> You know, I’m going to take half the responsibility for taking this thread HORRIBLY off topic.
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> Which is about 30% responsibility than I deserve.
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> My point remains. There’s no proof that shows us a lesser skilled player has ever won because of bloom.
The lessor skilled player part is subjective. What about that player that should have lost to Snip3down in the video that showed how he should have got the kill on Zealot, yet didn’t because bloom denied him the last kill. He ended up missed the headshot around 3 times. He had the other player one shot for about two seconds. Snip3down is an MLG pro, ever heard of it?
Wouldn’t you consider the other player, not Snip3down, the lesser skilled one? I think I just check-mated you.
And at this point, Josh or Guywiired, I believe you are semi-trolling. You enjoy getting a rise out of people because they passionately despise bloom, yet for some perverted reason, you like and defend it.
> You know, I’m going to take half the responsibility for taking this thread HORRIBLY off topic.
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> Which is about 30% responsibility than I deserve.
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> My point remains. There’s no proof that shows us a lesser skilled player has ever won because of bloom.
You keep saying that, but then how do you explain all of those videos earlier? Obviously the outcome was completely lucky for those guys who spammed with their DMR and killed their enemy. Please, explain to us for once what you mean when you say there is NO proof that a lesser skilled player has ever won because of bloom.
halo 2, is the perfect example of this. The better player won almost every time. sometime there would be a good battle between 2 skilled players but noobs nearly beat the more killed player in halo 2, it was extremely rare. Each game after halo 2 got easier and easier. They made the new halo games like 3 and reach easy for the noobier players to get kills.
> You know, I’m going to take half the responsibility for taking this thread HORRIBLY off topic.
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> Which is about 30% more responsibility than I deserve.
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> My point remains. There’s no proof that shows us a lesser skilled player has ever won because of bloom.
Well, when you ignore proof of things, there is no proof of things.
Like, I’m ignoring your point about you being you. I choose not to believe it, therefor, its unproven.
> > You know, I’m going to take half the responsibility for taking this thread HORRIBLY off topic.
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> > Which is about 30% responsibility than I deserve.
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> > My point remains. There’s no proof that shows us a lesser skilled player has ever won because of bloom.
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> The lessor skilled player part is subjective. What about that player that should have lost to Snip3down in the video that showed how he should have got the kill on Zealot, yet didn’t because bloom denied him the last kill. He ended up missed the headshot around 3 times. He had the other player one shot for about two seconds. Snip3down is an MLG pro, ever heard of it?
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> Wouldn’t you consider the other player, not Snip3down, the lesser skilled one? I think I just check-mated you.
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> And at this point, Josh or Guywiired, I believe you are semi-trolling. You enjoy getting a rise out of people because they passionately despise bloom, yet for some perverted reason, you like and defend it.
I’m not Josh, sorry to disappoint.
Snip3 might be the better over all player, but pro’s have bad days and bad plays all the time.
In those clips, if the target had filled 100% of his reticule, he would have a kill. As it was, his enemy got the kill, which tells us that Snip3 wasn’t as ready for him as the other guy was for Snip3.
The other guy controlled his rate of fire better.
The other guy controlled his aim better.
> Wouldn’t you consider the other player, not Snip3down, the lesser skilled one? I think I just check-mated you.
Let me repeat a repeated post. It is only because of bloom that SD ever had a chance to win. Both players made mistakes. Not repeating the situation would turn out much better.
Using sprint+ melee+headshot could have worked out better for Red.
Grenade+headshot could have worked out better for Red.
Call out and teamshoot when at least 1 other player is on cue would have worked out better for Red.
Staying back and shooting while using the wall as cover could have worked out better for Red.
And I am aware Red won in the first place.
Mistakes made (arm chair quarterbacking here):
Blue being on the low-ground, no where near cover is in a bad position.
Red, having the advantage of surprise and near cover is in a good position. However, Red never capitalised on this. They moved into a more exposed position and didn’t double tap 3 times.
> > touche’
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> See? That wasn’t so hard! I could say to you that you haven’t played Reach because there is no proof that it is you, so you have to post a video of you playing with official identifaction visible that can also link you to be the owner of this account. Now I don’t want you to do that because that would be weird. It is pretty obvious that you have, there is no need for a video; just as we can concur that there is a correlation between the uproar against bloom, the facts that I have detailed and a problem with the system itself that CAN be amended through a TU.
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> Touche’ should have been your response to all of my posts!
The level of disparity between these two completely different things though is crazy.
Who I am, has no bearing on the bloom mechanic, though I understand his point about not wanting to believe reality.
In the end, regardless of who I am (or am not) if someone were truely interested, they could find me out, because you have to agree, I’m someone right? I’m not just electrons on the internet randomly organizing to annoy you… (or am I?)
