> > > We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
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> > Post ONE video, PLEASE. Just ONE.
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> > I ment to quote but replied. Here is the video where the bloom had a big factor on the best strafer in Halo IMO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVYWT364VM. Very very good proof. The guy cant aim for his life yet he gets the kill.
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> Is that good enough for you?
I just posted this again in great detail so trolls can’t counter my evidence.
> > > We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
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> > Post ONE video, PLEASE. Just ONE.
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> > I ment to quote but replied. Here is the video where the bloom had a big factor on the best strafer in Halo IMO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVYWT364VM. Very very good proof. The guy cant aim for his life yet he gets the kill.
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> Is that good enough for you?
Its not going to be good enough. Just don’t feed the troll. Best to ignore the guy.
Well at least 343 staff is in here checking out the forums. I hope to see great things out of them and I have way more hope and respect for 343 because of it.
> > I ment to quote but replied. Here is the video where the bloom had a big factor on the best strafer in Halo IMO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVYWT364VM. Very very good proof. The guy cant aim for his life yet he gets the kill.
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> Is that good enough for you?
I’m sorry, I don’t see a problem here.
That’s a pretty close range DMR fight, you’re supposed to spam.
His aim is terrible, there’s no denying that, but all of his shots landed inside his bloomed reticule and got him a kill before he could be killed.
You only see it from his point of view, but you don’t know the whole story from here.
The guy in the POV got the first shot in.
The guy in the POV had some awesome strafing.
The guy in the POV had a piece of his target inside the reticule for every shot he landed.
The other guy didn’t get the first shot in.
The other guy could of had worse aim, you don’t know.
The other guy could have fired faster and gotten a kill, and you would be here whining about a spammer killing a guy who misses a lot.
This video just isn’t Bloom causing random results.
This video proves to us that bloom is fine.
What can you tell me is random in this video and needs a TU?
Dude. If the wild shots did not exist, he would have missed. If there were no wild shots he would have missed because the other player was not in the direct middle of the screen. The shot could have gone to the left but it didnt. It was a complete flip of the coin. It is the truth. Deal with it. The other player didn’t miss but one shot so now you’re lying. The pov missed 3.
> > > We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
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> > Post ONE video, PLEASE. Just ONE.
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> Here. Pay attention. Yes sk misses the fifth shot but he is timing his shots landing 4 perfect hits. Sk takes and total of 5 shots. But the POV player can not aim, and is spaming and misses 3 shots. Taking a total of 8 shots. yet he gets him 1 shot and the only reason he gets the kill is because the wild shots of the DMR goes to the right of the fully bloomed redicle and nails him. SK missed because he was AIMING. If the POV player had not been spamming and actually timing his shots, he would have missed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVYWT364VM Hook, Line, and sinker! OMGWTFBBQ??? LOL WIN!
Do you have this from SK’s POV?
How do we know it wasn’t his horrible shooting that lost him this?
and that “wildshot” didn’t get the POV the win as much as the first shot did. SK was in his reticule and had lost that match when he didn’t shoot 5 times accurately in the time the other guy made 8 wild shots.
> > > > We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
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> > > Post ONE video, PLEASE. Just ONE.
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> > Here. Pay attention. Yes sk misses the fifth shot but he is timing his shots landing 4 perfect hits. Sk takes and total of 5 shots. But the POV player can not aim, and is spaming and misses 3 shots. Taking a total of 8 shots. yet he gets him 1 shot and the only reason he gets the kill is because the wild shots of the DMR goes to the right of the fully bloomed redicle and nails him. SK missed because he was AIMING. If the POV player had not been spamming and actually timing his shots, he would have missed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVYWT364VM Hook, Line, and sinker! OMGWTFBBQ??? LOL WIN!
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> Do you have this from SK’s POV?
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> How do we know it wasn’t his horrible shooting that lost him this?
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> and that “wildshot” didn’t get the POV the win as much as the first shot did. SK was in his reticule and had lost that match when he didn’t shoot 5 times accurately in the time the other guy made 8 wild shots.
Which is why the bloom needs to be fixed. The guy using the bloom the way Bungie intended should have won the fight. Not the guy who can’t aim and just presses the trigger. That is not what bungie intended. Everybody knows it. Now this discussion is over. It is truth no matter what you say. Bloom needs to be gone. Every shot needs to be completely straight. End of it.
> Dude. If the wild shots did not exist, he would have missed. If there were no wild shots he would have missed because the other player was not in the direct middle of the screen. The shot could have gone to the left but it didnt. It was a complete flip of the coin. It is the truth. Deal with it. The other player didn’t miss but one shot so now you’re lying. The pov missed 3.
c’mon, the POV had SK in the reticule at close range.
Firing was his job and he did it.
We don’t know what SK was doing but we do know he wasn’t firing fast enough based on their range. Otherwise those misses would have caused the POV to die.
No. He was making sure he could be as accurate as possible. You can tell by the time between the shots. Again. The POV would have missed had the bloom would have never been in this game.
No, if Bloom were not in this game the fight most likely would have continued with the POV still winning because SK is not firing fast enough at that range.
