting to cadence is really only a valid tactic at range (fail, see #1)
3.) the closer you get to your opponent, the less cadence applies (more fail the closer 2 people are together)
4.) players both casual and competitive can attest to how spamming the trigger actually becomes the more reliable option here.
5.) So, ultimately while the goal was to make the weapons feel more sophisticated and add a layer of skill required to use them, the net result has been that medium range weapons such as the DMR feel unreliable at their intended range.
6.) and trigger spam has not been discouraged. (but, as implied, it was meant to be)
> > I cannot believe people are still defending luck-factors such as bloom on page 47 of this thread.
> >
> > Therre’s plenty reasons mentioned in the previous pages and on this page, yet people keep defending the things that ruined Halo : Reach to me and many others.
> >
> > How is RANDOM BLOOM a good thing?
> >
> > explain.
>
> It’s not random. You know your bullet will always land in that circle. herp
>
> If you’re losing to other people, it’s clearly because they’re more skilled than you are, not that they suck and the game let them win derp.
There is a picture of a circle, even has a cross hair for you. When your reticle is expanded your bullet can fall ANYWHERE in that circle. Are you really going to deny that it’s not random? That your bullet will RANDOMLY land SOMEWHERE in that circle?
> > > I cannot believe people are still defending luck-factors such as bloom on page 47 of this thread.
> > >
> > > Therre’s plenty reasons mentioned in the previous pages and on this page, yet people keep defending the things that ruined Halo : Reach to me and many others.
> > >
> > > How is RANDOM BLOOM a good thing?
> > >
> > > explain.
> >
> > It’s not random. You know your bullet will always land in that circle. herp
> >
> > If you’re losing to other people, it’s clearly because they’re more skilled than you are, not that they suck and the game let them win derp.
>
> http://www.gap-system.org/~history/Curvepics/Circle/Circle1.gif
>
> There is a picture of a circle, even has a cross hair for you. When your reticle is expanded your bullet can fall ANYWHERE in that circle. Are you really going to deny that it’s not random? That your bullet will RANDOMLY land SOMEWHERE in that circle?
honestly, we shouldnt even bother. theres some people on this forum that are either trolling, or incapable of debating using logic and reason.
> > > > I cannot believe people are still defending luck-factors such as bloom on page 47 of this thread.
> > > >
> > > > Therre’s plenty reasons mentioned in the previous pages and on this page, yet people keep defending the things that ruined Halo : Reach to me and many others.
> > > >
> > > > How is RANDOM BLOOM a good thing?
> > > >
> > > > explain.
> > >
> > > It’s not random. You know your bullet will always land in that circle. herp
> > >
> > > If you’re losing to other people, it’s clearly because they’re more skilled than you are, not that they suck and the game let them win derp.
> >
> > http://www.gap-system.org/~history/Curvepics/Circle/Circle1.gif
> >
> > There is a picture of a circle, even has a cross hair for you. When your reticle is expanded your bullet can fall ANYWHERE in that circle. Are you really going to deny that it’s not random? That your bullet will RANDOMLY land SOMEWHERE in that circle?
>
> honestly, we shouldnt even bother. theres some people on this forum that are either trolling, or incapable of debating using logic and reason.
I know there’s alot of trolls around here, it’s a shame that 343 cannot listen to everyone giving feedback because there’s always some trolls that are trying to mess things up, such as the implemention of bloom in reach.
That is not fair to the “lesser skilled player” Halo was always about even odds. Its not like cod where you pick the weapon you spawn with, you always start with the same weapon with the power weapons scattered around. If you are really a “skilled player” Than there shouldnt be a problem. If a guy kills you with a sniper, then you whine and moan, blame it on bloom. Make yourself feel better about yourself by saying he got a cheap kill. But at the end of the day, you know that you really must not be “all that” at halo. There, thread finished, now lets move to a real topic please?
> > > > > I cannot believe people are still defending luck-factors such as bloom on page 47 of this thread.
> > > > >
> > > > > Therre’s plenty reasons mentioned in the previous pages and on this page, yet people keep defending the things that ruined Halo : Reach to me and many others.
> > > > >
> > > > > How is RANDOM BLOOM a good thing?
> > > > >
> > > > > explain.
> > > >
> > > > It’s not random. You know your bullet will always land in that circle. herp
> > > >
> > > > If you’re losing to other people, it’s clearly because they’re more skilled than you are, not that they suck and the game let them win derp.
> > >
> > > http://www.gap-system.org/~history/Curvepics/Circle/Circle1.gif
> > >
> > > There is a picture of a circle, even has a cross hair for you. When your reticle is expanded your bullet can fall ANYWHERE in that circle. Are you really going to deny that it’s not random? That your bullet will RANDOMLY land SOMEWHERE in that circle?
> >
> > honestly, we shouldnt even bother. theres some people on this forum that are either trolling, or incapable of debating using logic and reason.
>
> I know there’s alot of trolls around here, it’s a shame that 343 cannot listen to everyone giving feedback because there’s always some trolls that are trying to mess things up, such as the implemention of bloom in reach.
so obvious to spot them too!
> That is not fair to the “lesser skilled player” Halo was always about even odds. Its not like cod where you pick the weapon you spawn with, you always start with the same weapon with the power weapons scattered around. If you are really a “skilled player” Than there shouldnt be a problem. If a guy kills you with a sniper, then you whine and moan, blame it on bloom. Make yourself feel better about yourself by saying he got a cheap kill. But at the end of the day, you know that you really must not be “all that” at halo. There, thread finished, now lets move to a real topic please?
bloom is inherently flawed, as stated by shishka, a former bungie employee.
