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> > > > What Iāve benn wondering, does anyone actually concider not buying H:I if weāre stuck with sprint?
> > > > Iām at a point where Iām really not willing to put up with it anymore and if H:I follows H5 path, it will be the first Halo will will not buy on/before release date. Iāll probably do fast play through through SP using some game pass trail membership at some point (or getting it used) but Iām getting sick of beeing treated like a seccond class fan just because 343 know people like me wonāt abendond the franchise just that easy, after all, Iām through almost as many years of Halo games I donāt enjoy compared to those I do and I still consider myself a huge fan stillā¦
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> > > Youāre not alone, I wonāt be buying it either if it has sprint or any other spartan abilities. Iām also getting pretty pissed off about being treated as a second class fan as well.
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> > Absolutely not. I wonāt buy Halo Infinite if weāre stuck without sprint. Pretty sure most of the other fans of Halo 5 wouldnāt appreciate one boring and repetitive BMS either and many either wouldnāt buy Halo Infinite. One things for certain- most of us definitely wonāt stick around long without sprint so the population would decline very rapidly with one boring BMS. Stripping away our option to sprint in Halo is completely unacceptable would be a total slap in our faces by 343i.
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> Would you even buy H:I it if it had sprint?
> Seeing how very, very little you did play Halo 5, or any other Halo game at all, you donāt really strike me as a halo player quite that muchā¦
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> or is this a alternate troll account?
Heās most likely a troll, all he does is spew out the same thing over and over again about how Halo Infinite needs to have sprint and seems to refuse to respond to any counter arguments like mine and tsassiās.
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> I hope you can appreciate the irony of calling someone elseās post ironic, criticizing their claim for being unsupported by evidence, and then representing your own claim without any evidence to support it either.
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> > @tsassi: Would you be opposed to being able to shoot while sprinting with certain guns, like SMGs and pistols?
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> I donāt want any limitations to my ability to perform actions when moving at maximum speed, whatsoever. That should answer your question.
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> But would you like to answer my question now? If not, why? I think this was the third time I asked it in this thread, and it almost starts to seem like youāre trying to avoid it.
With all due respect Iām trying to not argue with a moderator over an opinionated issue that you (clearly) staunchly disagree with. Also the specific question youāre asking has already been discussed (at length) so Iām only trying to add new things of value to the discussion. I have respectfully responded line-by-line with plenty of anti-sprinters already, where Iāve thoroughly explained and defended my pro sprint perspective. And yes, I do understand the irony but Iām merely just countering their argument with the exact same logic they tried to apply first (So to be fair and impartial in this case; shouldnāt you also take issue with their anti sprint point as well?)
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> > > @tsassi: Would you be opposed to being able to shoot while sprinting with certain guns, like SMGs and pistols?
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> > I donāt want any limitations to my ability to perform actions when moving at maximum speed, whatsoever. That should answer your question.
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> > But would you like to answer my question now? If not, why? I think this was the third time I asked it in this thread, and it almost starts to seem like youāre trying to avoid it.
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> With all due respect Iām trying to not argue with a moderator over an opinionated issue that you (clearly) staunchly disagree with. Also the specific question youāre asking has already been discussed (at length) so Iām only trying to add new things of value to the discussion. I have respectfully responded line-by-line with plenty of anti-sprinters already, where Iāve thoroughly explained and defended my pro sprint perspective.
You had no problem asking him a question on the topic. You never answered me when I asked you this question and Iām obviously not a moderator, not to mention that Tsassi wouldnāt abuse that position.
If youāve already answered this question before: quote it, copy/paste it, or direct us to where you did so.
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> > > > @tsassi: Would you be opposed to being able to shoot while sprinting with certain guns, like SMGs and pistols?
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> > > I donāt want any limitations to my ability to perform actions when moving at maximum speed, whatsoever. That should answer your question.
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> > > But would you like to answer my question now? If not, why? I think this was the third time I asked it in this thread, and it almost starts to seem like youāre trying to avoid it.
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> > With all due respect Iām trying to not argue with a moderator over an opinionated issue that you (clearly) staunchly disagree with. Also the specific question youāre asking has already been discussed (at length) so Iām only trying to add new things of value to the discussion. I have respectfully responded line-by-line with plenty of anti-sprinters already, where Iāve thoroughly explained and defended my pro sprint perspective.
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> You had no problem asking him a question on the topic. You never answered me when I asked you this question and Iām obviously not a moderator, not to mention that Tsassi wouldnāt abuse that position.
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> If youāve already answered this question before: quote it, copy/paste it, or direct us to where you did so.
Iām not suggesting the moderator will abuse anything. Itās out of respect and prudence to be use caution when approaching a moderator; especially over an opinionated discussion where there is zero doubt that the moderator completely disagrees with your opinion. The negative effects of having just one BMS have been discussed at length just a few pages back here so thereās no reason for me to continue to circle around and round on this with you. Also if Iāve replied to you and FightingChances at length and am still waiting for you guys to reply to multiple points of mine but Iām not demanding that you do so either. Why should anyone be expected to respond to every single point anyway? Thatās an unrealistic expectation to hold against someone in an online forum.
