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> Guys am sorry it wasn’t sprint, the Master Chief never run he was just walking fast. When someone in the comment said he was running faster than the marines. First of all he is an augmented human so its obviously that he will walk faster than marines. So we weren’t running and shooting at the same time in the first 3 halo games just walking and shooting.
As has already been explained, 7m/s is not walking. It’s actually 2/3rds the speed of Usain Bolt’s sprint world record, and Chief can keep this pace indefinitely while shooting at the same time.
But fine, whatever. Remove the sprint mechanic and buff the BMS to 11m/s (the sprint speed in H5G). Works for me. As long as I can once again shoot while running, I don’t care at which velocity I’m doing it.
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> > > > in which halo game were you able to run and shoot at the same time ?
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> Whatever your definition of walking is I point out that in games prior to Reach the Spartans are moving at 6.9 meters (22.5 feet) per second. Regarding the definition of walking itself, at least one foot touching the ground at any given time is a requirement in the standard definition of walking, and when this requirement is not fulfilled, the gait is regarded as running. (By “standard” here I mean the definition that is generally used when discussing animal locomotion.) If you look at the run cycle of Spartans in any of the games from the original trilogy, there is a definite moment when neither of the feet is touching the ground. Therefore, according to the standard definition of “running”, the Spartans in the original trilogy are, in fact, running.
Any one else who wants to argue this fact , go watch the movement animation for Spartans in CE. The animation looks like he is about to kick himself if he tries any harder…who walks taking steps like that?
What if instead of sprint as implemented in Halo 5, it was simply a holster weapon option that gave you a very small increase in movement speed, like 3-5%? For intense smaller map gameplay it would be impractical to use and simply unnecessary, but on larger BTB maps where you might find yourself needing to run a long way, it would give you a small boost. Think of PUBG, and the difference in movement speed between sprinting with weapon out and weapon holstered. This would be a simple mechanic that fits very well into the lore, and is also just logical. Spartans are always going to run around a combat arena at full speed (no button press necessary), but of course if you holster all your weapons you will be able to run slightly faster. And, there is a logical penalty for using it (you need to pull your weapon back out). For the majority of play, this would bring back the feel of Halo that classic fans love, but also retain the function of covering open ground a little faster, while also keeping vehicles relevant (specifically transport vehicles like the mongoose). This would be lore compliant, and a side benefit would be cool new machinima possibilities.
Follow Up:
I am curious to hear what other people think about a system like this. What value (gameplay, lore, or otherwise) does having a Halo 5 style sprint add to the game? Does my proposed system meet the same value needs you are looking for?
Wow this thread is still going? I’m impressed. I can’t say I think 343 will implement classic movement again, but I’ll keep a little amount of hope until I see gameplay. It’s the only thing that will bring me back to the Halo series.
With my time away from Halo I’ve gone back to older arena games I use to play and loved, and it really confirmed my belief that the classic movement would bring back the glory that was Halo at one point in time. Going back to Quake after so long, I couldn’t believe how much fun I was having. The movement, the simple but dynamic maps, map pickups, timing weapons. No hand holding. Simple, but elegant. It was all so brilliant. And Halo used to have it’s own wonderful version of this. As soon as sprint and AA’s came it started going down the drain. 343 took those and decided to make their mp revolve around them.
If you were a fan of the old Halo with classic movement, you should really just go and see how those old school fps arena games still play. They’re still very fun and it’s much better than wasting your time fighting a losing battle.
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> > > > > > I’ve been playing halo since the OG xbox but if sprint gone so am I. I can’t go back to the slow movement of halo 3. If that’s the case good bye halo I loved u so much
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> > > > > What about the slow movement of CE?
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> > I hope not I can’t think of a current fps with slow movement that’s crazy that a lot of people want the H3 movement
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> What about Doom?
> Edit: that didn’t work as I hoped
Doom is way faster than H3 movement so that’s different
Just keep sprint in the game if people don’t wanna use it then dont but don’t penalize people who think it should stay…might as well take the sprint mechanism out of mario games too or sonic lol this is a joke
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> Just keep sprint in the game if people don’t wanna use it then dont but don’t penalize people who think it should stay…might as well take the sprint mechanism out of mario games too or sonic lol this is a joke
How about this;
When a match start, all players can choose between two loadouts.
First loadout disable sprint, but increases the BMS to sprint speed.
Second loadout enables sprint, but has the BMS at default level.
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> > > > > > > I’ve been playing halo since the OG xbox but if sprint gone so am I. I can’t go back to the slow movement of halo 3. If that’s the case good bye halo I loved u so much
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> > > > > > What about the slow movement of CE?
