A lot of people are posting the same threads that either bash Halo 4 or praise it. There is one thing that really needs to stop. The following is not a valid argument or defense and I see it popping up way too often:
“Oh excuse me, have you played the game?!” “You cantz possibly knowz dat until yous play it!!!1”
I really don’t need to test the game to tell you that the following additions are bad:
- Joining games in-progress
- Having sprint + another AA
- Pressing B to crouch
- A Team Slayer game not scoring 1-50
- Headshots and Sprees popping up in the middle of your reticle
- Mods that alter gameplay
I will agree that a lot of stuff people are really upset about can’t be judged without playing the game. There are, however, a lot of things that can be critiqued without having played the game, especially if it is “Halo at its core.”
I’m starting to like these changes the more I think about them. They might attract new people and help disperse this terrible “fanbase”.
You sound like you just want to play older Halo games. You can still play them, and they will still be good.
You can’t seriously expect every Halo game to be as conservative as Halo 3 was, can you? Every other Halo game had significant changes.
> You sound like you just want to play older Halo games. You can still play them, and they will still be good.
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> You can’t seriously expect every Halo game to be as conservative as Halo 3 was, can you? Every other Halo game had significant changes.
DON’T you get IT… Reach was so bad… why do we have to base the game of broken machanics
Although I agree with everything you say, is it not true that this post bashes H4? you are pointing out faults.
BTW where did it ever say B to crouch? because that already pisses me off o.o
> A lot of people are posting the same threads that either bash Halo 4 or praise it. There is one thing that really needs to stop. The following is not a valid argument or defense and I see it popping up way too often:
>
> “Oh excuse me, have you played the game?!” “You cantz possibly knowz dat until yous play it!!!1”
>
> I really don’t need to test the game to tell you that the following additions are bad:
>
> 1. Joining games in-progress
> 2. Having sprint + another AA
> 3. Pressing B to crouch
> 4. A Team Slayer game not scoring 1-50
> 5. Headshots and Sprees popping up in the middle of your reticle
> 6. Mods that alter gameplay
>
> I will agree that a lot of stuff people are really upset about can’t be judged without playing the game. There are, however, a lot of things that can be critiqued without having played the game, especially if it is “Halo at its core.”
- That’s not proven to affect all playlists.
- What’s wrong with that?
- That depends on one’s controller layout. There are tons apparently.
- Not proven.
- Changed already.
- What? Where? There aren’t any.
> I’m starting to like these changes the more I think about them. They might attract new people and help disperse this terrible “fanbase”.
Yup. The fanbase. The people that actually know what Halo is.
If that happens, Halo’s going to devolve into a casual game that has no competition whatsoever. You don’t even know what you’re talking about when you hope for the disperse of the “fanbase”.
> You sound like you just want to play older Halo games. You can still play them, and they will still be good.
>
> You can’t seriously expect every Halo game to be as conservative as Halo 3 was, can you? Every other Halo game had significant changes.
Its not our fault bungie couldnt implement features that werent broken and new at the same time.
All vets/competitive people want are new things that follow these rules
not random
skillful
same starts
and just a couple other criteria, not too much to ask for.
I can and will use that argument, because it is and until Nov 6th will continue to be.
Someone is going to whine and cry about bloom being as bad as Reach?
Have they played Halo 4? Nope.
Same person decides to whine about AA’s being bad?
Have they played Halo 4? Nope.
This is a valid argument because it is factual and truthful. If people don’t like it well then maybe they should post more constructive threads in the forums and not clutter it up with garbage such as “OMFG THIS GAME LOOKS LIKE CRAP” “343 ARE JERKS BECAUSE…” AA’S ARE BAK N0000000000"
> > A lot of people are posting the same threads that either bash Halo 4 or praise it. There is one thing that really needs to stop. The following is not a valid argument or defense and I see it popping up way too often:
> >
> > “Oh excuse me, have you played the game?!” “You cantz possibly knowz dat until yous play it!!!1”
> >
> > I really don’t need to test the game to tell you that the following additions are bad:
> >
> > 1. Joining games in-progress
> > 2. Having sprint + another AA
> > 3. Pressing B to crouch
> > 4. A Team Slayer game not scoring 1-50
> > 5. Headshots and Sprees popping up in the middle of your reticle
> > 6. Mods that alter gameplay
> >
> > I will agree that a lot of stuff people are really upset about can’t be judged without playing the game. There are, however, a lot of things that can be critiqued without having played the game, especially if it is “Halo at its core.”
>
> 1. That’s not proven to affect all playlists.
> 2. What’s wrong with that?
> 3. That depends on one’s controller layout. There are tons apparently.
> 4. Not proven.
> 5. Changed already.
> 6. What? Where? There aren’t any.
