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> I dismiss the opinions of those that dismiss the opinions of others because they think their opinion matters more.
Yes, I do too. I’ve found that the best way to show my honorable intentions and disdain towards elitists is to make vague sweeping dismissive remarks. I could of course just try to have a respectful discussion with the people I respect while ignoring the ones I don’t, but then I’m afraid that wouldn’t show my clear moral superiority to the elitists.
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> > I dismiss the opinions of those that dismiss the opinions of others because they think their opinion matters more.
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> Yes, I do too. I’ve found that the best way to show my honorable intentions and disdain towards elitists is to make vague sweeping dismissive remarks. I could of course just try to have a respectful discussion with the people I respect while ignoring the ones I don’t, but then I’m afraid that wouldn’t show my clear moral superiority to the elitists.
You’ve completely avoided my example with dismissing fascists using your same logic.
Elitist is a word that has a meaning. I didn’t use it for the fun of it. If someone is an elitist, then I think lesser of their opinion. You don’t have to explain the irony. But again, if someone is a fascist, thinking lesser of their opinions doesn’t make you a fascist.
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> > Well as luck would have it, there was a ‘similar’ in there somewhere, when I mentioned Halo 5’s sprint…
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> Certainly not in the first post of yours in this quote chain.
Of course not. That’s because I hadn’t brought up sprint in Halo 5 yet.
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> > I dismiss fans knee-deep in nostalgia because you aren’t going to change their minds, due to said nostalgia. It eventually ends in pointless aggression, which is what I wanted to avoid. It can also lead to elitism, which it has done in some of the 2554 comments thus far, and I don’t abide by it.
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> So, your course of action is pointing out you have a long post, but not wanting to share it at all. Instead you choose to dismiss any potential argument against your not-posted long post by pulling the “nostalgia card”, and not posting your long post.
I didn’t dismiss any argument because none were given to me. All I’ve received is questions about my original comment (from yourself), and questions about my replies (to you and others, and from you and others). I made a statement that sprint not being present isn’t a compromise. As I’ve said, I didn’t post my original comment because there are some in the thread that would immediately dismiss it, due to nostalgia. I didn’t want to, ironically, get into a long argument, but was still frustrated at overly nostalgic fans. So made the comment about the wall of nostalgia. A comment I now wish I’d kept to myself, because it really wasn’t worth it.
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> > Counter points against sprint, whether it can be implemented as a compromise feature or not, and how, if it can be, implemented as a compromise feature. I’m sorry I didn’t make it clearer. I wrongly assumed you’d be able to read between the lines.
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> You mentioned sprint once…
> After you dismissed any potential argument by pulling the nostalgia card and not posting your long post.
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> What kind of discussions were you hoping to acheive by not posting whatever long thing you had, make a dismissive remark, further amplified by not posting whatever you had to say, and make a short short statement regarding sprint?
Sprint is the crux of classic movement mechanics, which is the point of this thread. I assumed it wouldn’t have to be mentioned several times in short paragraphs.
The seemingly obvious discussion to me was whether or not sprint could be implemented in a compromising way, so that it appeals to fans of both movement mechanics. Again, I’m sorry if this wasn’t clear to you.
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> I hope the game emphasises vehicle travel to get around if it is open world.
Even if not open-world, the use of vehicles such as in the level ‘Halo’ in Halo CE would be great.
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> > I hope the game emphasises vehicle travel to get around if it is open world.
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> Even if not open-world, the use of vehicles such as in the level ‘Halo’ in Halo CE would be great.
I agree. If 343i is attempting to make the Halo ring a sandbox, I would hope that they emphasis the roles that vehicles would play. That, or give us a dang drive-able Pelican so that we can have vehicle drops and troop drops.
What an eventful discussion. 343i ain’t going to remove sprint folks. I’m calling it now.
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> Of course not. That’s because I hadn’t brought up sprint in Halo 5 yet.
Exactly, and as such, “similar” is irrelevant, because the point of interest is the first post.
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> I didn’t dismiss any argument because none were given to me.
Arguments can’t be given to a post you chose not to post due to nostalgia posters.
You saying what you didn’t do, and why, is dismissing all arguments which could be made against it.
“I could post, but I’m not because there are people of a certain kind that may argue with it/me”
You even Said it yourself.
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> As I’ve said, I didn’t post my original comment because there are some in the thread that would immediately dismiss it, due to nostalgia.
And that combination of actions, not sharing and telling why, makes it seem like all who are of a different opinion than you, is nostalgic, because you give no one the chance to prove otherwise.
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> Sprint is the crux of classic movement mechanics, which is the point of this thread. I assumed it wouldn’t have to be mentioned several times in short paragraphs.
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> The seemingly obvious discussion to me was whether or not sprint could be implemented in a compromising way, so that it appeals to fans of both movement mechanics. Again, I’m sorry if this wasn’t clear to you.
There was nothing inviting for a sprint discussion in the initial post, considering it was one statement with no additional information.
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> You’ve completely avoided my example with dismissing fascists using your same logic.
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> Elitist is a word that has a meaning. I didn’t use it for the fun of it. If someone is an elitist, then I think lesser of their opinion. You don’t have to explain the irony. But again, if someone is a fascist, thinking lesser of their opinions doesn’t make you a fascist.