It’s something that can at some time be proven.
But were discussion Bloom, not who I am, and since we’re here to discuss bloom, and it’s easy to prove, then WHY all the dodging when you’re asked to prove it?
Just post a video. That’s all.
One video proving it happens where it’s not obvious the pro was just having a bad play?
> You know, I’m going to take half the responsibility for taking this thread HORRIBLY off topic.
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> Which is about 30% more responsibility than I deserve.
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> My point remains. There’s no proof that shows us a lesser skilled player has ever won because of bloom.
how is it off topic? The title is “The skilled player should kill less skilled player”
Discussing how the faults of bloom helps lesser skilled players get kills is perfectly on topic.
Oh but everything IS the result of a bunch of chemical bonds that randomly cause moving electrons (that they themselves are random in position) to create a seemingly specific order of events. From our very thoughts to and through these digital devices and back into other’s brains that convert those electrons into stable chemical bonds. Oh what a majestic process it is.
> I choose to believe 2+2=5. Prove it isn’t.
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> Now be careful, because no matter what you prove, I’m going to choose not to believe it, and ask for proof.
That’s how it feels for me when I prove it equals 4 (especially that 1 video that showed a player die with 11 rounds in the DMR). A moment of parallax.
> how is it off topic? The title is “The skilled player should kill less skilled player”
> Discussing how the faults of bloom helps lesser skilled players get kills is perfectly on topic.
ehh, you’re a little late to the party, before I posted that, the thread had degraded into “who is Guywi(i)red” and “what is his REAL name/acct info?”
> > how is it off topic? The title is “The skilled player should kill less skilled player”
> > Discussing how the faults of bloom helps lesser skilled players get kills is perfectly on topic.
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> ehh, you’re a little late to the party, before I posted that, the thread had degraded into “who is Guywi(i)red” and “what is his REAL name/acct info?”
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> Really off-topic stuff.
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> Thanks again Veronica for mod’n this.
Nobody asked for your real name. If you’re talking about chernobyled’s post asking you to prove that it’s your GT, he was trying to make a point, which you’re still not getting.
It’s poor point. We have to use our MS-passport emails to log into Waypoint. If you use a your GT’s email, your GT is automatically linked to it.
At the very least, the account in question is easily verifiable to be the same one with the same spelling (ctrl-c the names and post in STATS or B.NET).
Like really, how do you know it’s me posting? Is the cat dead or alive inside the box that we cannot see? As intelligent beings, we understand some paradoxes simply don’t exist, though they can be self-proving to exist because we can imagine them as so.
We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
> > > how is it off topic? The title is “The skilled player should kill less skilled player”
> > > Discussing how the faults of bloom helps lesser skilled players get kills is perfectly on topic.
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> > ehh, you’re a little late to the party, before I posted that, the thread had degraded into “who is Guywi(i)red” and “what is his REAL name/acct info?”
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> > Really off-topic stuff.
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> > Thanks again Veronica for mod’n this.
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> Nobody asked for your real name. If you’re talking about chernobyled’s post asking you to prove that it’s your GT, he was trying to make a point, which you’re still not getting.
His point is off-topic, it’s not about Bloom, Skill, or Halo.
HE is not getting anymore attention from me on that.
Asking for proof that bloom really exists is not the same as asking someone on the internet if they really exists. And if it is something that is THAT provable, then why the need to change the subject? Or avoid proving it? Just do it already.
Lets not derail this any further.
Lets discuss bloom. Or skill. What this thread is about.
> We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
> > We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
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> Post ONE video, PLEASE. Just ONE.
Look through the thread, plenty exist.
Edit: What in the world where did my other post just go?
> > We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
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> Post ONE video, PLEASE. Just ONE.
> I ment to quote but replied. Here is the video where the bloom had a big factor on the best strafer in Halo IMO. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVYWT364VM. Very very good proof. The guy cant aim for his life yet he gets the kill.
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> > We have posted plenty of videos on this thread showing the faults of the DMR spam winning fights. Anybody who says we are lying is just trolling at this point. All I get out of it is these people were bad at h2 and h3 and now reach has been noobified and they think it should stay because they can actually get kills now.
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> Post ONE video, PLEASE. Just ONE.
Here. Pay attention. Yes sk misses the fifth shot but he is timing his shots landing 4 perfect hits. Sk takes and total of 5 shots. But the POV player can not aim, and is spaming and misses 3 shots. Taking a total of 8 shots. yet he gets him 1 shot and the only reason he gets the kill is because the wild shots of the DMR goes to the right of the fully bloomed redicle and nails him. SK missed because he was AIMING. If the POV player had not been spamming and actually timing his shots, he would have missed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qRVYWT364VM Hook, Line, and sinker! OMGWTFBBQ??? LOL WIN!
