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> I’m gonna day this again doom2016 movement would have solved all this no one could possibly argue in favor of sprint
dooms movement is too floaty but whatever floats your boat and its even faster than sprint in H5…I’m guessing you guys want the speed of doom while being able to shoot at the same time which to me would make an unbalanced halo game given how the sandbox is
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> Thats fine. I am happy that you enjoy the newer Halo games, as I do myself. I do actually enjoy sprint, I find it meshes better with my idea of what Spartans are capable of.
>
> However, seeing your responses to this thread, I do think you need to tone down the name calling and general unreceptiveness in your posts. Everyone is on the forums because they enjoy Halo, and while obviously some get a little more passionate than others, calling other fans “babies” is not conducive to productive discussion.
Thank you for the empathy. It’s not always easy, but we need more of it.
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> In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5 and have your friends join so again whats the problem again?
But you do join a thread complaining about sprint to tell people to not complain about sprint.
The simple fix is to not join the thread, is it not? Every time you comment, you’re making the conscious choice that you want to be here.
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> In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5 and have your friends join so again whats the problem again?
General design issues with how weapons handle, vehicles handle, maps are designed. Ya know, the sort of thing people have been telling you for the last four or five pages.
Maybe if you were vocal about the issue and raised attention to 343 that it was an issue, particularly hit reg, then they’d do something about it. Being silent and not saying anything at all does not inform 343 that they have an issue.
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> > > 2535407747275549;4375:
> > > I’m gonna day this again doom2016 movement would have solved all this no one could possibly argue in favor of sprint
> >
> > dooms movement is too floaty but whatever floats your boat and its even faster than sprint in H5…I’m guessing you guys want the speed of doom while being able to shoot at the same time which to me would make an unbalanced halo game given how the sandbox is
JANN LEE48504 this was literally never an issue back in Halo 1, Halo 2 or Halo 3. What’s changed in the sandbox that has necessitated the inability to shoot and move at maximum speed at the same time?
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> Ah, it’s an MCC achievement, that’s why I didn’t find it. If I were to hazard a guess… A while. That level is designed for vehicles, not having them at all is a problem. Especially with the amount of enemy vehicles that get thrown at the player.
only halo CE remaster version was more the only halo there add that type off achievement and that was on delta halo.
before MCC got it for all the halo’s more there.
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> > 2533274794139417;4381:
> > In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5 and have your friends join so again whats the problem again?
>
> General design issues with how weapons handle, vehicles handle, maps are designed. Ya know, the sort of thing people have been telling you for the last four or five pages.
>
> Maybe if you were vocal about the issue and raised attention to 343 that it was an issue, particularly hit reg, then they’d do something about it. Being silent and not saying anything at all does not inform 343 that they have an issue.
honestly I just stopped playing it because it wasn’t worth waiting for them to fix it and wasting my breath on complaining about it…and I don’t have to show empathy for whomever said that because the people here are trying to ruin my and many others experience so I can voice my opinion like you guys are doing so in case 343 reads this they know there are people who want sprint to stay
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> > > In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5 and have your friends join so again whats the problem again?
> >
> > General design issues with how weapons handle, vehicles handle, maps are designed. Ya know, the sort of thing people have been telling you for the last four or five pages.
> >
> > Maybe if you were vocal about the issue and raised attention to 343 that it was an issue, particularly hit reg, then they’d do something about it. Being silent and not saying anything at all does not inform 343 that they have an issue.
>
> honestly I just stopped playing it because it wasn’t worth waiting for them to fix it and wasting my breath on complaining about it…and I don’t have to show empathy for whomever said that because the people here are trying to ruin my and many others experience so I can voice my opinion like you guys are doing so in case 343 reads this they know there are people who want sprint to stay
Oh, so like the way that you’re encouraging 343 to continue to ruin my and many others experiences? And how you’ve name called, ridiculed and been generally obnoxious to the lot of us for the last few days? We’re doing this in case 343 reads this and knows that there are a lot of fans who want Sprint out.
I’m not at all saying you can’t voice your opinions, but the way you’re doing it and the way you keep doing it is not the way you should be doing it. There are plenty of other pro-Sprint players on here who are not being as rude as you are.
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> Did you ever think the reason sprint is in the game is because there’s a good amount of people like me that want it there obviously that must be it because it was added to Reach and that was Bungies doing
Sprint in reach wasn’t required to have fun in the game and it was a pick up
you still don’t get it increased movement speed does everything sprint does but better
While disappointed to see Sprint returning, I will say the speed increase seems almost negligible.
I think this is a great compromise between including Sprint and also reducing its usefulness to promote more vehicle usage as well as classic movement.
