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> > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
>
> So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
>
> Why is that a problem?
>
> If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
and here is also a good question:
what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
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> > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> >
> > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> >
> > Why is that a problem?
> >
> > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
>
> what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> and here is also a good question:
> what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
Except all of what you said is wrong.
Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
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> > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > >
> > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > >
> > > Why is that a problem?
> > >
> > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> >
> > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > and here is also a good question:
> > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
>
> Except all of what you said is wrong.
>
> Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
>
> You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
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> > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > >
> > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > >
> > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > >
> > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > and here is also a good question:
> > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> >
> > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> >
> > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> >
> > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
>
> the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
Way to suddenly “assume” why I do and don’t like Sprint, since I don’t remember telling you my feelings in either direction.
So they added Sprint so you can’t shoot and run at the same time, then why didn’t Halo 4’s Sprint work out, by your own words, since you can’t shoot and run at the same time there either?
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> > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > >
> > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > >
> > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > >
> > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > >
> > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > and here is also a good question:
> > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> >
> > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> >
> > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> >
> > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
>
> the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
There we go again with the “You hate this blah blah blah” You can’t tell anyone their feelings, so cool down, or actually be respectful because I don’t think anyone likes your attitude, just shut up. You can still argue your points, but in a respectful way.
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> > > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > > >
> > > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > > and here is also a good question:
> > > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> > >
> > > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> > >
> > > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> > >
> > > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
> >
> > the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> > and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
>
> There we go again with the “You hate this blah blah blah” You can’t tell anyone their feelings, so cool down, or actually be respectful because I don’t think anyone likes your attitude, just shut up. You can still argue your points, but in a respectful way.
He STAYS contradicting what everyone has to say with somewhat broken engilsh lol
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> the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
Classic gameplay yielded better results to the overall population. Simple as that. Trends/Times have nothing to do with it.
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> what is Advanced movement then.
> if its sprint then its notting advanced about it.
> if its with trusters for extra sprint speed then its advanced.
Advanced movement mechanics are often regarded as features and mechanics which add ontop of basic ones.
Basic mechanics being moving, jumping and crouching.
Some also take into account if an ability has been in the series from the start.
Thrusters being used with sprint in Halo 5 is merely a visual representation of how it works. Mechanically it’s identical to how it worked before.
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> do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> and thats why there most be found a middle way about it and thats why if the ranket playlist has no sprint option and social playlist have sprint is the middle way for both side’s.
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> > > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > > >
> > > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > > and here is also a good question:
> > > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> > >
> > > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> > >
> > > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> > >
> > > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
> >
> > the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> > and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
>
> Way to suddenly “assume” why I do and don’t like Sprint, since I don’t remember telling you my feelings in either direction.
>
> So they added Sprint so you can’t shoot and run at the same time, then why didn’t Halo 4’s Sprint work out, by your own words, since you can’t shoot and run at the same time there either?
in the end off all the idea’s there have been done on the forum about sprint its no matter how there chance it or remove it there is and will allways stay a group off players thats gone hate it and wane see it diffrend in there way but then you get others that hate it also.
this is maybe the problems the developers have since there see that the comunnety is split about sprint and if there remove it or let it stay the other side are not happy with it that means nobody from both side’s is gone accept it but only keep trying to do it there way.
in the end this will only stay a big problem with 0 solutions that both side’s can accept and deal with.
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> > > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > > >
> > > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > > >
> > > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > > >
> > > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > > and here is also a good question:
> > > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> > >
> > > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> > >
> > > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> > >
> > > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
> >
> > the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> > and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
>
> There we go again with the “You hate this blah blah blah” You can’t tell anyone their feelings, so cool down, or actually be respectful because I don’t think anyone likes your attitude, just shut up. You can still argue your points, but in a respectful way.
first off all is this a disscussion i have with you the answer is no.
second off all if you wane have a good disscusion then why you not start one like some others do also then keep quote others that wane have a good disscusion about it then start your own disscusion about it then we can make a good point about it.
and 3th: the only reason i was telling that to him since he was telling the same thing he has told on a other thread all where this disscusion is also starting.
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> Advanced movement mechanics are often regarded as features and mechanics which add ontop of basic ones.
> Basic mechanics being moving, jumping and crouching.Advanced mechanics would be:
> Sprint, slide, thrust, Charge, hover, ground pound.Some also take into account if an ability has been in the series from the start.Thrusters being used with sprint in Halo 5 is merely a visual representation of how it works. Mechanically it’s identical to how it worked before.
and if some off the Advanced mechanics becoming more basic in that type game that you are see there coming back a lot then its becoming more basic also from that game?
and you see that in all game’s more that what first was Advanced mechanic for that game is more becoming basic for that game.
for exemple: in the Past Cod titels you only got 3 basic kill streaks one titel has chance that with a custom system to let the player pick the 3 kill streaks there wane use in that game and now you see more there are coming back in the other titels and what advanced mechanics was in the first few titels has become more basic.
and you see that also in the matchmaking playlist’s that some off then are first Advanced and few titels later its becoming a basic and part off the game.
more like Living Death playlist that in halo 3 not was standaart but also advanced but in halo reach and halo 4 and 5 it has become more a basic thing for the to let it have there own playlist and not in the rotation more.
thats there point there are doing it to make some Advanced things become more basic in the game to keep trying to make the game more a challance with that mechanic.