1:Im pretty sure he means itl be bad for ranked playlists, which would be a terrible feature for them
2: Sprint in reach broke it (they said it was fixed though) along with something else terrible like camo off spawn or jetpack.
3: Maybe.
4: Theyve already officially stated there is a gametype that isnt 1-50 ts.
5: Good.
6: He means armor permutations that affect gameplay.
> > You sound like you just want to play older Halo games. You can still play them, and they will still be good.
> >
> > You can’t seriously expect every Halo game to be as conservative as Halo 3 was, can you? Every other Halo game had significant changes.
>
> DON’T you get IT… Reach was so bad… why do we have to base the game of broken machanics
Reach was not bad, and the numbers prove it.
Before you start saying “Halo 3 had way more players than Reach because Reach is terrible,” read what I have to say.
The reason it seems like Halo 3 had far more players than Reach is because of the counter.
The Halo 3 counter counts everyone who played that day, while the Reach counter only counts those who are online at that time.
If five people play Halo 3 from 1:00 PM to 2:00 PM, and you look at the counter at 3:00 PM, it will say five people online.
However, if you had the same circumstances with Reach, it will say 0 people online.
Of course, more than five people play these games at a time, but this is just an example.
Reach has a population around that of Halo 3. It just seems smaller because gaming has gotten bigger, and most of the growth has been in the Call of Duty franchise.
Reach did fail to attract hordes of new players to the franchise, but the game itself was not a fail. It’s still a huge game, and many people love it. It didn’t give enough support to competitive players, but there still is much more competition than most other games give. Also, Reach was the best Halo for forge and custom games.
> > I’m starting to like these changes the more I think about them. They might attract new people and help disperse this terrible “fanbase”.
>
> Yup. The fanbase. The people that actually know what Halo is.
>
> If that happens, Halo’s going to devolve into a casual game that has no competition whatsoever. You don’t even know what you’re talking about when you hope for the disperse of the “fanbase”.
Yeah I do. I think that 343 should try to make Halo appeal to a wider range of people, something that would significantly benefit the franchise. Halo is not going to “devolve” into a casual game, and it’s not going to turn into this insanely competitive game some people think it should be. Halo is going to continue being the way it is, “competitive” players will still be getting their “classic” and MLG playlists and such, and Halo will expand down new roads.
atleast recon will actually make me more stealthy now. WAIT if armor has special abilities… what are they going to do for pre order bonus content!!!
> > > A lot of people are posting the same threads that either bash Halo 4 or praise it. There is one thing that really needs to stop. The following is not a valid argument or defense and I see it popping up way too often:
> > >
> > > “Oh excuse me, have you played the game?!” “You cantz possibly knowz dat until yous play it!!!1”
> > >
> > > I really don’t need to test the game to tell you that the following additions are bad:
> > >
> > > 1. Joining games in-progress
> > > 2. Having sprint + another AA
> > > 3. Pressing B to crouch
> > > 4. A Team Slayer game not scoring 1-50
> > > 5. Headshots and Sprees popping up in the middle of your reticle
> > > 6. Mods that alter gameplay
> > >
> > > I will agree that a lot of stuff people are really upset about can’t be judged without playing the game. There are, however, a lot of things that can be critiqued without having played the game, especially if it is “Halo at its core.”
> >
> > 1. That’s not proven to affect all playlists.
> > 2. What’s wrong with that?
> > 3. That depends on one’s controller layout. There are tons apparently.
> > 4. Not proven.
> > 5. Changed already.
> > 6. What? Where? There aren’t any.
>
> 1:Im pretty sure he means itl be bad for ranked playlists, which would be a terrible feature for them
>
> 2: Sprint in reach broke it (they said it was fixed though) along with something else terrible like camo off spawn or jetpack.
>
> 3: Maybe.
>
> 4: Theyve already officially stated there is a gametype that isnt 1-50 ts.
>
> 5: Good.
>
> 6: He means armor permutations that affect gameplay.
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He stated it as if this feature affects all gametypes.
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Like you said, it’s been fixed. If everyone has sprint, I see no problem.
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Definitely.
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A gametype that isn’t 1-50? Okay. What about the gametype that IS 1-50?
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Indeed.
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There aren’t any. Please provide proof of armor permutations affecting gameplay.
> > > You sound like you just want to play older Halo games. You can still play them, and they will still be good.
> > >
> > > You can’t seriously expect every Halo game to be as conservative as Halo 3 was, can you? Every other Halo game had significant changes.
> >
> > DON’T you get IT… Reach was so bad… why do we have to base the game of broken machanics
>
> Reach was not bad, and the numbers prove it.
>
> Before you start saying “Halo 3 had way more players than Reach because Reach is terrible,” read what I have to say.
