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> > You know how many times people try to run away in H5 and I still kill them stop complaining either get with the program or leave because if sprint was removed Iād stop complaining and leave and Iāve been playing halo since it came out in 2001 so put ur big boy pants on and stop crying
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> in halo 4 and halo 5 you have learn to deal with that problem that other players are sprinting when you wane kill then its something you need to learn.
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> you need only to learn good timing when you are shooting somebody that is sprinting away.
> its the same with jetpacks in halo reach is also something you need to learn to kill then in the sky.
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> and what most off the old players not wane do is learn with that type things how to counter it.
> its the same with the mantis in halo 4 if you know how to use it good then you can get a lot off kills with it its calling master things good.
> its the same with how to counter a mantis if somebody else is using it on the good way then you need to find out how to destroy it.
Thatās what Iām saying Iāve never seen so many people crying over a video game
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> You know how many times people try to run away in H5 and I still kill them stop complaining either get with the program or leave because if sprint was removed Iād stop complaining and leave and Iāve been playing halo since it came out in 2001 so put ur big boy pants on and stop crying
If you have no problems killing players who try to flee, enjoy Halo 5ās gameplay, and want to be dismissive of othersā grievances and tell them they can keep playing the older gamesā¦ why donāt you āput your big boy pants onā and just keep playing Halo 5?
Howās about you answer the questions I posed earlier? Why have sprint when we could instead move faster at all times and maintain full directional control? Why have it if the people who want faster gameplay are going to play CoD instead anyways? Why should those who dislike it have to play a handful of games (most of which are over a decade old) whereas those who prefer it get a huge library of current-gen games? Why should Halo conform to the gameplay style expected of other franchises, rather than remain true to its own?
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> > You guys need to chill sprint is great u do realize a lot of people didnāt like halo because it was too slow so they moved on to call of duty because it was fasterā¦Iām sorry Halo 3 was fun but after playing it on MCC I realized it was way to slow and people with vehicles always had a advantage and it became my least favorite halo. So if u guys want that the play H3 donāt hold back progress from the rest of us
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> Why should Halo have a sprint mechanic rather than just increase the base movement speed? That would make players faster at all times, rather than just when outside of combat.
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> Why should Halo have a sprint mechanic if the people who want faster gameplay are going to play CoD instead anyways? It has sprint AND faster kill times.
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> Why should players who prefer Halo without a sprint mechanic have to resort to playing Halo 3 (a game that is 13 years old)? Why shouldnāt players who prefer Halo with a sprint mechanic have to resort to playing Halo 4, Halo 5, or just about any other contemporary FPS? Those who prefer games with sprint have a huge selection of current-gen games, whereas those who prefer games without sprint have relatively slim pickings.
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> Why should Halo attempt to follow all these trends, rather than remain true to its own gameplay tenets/style and strengthening its identity by playing differently than the rest? Doom 2016 and Eternal went without conventional FPS sensibilities like two-weapon limits, sprint, reliance on ADS, etc. and they were extremely fun, refreshing, and fast-paced experiences.
Beautiful Explanation. The player count will drop just like 4 and 5 did within a few months if they donāt drop sprint and increase base movement speed. It turns into a run and gun COD match. Supposedly this game is going to be the one they focus on for the next 10 years so why would you use the same formula as reach, halo 4 and halo 5 when the population dwindled in those games within a few months. Is it the fact that they have been going down the wrong path for years and are too prideful to turn around and admit it?
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> > > You know how many times people try to run away in H5 and I still kill them stop complaining either get with the program or leave because if sprint was removed Iād stop complaining and leave and Iāve been playing halo since it came out in 2001 so put ur big boy pants on and stop crying
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> > in halo 4 and halo 5 you have learn to deal with that problem that other players are sprinting when you wane kill then its something you need to learn.
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> > you need only to learn good timing when you are shooting somebody that is sprinting away.
> > its the same with jetpacks in halo reach is also something you need to learn to kill then in the sky.
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> > and what most off the old players not wane do is learn with that type things how to counter it.
> > its the same with the mantis in halo 4 if you know how to use it good then you can get a lot off kills with it its calling master things good.
> > its the same with how to counter a mantis if somebody else is using it on the good way then you need to find out how to destroy it.
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> Thatās what Iām saying Iāve never seen so many people crying over a video game
Holy hyperbole, Batman. Iāve seen way worse. Especially considering how much 343i changed the franchise and gave the finger to older fans time and time again. And weāve rewarded them each time with lower sales numbers, lower interest and lower online population than the last (ha!). Considering all this, weāre downright tame.
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> You know how many times people try to run away in H5 and I still kill them
Anecdotal, and nothing which changes the objective effects of sprint.