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> While disappointed to see Sprint returning, I will say the speed increase seems almost negligible.
>
> I think this is a great compromise between including Sprint and also reducing its usefulness to promote more vehicle usage as well as classic movement.
I think the compromise is great. Another detail I noticed is that the abilities seem very bogged down, for instance sprint seems slower along with slide and clamber.
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> > While disappointed to see Sprint returning, I will say the speed increase seems almost negligible.
> >
> > I think this is a great compromise between including Sprint and also reducing its usefulness to promote more vehicle usage as well as classic movement.
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> I think the compromise is great. Another detail I noticed is that the abilities seem very bogged down, for instance sprint seems slower along with slide and clamber.
Agreed!
I appreciate having the option to slide/sprint, as long as it’s not the peak performance movement option.
If I could go the majority of my time playing not utilizing sprint and also not feeling at a disadvantage I wouldn’t loathe its inclusion like I did in Halo 5. 
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> > While disappointed to see Sprint returning, I will say the speed increase seems almost negligible.
> >
> > I think this is a great compromise between including Sprint and also reducing its usefulness to promote more vehicle usage as well as classic movement.
>
> I think the compromise is great. Another detail I noticed is that the abilities seem very bogged down, for instance sprint seems slower along with slide and clamber.
i agree also with it 343i has make a good decision and make the perfect way to find the good belance in a inportent topic that was a problem for a lot off people and sure you have still some players that not will agree with it what 343i has done thats only normale you have.
and since some players have post on this thread also that there are anti sprint side and can accept this way the sprint has is something great to see that some people that hate sprint can accept this version off sprint will there hate the mechanic in the first place and accept it.
and since 343i has share that halo ifinite will be the only new halo game for a long time and there keep it up do date means that the discusion about sprint in halo is also done more and we have to deal with this version off sprint for a long time with new content also we get.
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> Did you ever think the reason sprint is in the game is because there’s a good amount of people like me that want it there obviously that must be it because it was added to Reach and that was Bungies doing
Did you ever think threads like this exist because there’s a good amount of people like me that want sprint gone?
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> > > In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5 and have your friends join so again whats the problem again?
> >
> > General design issues with how weapons handle, vehicles handle, maps are designed. Ya know, the sort of thing people have been telling you for the last four or five pages.
> >
> > Maybe if you were vocal about the issue and raised attention to 343 that it was an issue, particularly hit reg, then they’d do something about it. Being silent and not saying anything at all does not inform 343 that they have an issue.
>
> honestly I just stopped playing it because it wasn’t worth waiting for them to fix it and wasting my breath on complaining about it…and I don’t have to show empathy for whomever said that because the people here are trying to ruin my and many others experience so I can voice my opinion like you guys are doing so in case 343 reads this they know there are people who want sprint to stay
Do you honestly believe people have been complaining about sprint for 10 years simply because they want to ruin the experience for anyone who enjoys it, and not because they have issues with the mechanic? I’m assuming you don’t advocate for sprint just to ruin the experience for anyone who wants it gone. Is it so hard to believe that there are fair arguments to be made against sprint in Halo?
> 2533274794139417;4381:
> In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5 and have your friends join so again whats the problem again?
One of the main points I’ve listed in my initial post explicitly states that you can’t make a game designed around sprint and then just make a mode that doesn’t have it. It’s a matter of sandbox balancing; if sprint is added and allows the player to evade rocket and grenade explosions too easily, for example, the developers would increase the size of those explosions to make them viable in the presence of sprint. You take away sprint but keep the modified explosions, and you find yourself incapable of avoiding them, because they were never designed to be used without sprint. Therefore, making a sprint-less mode in a game featuring sprint is not an acceptable solution.
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> > > > In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5 and have your friends join so again whats the problem again?
> > >
> > > General design issues with how weapons handle, vehicles handle, maps are designed. Ya know, the sort of thing people have been telling you for the last four or five pages.
> > >
> > > Maybe if you were vocal about the issue and raised attention to 343 that it was an issue, particularly hit reg, then they’d do something about it. Being silent and not saying anything at all does not inform 343 that they have an issue.
> >
> > honestly I just stopped playing it because it wasn’t worth waiting for them to fix it and wasting my breath on complaining about it…and I don’t have to show empathy for whomever said that because the people here are trying to ruin my and many others experience so I can voice my opinion like you guys are doing so in case 343 reads this they know there are people who want sprint to stay
>
> Do you honestly believe people have been complaining about sprint for 10 years simply because they want to ruin the experience for anyone who enjoys it, and not because they have issues with the mechanic? I’m assuming you don’t advocate for sprint just to ruin the experience for anyone who wants it gone. Is it so hard to believe that there are fair arguments to be made against sprint in Halo?