>
> The reason it seems like Halo 3 had far more players than Reach is because of the counter.
> The Halo 3 counter counts everyone who played that day, while the Reach counter only counts those who are online at that time.
>
> If five people play Halo 3 from 1:00 PM to 2:00 PM, and you look at the counter at 3:00 PM, it will say five people online.
>
> However, if you had the same circumstances with Reach, it will say 0 people online.
>
> Of course, more than five people play these games at a time, but this is just an example.
>
> Reach has a population around that of Halo 3. It just seems smaller because gaming has gotten bigger, and most of the growth has been in the Call of Duty franchise.
>
> Reach did fail to attract hordes of new players to the franchise, but the game itself was not a fail. It’s still a huge game, and many people love it. It didn’t give enough support to competitive players, but there still is much more competition than most other games give. Also, Reach was the best Halo for forge and custom games.
That’s why Halo 3 had the population Reach has right now, except a week before Reach came out?
That’s why Halo 3 Bungie Day (Bungie vs. World) pulled in 300k players at a given moment when Reach Bungie Day (Bungie vs. World) struggled to pull 100k?
Will someone explain to me the reason AA are such a bad thing? Are we talking aim acceleration or armor abilities?
> > > > A lot of people are posting the same threads that either bash Halo 4 or praise it. There is one thing that really needs to stop. The following is not a valid argument or defense and I see it popping up way too often:
> > > >
> > > > “Oh excuse me, have you played the game?!” “You cantz possibly knowz dat until yous play it!!!1”
> > > >
> > > > I really don’t need to test the game to tell you that the following additions are bad:
> > > >
> > > > 1. Joining games in-progress
> > > > 2. Having sprint + another AA
> > > > 3. Pressing B to crouch
> > > > 4. A Team Slayer game not scoring 1-50
> > > > 5. Headshots and Sprees popping up in the middle of your reticle
> > > > 6. Mods that alter gameplay
> > > >
> > > > I will agree that a lot of stuff people are really upset about can’t be judged without playing the game. There are, however, a lot of things that can be critiqued without having played the game, especially if it is “Halo at its core.”
> > >
> > > 1. That’s not proven to affect all playlists.
> > > 2. What’s wrong with that?
> > > 3. That depends on one’s controller layout. There are tons apparently.
> > > 4. Not proven.
> > > 5. Changed already.
> > > 6. What? Where? There aren’t any.
> >
> > 1:Im pretty sure he means itl be bad for ranked playlists, which would be a terrible feature for them
> >
> > 2: Sprint in reach broke it (they said it was fixed though) along with something else terrible like camo off spawn or jetpack.
> >
> > 3: Maybe.
> >
> > 4: Theyve already officially stated there is a gametype that isnt 1-50 ts.
> >
> > 5: Good.
> >
> > 6: He means armor permutations that affect gameplay.
>
> 1. He stated it as if this feature affects all gametypes.
>
> 2. Like you said, it’s been fixed. If everyone has sprint, I see no problem.
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> 3. Definitely.
>
> 4. A gametype that isn’t 1-50? Okay. What about the gametype that IS 1-50?
>
> 5. Indeed.
>
> 6. There aren’t any. Please provide proof of armor permutations affecting gameplay.
1: K
2: Bungie also said AL was balanced, so much for that. Even is sprint does work, people can still spawn with camo and jetpack, which are jokes.
3: K
4: Not sure, they said little other than there is the option.
5: K
6: its been confirmed, go look.
> 1: K
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> 2: Bungie also said AL was balanced, so much for that. Even is sprint does work, people can still spawn with camo and jetpack, which are jokes.
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> 3: K
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> 4: Not sure, they said little other than there is the option.
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> 5: K
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> 6: its been confirmed, go look.
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This isn’t Bungie, it’s 343i. And that’s your opinion.
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OK. Well, there you go. Little to no information on the subject; not viable for complaint.
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No it hasn’t. I don’t need to look.
> Will someone explain to me the reason AA are such a bad thing? Are we talking aim acceleration or armor abilities?
Armor abilities
> > 1: K
> >
> > 2: Bungie also said AL was balanced, so much for that. Even is sprint does work, people can still spawn with camo and jetpack, which are jokes.
> >
> > 3: K
> >
> > 4: Not sure, they said little other than there is the option.
> >
> > 5: K
> >
> > 6: its been confirmed, go look.
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> 2. This isn’t Bungie, it’s 343i. And that’s your opinion.
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> 4. OK. Well, there you go. Little to no information on the subject; not viable for complaint.
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> 6. No it hasn’t. I don’t need to look.
2: Guess so, it must be my fault for liking map control and for entire games to not be spent crouching around invisible
6: Yes it has, do a little research, k?