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> stop complaining either get with the program or leave
Comes from the person first saying sprint is there to empower players against the big bad snipers and vehicles, only to immediately express that having weapons up at all times would be over powered.
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> so put ur big boy pants on and stop crying
So to sum it up.
Basically everything you brought to the table was answered in some way, you respond with that post, and weāre the ones to put our big boy pants on and stop crying?
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> So to sum it up.
> Basically everything you brought to the table was answered in some way, you respond with that post, and weāre the ones to put our big boy pants on and stop crying?
And yet I never cried I adapted just like I adapted to h4 and h5 so like I said donāt cry lol babies cry about not getting their way not adults
I was under the impression Halo 4 sold better than Halo Reach? And after that its only been Halo 5, so its hard to gauge sales numbers relative to install base.
Pokemon is open world now and features Raids. As someone who plays a lot of Smash Bros, I can tell you the community reacted to Brawl in the same way this community reacts to a Halo game with sprint. So I wouldnāt use those examples as comparisons.
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> > Basically everything you brought to the table was answered in some way, you respond with that post, and weāre the ones to put our big boy pants on and stop crying?
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> And yet I never cried I adapted just like I adapted to h4 and h5 so like I said donāt cry lol babies cry about not getting their way not adults
Iād hardly call it adapting or commend you for playing and enjoying Halo 4/5 when itās clear you prefer that run-or-gun style of gameplay and itās a style thatās been prevalent in FPS games since before either of those games released.
As a side note, calling those who disagree with you/have different preferences ācrying babiesā doesnāt help anyone and just (ironically) makes you seem more childish than you probably are.
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> And yet I never cried I adapted just like I adapted to h4 and h5 so like I said donāt cry lol babies cry about not getting their way not adults
It is good to acknowledge oneās owns accomplishments, good job adapting to Halo 4 and Halo 5.
As a matter of fact, Iām going to applaude myself a little for also adapting to Halo 4 and Halo 5ās gameplay. I too did adapt to those two games.
However, I wasnāt implying the one crying here is doing so over sprint or Halo.
See, what has been had was a discussion of sorts, an argument. The one crying is usually the one who lose temper, canāt focus, canāt respond to whatās been said to them, only to attempt name calling and insulting the other part.
I donāt think you have a healthy view of how an argument, dialog or discussion is held, if you believe the more mature part, or the āadultsā, the ones who you believe are right, resort to name calling, insults and otherwise disruptive manners.
If you want to discuss sprint, please go ahead and do so, maybe youāll learn a thing or two about the mechanic, or how to do better research, better put your arguments forward, or something else, as long as you open yourself up to properly listen and understand the other side. No, you donāt need to change your opinion.
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> > > Basically everything you brought to the table was answered in some way, you respond with that post, and weāre the ones to put our big boy pants on and stop crying?
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> > And yet I never cried I adapted just like I adapted to h4 and h5 so like I said donāt cry lol babies cry about not getting their way not adults
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> Iād hardly call it adapting or commend you for playing and enjoying Halo 4/5 when itās clear you prefer that run-or-gun style of gameplay and itās a style thatās been prevalent in FPS games since before either of those games released.
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> As a side note, calling those who disagree with you/have different preferences ācrying babiesā doesnāt help anyone and just (ironically) makes you seem more childish than you probably are.
Negative ghost rider when you have several threads with over 200 pages of the same people crying about the same thing over and over thats called being a cry baby and childishā¦you same people make other threads to say the the same crap get over it already if thats the case people should be crying about the game having a jump button because as I remember the original fps didnāt have jumping in them and yet I donāt hear u complaining now lol
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> > > > Basically everything you brought to the table was answered in some way, you respond with that post, and weāre the ones to put our big boy pants on and stop crying?
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> > > And yet I never cried I adapted just like I adapted to h4 and h5 so like I said donāt cry lol babies cry about not getting their way not adults
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> > Iād hardly call it adapting or commend you for playing and enjoying Halo 4/5 when itās clear you prefer that run-or-gun style of gameplay and itās a style thatās been prevalent in FPS games since before either of those games released.
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> > As a side note, calling those who disagree with you/have different preferences ācrying babiesā doesnāt help anyone and just (ironically) makes you seem more childish than you probably are.
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> Negative ghost rider when you have several threads with over 200 pages of the same people crying about the same thing over and over thats called being a cry baby and childishā¦you same people make other threads to say the the same crap get over it already if thats the case people should be crying about the game having a jump button because as I remember the original fps didnāt have jumping in them and yet I donāt hear u complaining now lol
You fault people for discussing what they donāt like about the changes in Halo over the past few installments with the hopes that the next one will be more to their liking, as if that isnāt a purpose of forums.