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> > > I hope not I can’t think of a current fps with slow movement that’s crazy that a lot of people want the H3 movement
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> > What about Doom?
> > Edit: that didn’t work as I hoped
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> Doom is way faster than H3 movement so that’s different
Doom is as fast as it needs to be for it’s play style, Halo 3 is the same way but Halo 3 is a much older game so it doesn’t resonate with younger people I guess. My hope on infinite going back to classic movements would be something like Doom because it could have that same feeling of classic and modern mechanics that people want.
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> > Just keep sprint in the game if people don’t wanna use it then dont but don’t penalize people who think it should stay…might as well take the sprint mechanism out of mario games too or sonic lol this is a joke
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> How about this;
> When a match start, all players can choose between two loadouts.
> First loadout disable sprint, but increases the BMS to sprint speed.
> Second loadout enables sprint, but has the BMS at default level.
and have you think all about the players that hate the loadouts system in the halo game’s?
this will maybe fix the sprint problem but then you get trouble with players that not wane see any type off loadout system in the halo game.
its maybe a good solution for one problem but you create also at the same time a other problem.
and the problem will get then you get players that not wane see any type off loadout system in a halo game then and how do you fix that problem then.
like i have told all on the sprint thread: there is no way to make all the comunnety members happy with things there hate and not wane see in the halo game’s more and others the wane see it again in the halo game’s.
since there is no way to do it and if 343 is doing it all i think you get more a big mass in the halo game that is more unplayable for all the players to play.
there are things you can have a good solution for but in this case about sprint is it not working since there is no solution.
that means 343 most make the call if sprint is coming in the next halo game or not.
since the communety is to much split out off it and there is only 1 way to deal with it.
343 most make the final judgment about sprint if its coming or not and we all most respect it what the judgment off 343 is about sprint in the halo game’s if we like it or not we most respect it still since its showing on this and about the sprint thread that the communety is to much split out off it.
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> > > > > > > I’ve been playing halo since the OG xbox but if sprint gone so am I. I can’t go back to the slow movement of halo 3. If that’s the case good bye halo I loved u so much
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> > > > > > What about the slow movement of CE?
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> > > I hope not I can’t think of a current fps with slow movement that’s crazy that a lot of people want the H3 movement
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> > What about Doom?
> > Edit: that didn’t work as I hoped
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> Doom is way faster than H3 movement so that’s different
Halo 3 wasn’t slow it had awful fov which made it feel slow how dumb are people to not realise this I hate to say that but it’s been stated so many times now it’s ridiculous
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> > > > > > > > I’ve been playing halo since the OG xbox but if sprint gone so am I. I can’t go back to the slow movement of halo 3. If that’s the case good bye halo I loved u so much
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> > > > > > > What about the slow movement of CE?
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> > > > I hope not I can’t think of a current fps with slow movement that’s crazy that a lot of people want the H3 movement
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> > > What about Doom?
> > > Edit: that didn’t work as I hoped
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> > Doom is way faster than H3 movement so that’s different
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> Halo 3 wasn’t slow it had awful fov which made it feel slow how dumb are people to not realise this I hate to say that but it’s been stated so many times now it’s ridiculous
You said it yourself, Halo 3 feels slow. Does it matter that it was because the field of view. What is important is the feel of the game.
Has anyone tried to make a custom game in Halo 5 that changed all the movement mechanics to what would be preferred in infinite. Just curious because I realized that all the armor abilities can be toggled and the base movement speed, acceleration, and jump height as well can all be tuned in custom games. Seems like a good place to test some of the things in this thread.
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> > > > > > > > I’ve been playing halo since the OG xbox but if sprint gone so am I. I can’t go back to the slow movement of halo 3. If that’s the case good bye halo I loved u so much
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> > > > > > > What about the slow movement of CE?
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> > > > I hope not I can’t think of a current fps with slow movement that’s crazy that a lot of people want the H3 movement
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> > > What about Doom?
> > > Edit: that didn’t work as I hoped
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> > Doom is way faster than H3 movement so that’s different
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> Halo 3 wasn’t slow it had awful fov which made it feel slow how dumb are people to not realise this I hate to say that but it’s been stated so many times now it’s ridiculous
I don’t think anyone said it was slow just slower than doom.
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> > How about this;
> > When a match start, all players can choose between two loadouts.
> > First loadout disable sprint, but increases the BMS to sprint speed.
> > Second loadout enables sprint, but has the BMS at default level.