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> > > > Of course this post is going to have very diverse opinions. Most of the people who still frequent the forums of Halo Waypoint actually like the new Halo games. All 5000 of them. Its very misleading considering there are tens of millions of Halo fans who left because Halo turned into a blend of every other console shooter in the last 5 years.
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> > > How ironic. Clearly the ones who want revert back to the older, outdated movement system are the outspoken minority who come take to forums to gripe about not wanting sprint. Your skewed notion that āTens of millions of Halo fans,ā somehow left because of movement mechanics is ridiculous and there will always zero evidence to support such a claim because itās false. Sprint has actually pulled more fans into the franchise because people like the option to walk or run in Halo, versus being stuck with one boring and repetitive BMS such as with the MCC. And thankfully more and more true fans are flooding to these forums to debunk those false claims that sprint is somehow bad for gameplay. Sprint is exactly what Halo Infinite needs to be the successful, next-level title that it needs to be.
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> > I hope you can appreciate the irony of calling someone elseās post ironic, criticizing their claim for being unsupported by evidence, and then representing your own claim without any evidence to support it either.
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> > I donāt want any limitations to my ability to perform actions when moving at maximum speed, whatsoever. That should answer your question.
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> > But would you like to answer my question now? If not, why? I think this was the third time I asked it in this thread, and it almost starts to seem like youāre trying to avoid it.
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> With all due respect Iām trying to not argue with a moderator over an opinionated issue that you (clearly) staunchly disagree with. Also the specific question youāre asking has already been discussed (at length) so Iām only trying to add new things of value to the discussion.
Nope, youāve never addressed that specific question. I went through all your posts in this thread, all I found was an instance of another user posing a similar question, and you avoiding giving a proper answer. You mustāve called having a single base movement speed āboring and repetitiveā or some variation of at least ten times in this thread, but not once have you properly addressed what makes sprint so exciting that canāt be done with a fast base movement speed.
A general observation from this thread is that your position seems to be of lamenting how āboring and repetitiveā not having sprint is at every chance you get, complaining how the pro-sprint side has made many valid points which the opponents are ignoring, and making making unspported claims about how many fans like sprint, and how many fans would quit without it. Yet you donāt tell what are the valid points the pro-sprint side has made, you criticize others for making unsupported claims. You stir the pot by constantly saying things that obviously will get a response from opponents of sprint (like constantly cramming the phrase āone boring and repetitive BMSā to posts when it doesnāt contribute any substance to them), but then say you donāt like to argue.
I think you should re-evaluate your position in this thread, and open yourself up for a less one-sided discussion, if you want to contribute something of value to this thread. Unintentional as it might be, as of right now your position seems to be one of hypocrisy and baiting, rather than earnest, open discussion.
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> > > > @tsassi: Would you be opposed to being able to shoot while sprinting with certain guns, like SMGs and pistols?
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> > > I donāt want any limitations to my ability to perform actions when moving at maximum speed, whatsoever. That should answer your question.
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> > > But would you like to answer my question now? If not, why? I think this was the third time I asked it in this thread, and it almost starts to seem like youāre trying to avoid it.
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> > With all due respect Iām trying to not argue with a moderator over an opinionated issue that you (clearly) staunchly disagree with. Also the specific question youāre asking has already been discussed (at length) so Iām only trying to add new things of value to the discussion. I have respectfully responded line-by-line with plenty of anti-sprinters already, where Iāve thoroughly explained and defended my pro sprint perspective. And yes, I do understand the irony but Iām merely just countering their argument with the exact same logic they tried to apply first (So to be fair and impartial in this case; shouldnāt you also take issue with their anti sprint point as well?)
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> You know, Iām still waiting for your response for what you would like to add to this discussion. I asked two days ago, and asked again yesterday after you dodged it, but no answer. I gave my answer on that, so whatās your response in return?
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> EDIT: If youāre unwilling to properly respond, or answer any previous questions, I think itās best for everyone involved, including those who are reading this thread, if you stop further replies to other users and stop posing your own questions to them.
Which was your question?
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> > > > How ironic. Clearly the ones who want revert back to the older, outdated movement system are the outspoken minority who come take to forums to gripe about not wanting sprint. Your skewed notion that āTens of millions of Halo fans,ā somehow left because of movement mechanics is ridiculous and there will always zero evidence to support such a claim because itās false. Sprint has actually pulled more fans into the franchise because people like the option to walk or run in Halo, versus being stuck with one boring and repetitive BMS such as with the MCC. And thankfully more and more true fans are flooding to these forums to debunk those false claims that sprint is somehow bad for gameplay. Sprint is exactly what Halo Infinite needs to be the successful, next-level title that it needs to be.