You come to a thread specifically about discussing what kind of movement mechanics people would like to see in Infiniteā¦ and you complain about people having different preferences than you, voicing their opinions, and hoping Infinite appeals to them.
You donāt engage in earnest debate or try to persuade, but rather resort to childish name-calling and mischaracterization (and when called out for that behavior, say āno uā).
You make bad faith suggestions like ājust play already-existing games that suit your preferencesā without the self-awareness to admit that it isnāt an acceptable solution for you.
You build strawman positions (ājumping wasnāt in FPS games from the early 90ās, so if you really want Halo to have āold schoolā movement you should want jumping removed lolā) and think youāre clever for tearing them down. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see where that argument fails, so Iām not going to bother addressing it.
You arenāt here to converse. Youāre just here to stir the pot and ātriggerā people who like different things than you. Iām done wasting my time with you (again, not because you prefer Halo with sprint, but because you arenāt sincerely here to do anything approaching constructive dialogue).
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> > > > > Basically everything you brought to the table was answered in some way, you respond with that post, and weāre the ones to put our big boy pants on and stop crying?
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> > > > And yet I never cried I adapted just like I adapted to h4 and h5 so like I said donāt cry lol babies cry about not getting their way not adults
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> > > As a side note, calling those who disagree with you/have different preferences ācrying babiesā doesnāt help anyone and just (ironically) makes you seem more childish than you probably are.
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> > Negative ghost rider when you have several threads with over 200 pages of the same people crying about the same thing over and over thats called being a cry baby and childishā¦you same people make other threads to say the the same crap get over it already if thats the case people should be crying about the game having a jump button because as I remember the original fps didnāt have jumping in them and yet I donāt hear u complaining now lol
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> You fault people for discussing what they donāt like about the changes in Halo over the past few installments with the hopes that the next one will be more to their liking, as if that isnāt a purpose of forums.
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> You come to a thread specifically about discussing what kind of movement mechanics people would like to see in Infiniteā¦ and you complain about people having different preferences than you, voicing their opinions, and hoping Infinite appeals to them.
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> You donāt engage in earnest debate or try to persuade, but rather resort to childish name-calling and mischaracterization (and when called out for that behavior, say āno uā).
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> You make bad faith suggestions like ājust play already-existing games that suit your preferencesā without the self-awareness to admit that it isnāt an acceptable solution for you.
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> You build strawman positions (ājumping wasnāt in FPS games from the early 90ās, so if you really want Halo to have āold schoolā movement you should want jumping removed lolā) and think youāre clever for tearing them down. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see where that argument fails, so Iām not going to bother addressing it.
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> You arenāt here to converse. Youāre just here to stir the pot and ātriggerā people who like different things than you. Iām done wasting my time with you (again, not because you prefer Halo with sprint, but because you arenāt sincerely here to do anything approaching constructive dialogue).
Are you serious? I definitely didnāt like H3 because it didnāt play as good as H2 and it felt slow as hell and the fact you had to lead shots 2 feet in front of you but I never complained I just dealt with it. And it wasnāt the fact that people stopped playing after reach because of sprint its the fact that many people after h3 felt the gameplay became stale because of the slow movement and how long it took to kill someone and I know that for a fact because I asked plenty of people why they didnāt play halo and thatās the answer I receivedā¦H5 multi-player was just as good as H2 multi-player and it had enough speed so u could react and defend yourself but I get it u would rather shoot fish in a barrel because thats easier for u
Well gentlemen itās been a long war but we lost the anti sprint federation has lostā¦
well the way I see it if we the true fans which there are a lot of simply donāt buy halo anymore we can do kind of scorched earth and simply let the series die through low sales if we the fans canāt have halo no one will.
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> Well gentlemen itās been a long war but we lost the anti sprint federation has lostā¦
Sadly. We have to accept it, even though it hurts. Iāve never seen a franchise holder disrespect its oldest fanbase like 343i has. At least not in gaming.
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> Sadly. We have to accept it, even though it hurts. Iāve never seen a franchise holder disrespect its oldest fanbase like 343i has. At least not in gaming.
As someone who has been playing since 2002 I donāt feel disrespected at all.
Kinda flawed your logic.
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> Sadly. We have to accept it, even though it hurts. Iāve never seen a franchise holder disrespect its oldest fanbase like 343i has. At least not in gaming.
Agreed. Shame on them. They have never show in any of their work that they understand what made Halo great in the first place. Phis Spencer is probably on them and ruining the games more too with corporate crap. Trying to copy call of duty.
then let me ask you this:
if a lot off people hate new mechanicās in the halo series whats the point then for releasing new halo gameās then if new mechanicās are not welcome in the halo series and only the old oneās most be used?
and here is something else also.
halo reach was almost Cancelled but thanks to microsoft that was not happing that means the game titel owner microsoft that owns all halo titels has the final call about things.
and if microsoft wane modern the halo series then the developer in halo reach case bungie got no choose to listing and same goās for 343i with halo 4 ,5 and ifinite that if modern things need to be add in the game there most do it if there like it or not.