Because I was tactfully trying to steer the discussion away from an example that was in very poor taste and is bordering very close to content that would need to be moderated. Now, do not mention fascism again. Do not try to justify your mention of fascism to me. Just move on with the discussion. If you have any questions or you don’t understand why you shouldn’t mention fascism so lightly, feel free to contact me via a private message. But there’s going to be no more talk about fascism in this thread.
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> What an eventful discussion. 343i ain’t going to remove sprint folks. I’m calling it now.
I think we all realize that on some level, but I’m still going to complain about it. The only real question in my mind is how hard they’re gonna double down, and what form that will take.
People who say hey want sprint because halo 3 was too slow are too silly to realise that it’s really not hard to increase the player movement speed to 120%
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> > What an eventful discussion. 343i ain’t going to remove sprint folks. I’m calling it now.
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> I think we all realize that on some level, but I’m still going to complain about it. The only real question in my mind is how hard they’re gonna double down, and what form that will take.
Well, from what i’ve read, sprint, slide and clamber are there and thats it. Of course, there’s no way to confirm this until actual gameplay is out, but in the new trailer, when the text is scrolling on Chief’s visor, you could see the text “ABL CHQ” and “RUN CHQ”. I’m not sure what else that would refer to other than sprint and abilities.
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> What an eventful discussion. 343i ain’t going to remove sprint folks. I’m calling it now.
Two or so years ago, I too made that call, and while I now find it more difficult to make, I agree with you, but not as strongly.
Without trying to instill too much hope;
There was supposidely a divide close to 50/50 att i343 about sprint for Halo 5. A dispute that had to be resolved by the higher ups.
I’ve heard heads have changed at key leading positions.
Halo Infinite being a soft reboot could mean gameplay skin to the originals, and I’m sure i343 know how some of the community think sprint affect the gameplay.
New engine, could potentially mean less old assets that can be re-used, and pretty much all programming has to be redone. Sprint is more resource demanding than straight up BMS only.
The constant direct and indirect nerfs on sprint we’ve seen since Halo 4’s release.
There are some of these which I think speak a lot for sprint’s exclusion.
However soft reboot could be the same spiel as Halo 4’s “back to the roots” and mean absolutely nothing.
Other than that, I’m certain sprint will be in, just not as certain as a few years ago.
Halo 5 has a perfect gameplay, the best in the saga that is the only good thing he has. Halo infinite needs to have a gameplay that takes the goods thinghs of all halo gameplay
I’d rather have Reach gameplay, as I greatly preferred those gameplay mechanics.
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> I’d rather have Reach gameplay, as I greatly preferred those gameplay mechanics.
But without armor locke and bloom
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> > I’d rather have Reach gameplay, as I greatly preferred those gameplay mechanics.
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> But without armor locke and bloom
I mean, I don’t plan on or have any interest in multiplayer, so those things don’t bother me. The only change I’d make would be for non-armor ability sprint but have it the same duration and speed.
I think that the different mechanics we’ve seen over the years should be options in various playlists. It’d be an attempted to start to please both classic and modern mechanic fans.
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> However soft reboot could be the same spiel as Halo 4’s “back to the roots” and mean absolutely nothing.
I thought the “back to the roots” tag was related to Halo 5 and how they were making a concerted effort to get back to even starts with everyone having the same character abilities and weapons while also featuring the Magnum as a primary precision loadout weapon again too.
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> There are some of these which I think speak a lot for sprint’s exclusion.
I mean i hope you’re right, but it just doesn’t seem likely. It seems likely to me that sprint as a feature is mandated by the higher ups, since sprint still made it into Halo 5. The person who spoke about it is someone i’m familiar with. They were claiming that they knew about advanced customisation before it was announced. But again, what could ABL and RUN refer to? If enhanced mobility isn’t going to be in it, i would rather they just come straight out and say it. It would be better than all of this anticipation just to be potentially disappointed.
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> > There are some of these which I think speak a lot for sprint’s exclusion.
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> I mean i hope you’re right, but it just doesn’t seem likely. It seems likely to me that sprint as a feature is mandated by the higher ups, since sprint still made it into Halo 5. The person who spoke about it is someone i’m familiar with. They were claiming that they knew about advanced customisation before it was announced. But again, what could ABL and RUN refer to? If enhanced mobility isn’t going to be in it, i would rather they just come straight out and say it. It would be better than all of this anticipation just to be potentially disappointed.
For reasons, they’ll never say the phrase “Sprint will not be included.” Even if Sprint actually would not be included.
Saying that implies something is being taken away and is a clear negative, and people won’t like that - either they’re making a mistake now or they made a huge mistake in the past. They’ll either spin it to be a positive “Spartans are fighting machines that never stop shooting or fighting” (kinda like DOOM), or they’ll ignore it outright.
Things like Armor Abilities were never outright removed, Spartan Abilities were just the next “evolution”, even if the only one that made it across was Evade/Thruster Pack and Active Camo went back to being a power up again. Loadouts look like they were removed, but they were just transferred to Warzone and Arena had the “most finely tuned sandbox ever.”