LMFAOO THIS!!
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> im glad you guys aren’t video game programmers because this game would be the same until the end of time
I think you mean game designer, but nontheless.
Say I had designed a Tic-Tac-Toe variant what do you think it’d be like?
Or a version of chess, how do you think I’d design that?
How about a card deck building conquest board game?
Perhaps something more specific, to make it easier.
An MtG Riskesque board game. Both MtG and Risk are well known high profile physical games with quite recognisable rule sets.
Video games? Because table top for some reason doesn’t count? Despite being games, just in a different medium
This would just be remade with better graphics, that’s what you think I’d do rules wise, no?
Do you think you’d be able to produce any sort of actual proper guesses that describe the games and how they function?
If I was a one-note designer you’d have no problems manufacturing an accurate proper description, right?
Also, I think you missed this thread.
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> First and foremost I never cried about losing my vehicles
I’ll be the judge over what you cry about as you’ve decided to be the judge about what others cry about.
Don’t lose your vehicle, simple as that.
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> if you adapted fine they why in the world are you in this thread crying about how sprint breaks the gameplay when it actually doesn’t
Show me where I’ve said it breaks the gameplay, why don’t you?
Find an actual quote where I say it breaks gameplay, not something you take a biased interpretation to and twist it.
Last time I talked about its functionality, it was that it functions as intended.
Then you go find the part in the definition of “adapt” where it says you start liking what you adapt to.
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> lol if u don’t like sprint then don’t use it simple as that
Would that retract every design choice and balance measurement done in the game which in some way take sprint into account?
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> or play a custom game with like minded people and turn sprint off idk how hard that is to comprehend for u?
There’s no custom options campaign.
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> In fact when I play MCC I don’t like H3 so I remove it from my playlist I don’t go join a thread complaining about it hoping 343 fixes it and the leading shots or speed nope i just don’t play it very simple fix just like those who don’t like sprint can create a custom game without sprint does that not solve your problem if fact u could have done that with H5
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> Do we have a source for this?
>
> Only thing I found was this link stating that Halo 4 was top-selling Microsoft Studios game for launch year. (For US market) The best selling game before that for MS studios in launch year was Halo 3.
I’m still trying to find the exact numbers, I forgot where I got them from.
(No, it was’t VGChartz this time, even if that site does show matching sales numbers.)
In the meantime, this was released last year:
> From there, the series’ sales only increased. The much-hyped Halo 2 for Xbox is believed to have sold over 8 million copies, while Halo 3 for Xbox 360 sold somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 million copies. Subsequent Halo 3 spin-offs Halo: ODST and Halo: Reach performed similarly impressive by selling roughly 6.5 and almost 10 million units, respectively.
>
> The only name that matters more in those figures than “Halo” is “Bungie.” Halo creator Bungie’s last Halo title was Halo: Reach. Subsequent games in the series were developed by 343 Industries. To be fair. the transition started off fairly well. The 343-developed Halo 4 almost broke the 10 million sales mark
This coincides with what I remember about the sales, both games selling roughly the same with a slight edge for Reach.
However, I concede that until I find that source, this should be taken with a grain of salt and both games assumed to have sold en par.
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> > Do we have a source for this?
> >
> > Only thing I found was this link stating that Halo 4 was top-selling Microsoft Studios game for launch year. (For US market) The best selling game before that for MS studios in launch year was Halo 3.
>
> I’m still trying to find the exact numbers, I forgot where I got them from.
> (No, it was’t VGChartz this time, even if that site does show matching sales numbers.)
> In the meantime, this was released last year:
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> > From there, the series’ sales only increased. The much-hyped Halo 2 for Xbox is believed to have sold over 8 million copies, while Halo 3 for Xbox 360 sold somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 million copies. Subsequent Halo 3 spin-offs Halo: ODST and Halo: Reach performed similarly impressive by selling roughly 6.5 and almost 10 million units, respectively.
> >
> > The only name that matters more in those figures than “Halo” is “Bungie.” Halo creator Bungie’s last Halo title was Halo: Reach. Subsequent games in the series were developed by 343 Industries. To be fair. the transition started off fairly well. The 343-developed Halo 4 almost broke the 10 million sales mark
>
> This coincides with what I remember about the sales, both games selling roughly the same with a slight edge for Reach.
> However, I concede that until I find that source, this should be taken with a grain of salt and both games assumed to have sold en par.
I still find it interesting that 343i never released numbers for Halo 5. When a game is successful, developers and publishers shout it from the rooftops. All past games had numbers to go off of, but not Halo 5. Hm…