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Gonna quote what tsassi said because it seems relevant (and quickly forgotten)
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> I wouldāve missed a whole lot of learning opportunities if I had worked under the misbelief that I was giving feedback directly to 343i. Iād go so far as to say that anybody who thinks that the primary purpose of this discussion is feedback, or even to convince someone of something, is missing out on something. If i start from the mindeset that Iām only here to tell what 343i needs to do, I wonāt have motivation to question my own reasoning. As a consequence, I will be less able to develop my understanding and improve my reasoning, and to adapt to new information or changing circumstances. I will never be able to understand people I disagree with, and will in turn never be able to convince them of anything.
This post isnāt (or at least shouldnāt) be about trying to make 343i do anything, or whatever expectations of this game.
Also these posts have been around since 2010. This will just be consistently brought up until the next game.
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> > > > > > Basically everything you brought to the table was answered in some way, you respond with that post, and weāre the ones to put our big boy pants on and stop crying?
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> > > > > And yet I never cried I adapted just like I adapted to h4 and h5 so like I said donāt cry lol babies cry about not getting their way not adults
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> > > > Iād hardly call it adapting or commend you for playing and enjoying Halo 4/5 when itās clear you prefer that run-or-gun style of gameplay and itās a style thatās been prevalent in FPS games since before either of those games released.
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> > > > As a side note, calling those who disagree with you/have different preferences ācrying babiesā doesnāt help anyone and just (ironically) makes you seem more childish than you probably are.
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> > > Negative ghost rider when you have several threads with over 200 pages of the same people crying about the same thing over and over thats called being a cry baby and childishā¦you same people make other threads to say the the same crap get over it already if thats the case people should be crying about the game having a jump button because as I remember the original fps didnāt have jumping in them and yet I donāt hear u complaining now lol
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> > You fault people for discussing what they donāt like about the changes in Halo over the past few installments with the hopes that the next one will be more to their liking, as if that isnāt a purpose of forums.
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> > You come to a thread specifically about discussing what kind of movement mechanics people would like to see in Infiniteā¦ and you complain about people having different preferences than you, voicing their opinions, and hoping Infinite appeals to them.
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> > You donāt engage in earnest debate or try to persuade, but rather resort to childish name-calling and mischaracterization (and when called out for that behavior, say āno uā).
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> > You make bad faith suggestions like ājust play already-existing games that suit your preferencesā without the self-awareness to admit that it isnāt an acceptable solution for you.
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> > You build strawman positions (ājumping wasnāt in FPS games from the early 90ās, so if you really want Halo to have āold schoolā movement you should want jumping removed lolā) and think youāre clever for tearing them down. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together can see where that argument fails, so Iām not going to bother addressing it.
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> > You arenāt here to converse. Youāre just here to stir the pot and ātriggerā people who like different things than you. Iām done wasting my time with you (again, not because you prefer Halo with sprint, but because you arenāt sincerely here to do anything approaching constructive dialogue).
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> Are you serious? I definitely didnāt like H3 because it didnāt play as good as H2 and it felt slow as hell and the fact you had to lead shots 2 feet in front of you but I never complained I just dealt with it. And it wasnāt the fact that people stopped playing after reach because of sprint its the fact that many people after h3 felt the gameplay became stale because of the slow movement and how long it took to kill someone and I know that for a fact because I asked plenty of people why they didnāt play halo and thatās the answer I receivedā¦H5 multi-player was just as good as H2 multi-player and it had enough speed so u could react and defend yourself but I get it u would rather shoot fish in a barrel because thats easier for u
Yeah, I would not discount this ^ personās opinion because I share that feeling about Halo 3. When it came out, I had massive pressure to play it because it was the premier game, but I absolutely hated the projectile battle rifle, especially online. The game was border line unplayable for me, and quite unplayable without the 110% damage buff included in MLG playlist. Sadly MLG playlist is toxic and sweaty at times, and bungie refusing to do things like patch the game to 110% made many players suffer and share the experience of the quoted text.
It is relevant to the debate because he is saying that you being forced to sprint is no worse than him being forced to go from Halo 2 to Halo 3 which had a much higher TTK than Halo 2.
I only agree with him for this specific example because of how bad the core BR gameplay was compared to Halo 2. Other than that I disagree that sprint is as trivial as a changing from hitscan to projectile as an online gamer.
Again doom eternal completely destroys your argument we didnāt say never add or improve honestly I feel Id software would make a better halo than 343