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> and have you think all about the players that hate the loadouts system in the halo game’s.
Have you taken the time to understand what my non-serious suggestion would literally mean for the game?
A silly suggestion made against another not thought through suggestion.
Even then, I dislike loadouts, but I’d in all honestly take that suggestion I made, provided there are no other differences between them, than what I stated, between the two options.
I actually imagine there are those who dislike both sprint and loadouts, who’d happily accept my suggestion.
Yes, I would love for Halo: Infinite to have no sprint with great campaign & multiplayer with maps focused on map control instead of the jungle-gym feeling of H5 maps. Good examples would be Warlock, Guardian, High Ground, Derelict and more.
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> > > > > > > > > I’ve been playing halo since the OG xbox but if sprint gone so am I. I can’t go back to the slow movement of halo 3. If that’s the case good bye halo I loved u so much
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> > > > > I hope not I can’t think of a current fps with slow movement that’s crazy that a lot of people want the H3 movement
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> > > > What about Doom?
> > > > Edit: that didn’t work as I hoped
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> > > Doom is way faster than H3 movement so that’s different
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> > Halo 3 wasn’t slow it had awful fov which made it feel slow how dumb are people to not realise this I hate to say that but it’s been stated so many times now it’s ridiculous
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> You said it yourself, Halo 3 feels slow. Does it matter that it was because the field of view. What is important is the feel of the game.
And even with doom level speed a low fov can make it feel sluggish for example bf4 a game with sprint feels slow as heck
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> > > How about this;
> > > When a match start, all players can choose between two loadouts.
> > > First loadout disable sprint, but increases the BMS to sprint speed.
> > > Second loadout enables sprint, but has the BMS at default level.
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> > and have you think all about the players that hate the loadouts system in the halo game’s.
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> Have you taken the time to understand what my non-serious suggestion would literally mean for the game?
> A silly suggestion made against another not thought through suggestion.
>
> Even then, I dislike loadouts, but I’d in all honestly take that suggestion I made, provided there are no other differences between them, than what I stated, between the two options.
> I actually imagine there are those who dislike both sprint and loadouts, who’d happily accept my suggestion.
do you know all what for idea’s there have been suggest all for making a good belance between the 2 groups about sprint all?
there have been alot off idea’s been suggest to fix this problem and make it a win-win for both side’s but you know that in the 2 big groups are also small groups that are not agree with each other.
the idea’s that have been suggest all are: make 2 diffrend playlist’s one 1 with sprint and other without sprint what you get then = that some players not wane see it in the campaign also that there is no sprint or you get there not wane see it in the full game any sprint.
that means this suggestion has fail since the you get still diffrends between the campaign and matchmaking.
your suggestion about making 2 diffrend loadouts is getting more the same thing by other players in the i hate sprint group.
that there not wane see it in the campaign, not wane see it in the full game, and the new one there not wane see any type off loadouts system in the halo game.
that means also that the suggestion has fail.
suggestions about how it can become better about sprint in halo are 100% worthless since there fail automatic in the halo communety.
i give you a 10+ for trying and post a suggestion same if it fails automatic about this.
i think we all know that the diffrend between clasic and modern we wane see in halo is something we can agree on as communety and need to let 343 to make the decision about it.
and the only decision we can make is do you buy the game or not gone buy the game thats the only decision we as communety can make on or own and things like that halo most stay classic or become more modern are decisions we not can make on since the communety is split about it.
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> i give you a 10+ for trying and post a suggestion same if it fails automatic about this.
Height above your head my posts went: Moon
Seriously, you’re taking a sarcastic suggestion and taking it as an extremely serious post.
You’re only wasting your own time.
Then again, you don’t seem to understand how the sarcastic suggestion would work in game, I suggest you go back to that post, and reread it.
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> Height above your head my posts went: Moon
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> Seriously, you’re taking a sarcastic suggestion and taking it as an extremely serious post.
> You’re only wasting your own time.
> Then again, you don’t seem to understand how the sarcastic suggestion would work in game, I suggest you go back to that post, and reread it.
i have read it good
but what i told more was that there are communety members that not wane see any type off sprint in the halo game’s
what do you gone tell to then about your suggestion since there are communety members that only wane see that halo stay’s full classic that means also no loatout system.
and there are communety members that wane see halo become’s modern with sprint and other things.
and like the OP from this thread has post it all on the first post that The Halo community really is split in half.
that means some communety members are going to be happy with the way halo series is gone be and the other half is staying unhappy.
and since we not know how halo infinite will become we all most wait and see it.