If you’re telling me he lost, because he was too busy trying to pace his shots and couldn’t be bothered to concentrate on killing, then you’re telling me SK isn’t skillful enough to win when he needs to.
He was down one shot in that fire fight.
POV missed twice.
That makes SK up by one shot and he still lost.
That’s not Bloom working against him, that’s his skill.
> I find myself losing to players who are way worse than me.
Perhaps you overestimate yourself.
> How on earth can a player who is bad at a game win from players who have more experience with the game and are more skilled? this shouldn’t even be possible.
The teams that win was the better team. Perhaps you misjudged them.
> If you are a very skilled player you’ve showed dedication to the game and you should be able to destroy people who are worse than you
If you were as superior as you claim to be, you would.
> In Halo : Reach bad players can win from players who are better than them
I think maybe the “players who are better than them” have too high an opinion of themselves.
> No, if Bloom were not in this game the fight most likely would have continued with the POV still winning because SK is not firing fast enough at that range.
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> If you’re telling me he lost, because he was too busy trying to pace his shots and couldn’t be bothered to concentrate on killing, then you’re telling me SK isn’t skillful enough to win when he needs to.
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> He was down one shot in that fire fight.
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> POV missed twice.
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> That makes SK up by one shot and he still lost.
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> That’s not Bloom working against him, that’s his skill.
BWAHAHAHA! He missed twice huh? How many shots did he shoot…8.
> > No, if Bloom were not in this game the fight most likely would have continued with the POV still winning because SK is not firing fast enough at that range.
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> > If you’re telling me he lost, because he was too busy trying to pace his shots and couldn’t be bothered to concentrate on killing, then you’re telling me SK isn’t skillful enough to win when he needs to.
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> > He was down one shot in that fire fight.
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> > POV missed twice.
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> > That makes SK up by one shot and he still lost.
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> > That’s not Bloom working against him, that’s his skill.
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> BWAHAHAHA! He missed twice huh? How many shots did he shoot…8.
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> 8-5=3
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> Lol it is very very simple math here.
well you only need 5 for a kill, how many did SK land in the same amount of time because he was too busy pacing at close range?
Oh, yeah, still waiting on that ViDoc, please and thank you.
> > Because they said it all the time in ViDoc
> > they put out before reach came out. Fact.
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> whoa, I musta missed that then!
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> Link pls?
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> And for ease of use, can you denote at what time in the ViDoc they said “Pace the DMR all the time”?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzeR9PDTbn0 And just for good measure, quote " If you’re spamming the trigger as fast as you can fire it it’s going to go kinda wild." Wild shots are a problem. That is what killed sk. Not the pov players accuracy.
> No, if Bloom were not in this game the fight most likely would have continued with the POV still winning because SK is not firing fast enough at that range.
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> If you’re telling me he lost, because he was too busy trying to pace his shots and couldn’t be bothered to concentrate on killing, then you’re telling me SK isn’t skillful enough to win when he needs to.
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> He was down one shot in that fire fight.
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> POV missed twice.
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> That makes SK up by one shot and he still lost.
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> That’s not Bloom working against him, that’s his skill.
I love how you sit there claiming that some of the best halo players in the world loss there respective duels against randoms because of there lack of skill, when it is clearly the broken bloom system screwing them over. Are you seriously that desperate to defend bloom?
> > The guy using the bloom the way Bungie intended should have won the fight.
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> AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAAAAAAAAAAA!
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> The crux of the issue.
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> as elusive as video proof of Bloom being random…
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> What proof do you have that Bungie intended the DMR to be paced ALL the time, irregardless of situation?
Because the bloomed out reticle is larger than the starting static reticle. Which in this case, improved the poor aimers chances because a piece of the giant bloomed reticle was touching the opponent. Innaccuracy actually IMPROVING your chances via bloom is an example of a mechanic not working properly.
Want to hear something that is really going to blow your mind? Bungie bloom designer, Josh Hamrick, admitted in the May Podcast that the bloom isn’t perfect and would try to perfect it if he had time. He didn’t have time. Not even Bungie thinks its working correctly and admitted as such.
Proof? Listen to the May Podcast found in the Podcast archive on B.net featuring Josh Hamrick.
> > No, if Bloom were not in this game the fight most likely would have continued with the POV still winning because SK is not firing fast enough at that range.
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> > If you’re telling me he lost, because he was too busy trying to pace his shots and couldn’t be bothered to concentrate on killing, then you’re telling me SK isn’t skillful enough to win when he needs to.
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> > He was down one shot in that fire fight.
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> > POV missed twice.
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> > That makes SK up by one shot and he still lost.
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> > That’s not Bloom working against him, that’s his skill.
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> I love how you sit there claiming that some of the best halo players in the world loss there respective duels against randoms because of there lack of skill, when it is clearly the broken bloom system screwing them over. Are you seriously that desperate to defend bloom?
And I love how you guys think the best players in the world are soooo infallible so when they lose to a random it’s not cause they got shot first or have bad aim and slow trigger fingers, but it MUST be because of a bad mechanic.