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> > > I donāt want any limitations to my ability to perform actions when moving at maximum speed, whatsoever. That should answer your question.
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> > > But would you like to answer my question now? If not, why? I think this was the third time I asked it in this thread, and it almost starts to seem like youāre trying to avoid it.
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> > With all due respect Iām trying to not argue with a moderator over an opinionated issue that you (clearly) staunchly disagree with. Also the specific question youāre asking has already been discussed (at length) so Iām only trying to add new things of value to the discussion.
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> I think you should re-evaluate your position in this thread, and open yourself up for a less one-sided discussion, if you want to contribute something of value to this thread. Unintentional as it might be, as of right now your position seems to be one of hypocrisy and baiting, rather than earnest, open discussion.
Iāve filled up the character limit with respectful, complete, and earnestly open-minded responses to anti sprinters multiple times. Iām completely open to a two-sided discussion but you have to understand where pro sprinters are coming from. Weāve suffered through three AAA Halo titles with just one BMS and we were set free from those chains once Bungie finally added in sprint to Halo. Sprint is something we truly enjoy in halo and Iāve offered up several in-depth points to support keeping sprint in Halo (Along with multiple, full line-by-line replies to A6ENT C, FightingChances, and others in this thread). On the other hand Iāve met other types of short sighted replies with the exact same anti sprint logic theyāre using but Iām somehow being singled out? Again (and with all due respect) it seems really unfair and bias to target someone who responds to others with the exact same line of reasoning but avoiding to take any issue with the āflawed logic,ā which started it.
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> I think the first part of this statement is biased based on the second part. There are plenty of older Halo fans that like the new mechanics. (1. + 2.)
- Thatās purely speculation.
- Errrr ā¦ NO. I don`t like them.
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> I canāt properly reply to your other post for some reason. The quote system got messed up.
You try to claim youāve responded to āevery single point,ā that Iāve posted but yet just a few pages ago you literally just dodged an entire issue (full 7500 character) reply of mine with this.
Of course at this point itās becoming harder to tell if itās you or A6ENT C, as youāre both responding the exactly same way to the same postsā¦ o O
All I did was respectfully offer you counters as to why sprint is better for Halo and should absolutely be in Infinite.
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> 1. Thatās purely speculation.
> 2. Errrr ā¦ NO. I don`t like them.
That Infinite will definitely have classic gameplay was speculation. Pointing that out isnāt speculation.
That you donāt like the new mechanics doesnāt mean there arenāt older Halo fans who do.
There are valid arguments to level against these mechanics and constructive ways to communicate your preference, but this neither of those things.
Please for the love of God let it be a classic Halo. Or at practice a portion the of the game is a classic Halo experience. Thatās really all I will ever truly want.
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I agree. Classic Halo needs to return.
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We all doubted that new gameplay mechanics would be abruptly added to a long standing formula, but here we are and Halo as a franchise has never been in a worse spot than it is today. If they donāt revert the Spartan Abilities this one is again a hard pass for me and I know that would also be the case for anyone I know that plays Halo. Iām no exaggerating, any person real or online that I knew to play Halo does not anymore. They share my opinions as well, the new halo games suck.
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> > You try to claim youāve responded to āevery single point,ā that Iāve posted but yet just a few pages ago you literally just dodged an entire issue (full 7500 character) reply of mine with this.
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> > Of course at this point itās becoming harder to tell if itās you or A6ENT C, as youāre both responding the exactly same way to the same postsā¦ o O
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> Read it again. Youāre dodging my responses. Thereās a full response for every point there, and the link below proves that. What I was referring to was the quote system. There were too many quotes that quoting your post made every word disappear, but still count in the character counter. tsassi can check if Agent and I the same person or not. Iāve been through that once before. https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/forums/29568daf8cd14083bd1b70a810bf3581/topics/the-return-of-classic-movement-mechanics/dbb9e311-d2f8-48b5-9826-259bffe75cac/posts?page=23#post455EDIT: I saw your edit, and I have been respectful to you as well. I may be more pushy, but youāre the one projecting that I have an opinion on this matter, and placing your own opinion as fact. I do, but thatās irrelevant to observations that can be seen by everyone if theyāre looking for it.
I wasnāt suggesting that you two are the same person I was saying that you two are responding the same way to the same exact postsā¦ That just makes it harder for me to know which person Iāve already responded to. Sorry for any confusion and sorry for any perceived ādodgingā. 
Iāll review the posts later (when I have time) and properly respond to you on anything I may have missed. This thread is also very convoluted at this point (understandably so with the generalized title) and it is moving so quickly. Thanks for your respectful respectfully responses on an issue you disagree with me over and thank you for your patience.
chalk me down as a no sprinter.
i used sprint in reach and it was op most op thing in the game i dont care what anybody says about armor lock. I like the old halo where you didnt have sprint or evade to bail you out of a strategical mistake
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