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> Does not answer why balance is needed.
if you have a split comunnety about something like sprint that you wane make sure both side’s are happy with it is a balance in the middel that both side’s most accept at some point a good thing there are trying to do.
and this is something the developers are looking for the middel solution about sprint that both side’s at some point most accept and deal with since.
and what the best middel solution for sprint is thats something nobody knows.
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> > > > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > > > >
> > > > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > > > and here is also a good question:
> > > > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> > > >
> > > > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> > > >
> > > > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
> > >
> > > the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> > > and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
> >
> > Way to suddenly “assume” why I do and don’t like Sprint, since I don’t remember telling you my feelings in either direction.
> >
> > So they added Sprint so you can’t shoot and run at the same time, then why didn’t Halo 4’s Sprint work out, by your own words, since you can’t shoot and run at the same time there either?
>
> in the end off all the idea’s there have been done on the forum about sprint its no matter how there chance it or remove it there is and will allways stay a group off players thats gone hate it and wane see it diffrend in there way but then you get others that hate it also.
> this is maybe the problems the developers have since there see that the comunnety is split about sprint and if there remove it or let it stay the other side are not happy with it that means nobody from both side’s is gone accept it but only keep trying to do it there way.
> in the end this will only stay a big problem with 0 solutions that both side’s can accept and deal with.
Notice how so far, I am the only one trying to make a compromise based on why people do and don’t like Sprint?
What you’ve done and make a baseless comment saying “Maybe 343 thought up a magic problem that none of us have seen but also is a secret so they won’t tell us”, while also saying “It’s never going to work so we shouldn’t do anything about it. Stop discussing it because its useless.”
What’s the point of you being part of the discussion if your whole point boils down to “I don’t care what other people feel, nothing will change anyway”?
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> > > > > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
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> > > > > > > Why is that a problem?
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> > > > > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > > > > and here is also a good question:
> > > > > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > > > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > > > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > > > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> > > > >
> > > > > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
> > > >
> > > > the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> > > > and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
> > >
> > > Way to suddenly “assume” why I do and don’t like Sprint, since I don’t remember telling you my feelings in either direction.
> > >
> > > So they added Sprint so you can’t shoot and run at the same time, then why didn’t Halo 4’s Sprint work out, by your own words, since you can’t shoot and run at the same time there either?
> >
> > in the end off all the idea’s there have been done on the forum about sprint its no matter how there chance it or remove it there is and will allways stay a group off players thats gone hate it and wane see it diffrend in there way but then you get others that hate it also.
> > this is maybe the problems the developers have since there see that the comunnety is split about sprint and if there remove it or let it stay the other side are not happy with it that means nobody from both side’s is gone accept it but only keep trying to do it there way.
> > in the end this will only stay a big problem with 0 solutions that both side’s can accept and deal with.
>
> Notice how so far, I am the only one trying to make a compromise based on why people do and don’t like Sprint?
>
> What you’ve done and make a baseless comment saying “Maybe 343 thought up a magic problem that none of us have seen but also is a secret so they won’t tell us”, while also saying “It’s never going to work so we shouldn’t do anything about it. Stop discussing it because its useless.”
> What’s the point of you being part of the discussion if your whole point boils down to “I don’t care what other people feel, nothing will change anyway”?
what is the best compromise thats something we all have diffrend idea’s for what the best way is.
i have share also my idea’s if you read the other thread is:
the halo reach sprint system, make ranked playlist without sprint and soscial with sprint, add 4 playlist’s 2 with sprint ranked and sosial and other 2 without sprint ranked and sosical playlists.
do you see any good solutions that both side’s have accept about the sprint system?
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> I think that sprint should be implemented in Infinite too, modern games are becoming more and more fast paced. A game without at least sprinting would not attract new players****and i think as a Halo Veteran that this mechanic is fundamental to “keep the pace” with present stantards.
I’m sorry but this is just not true. A game doesn’t need x mechanic for it to be successful/popular. Case in point, Overwatch came out in 2016. Only one character had the sprint mechanic and I’m pretty sure no one had ADS style zooming at launch. At the time, those mechanics were pretty popular in most FPS. According to you, this game shouldn’t attract players nor be popular. In your defense, Even a lot of people in the gaming industry weren’t sure how it would do. In reality, It’s been one of the most successful and popular FPS since it’s release. Why? Simple. People found it fun.
I’m also a Halo veteran (started with CE) and Halo doesn’t need x mechanic for it to be successful. It’s just absolutely ridiculous how people/companies can think a game needs x for it to do well. In fact, one could easily argue (as many people have) that since these type of mechanics in particular have been put into Halo, the series has become less successful and less popular.
At the end of the day, the only thing people care about is if the game is FUN!! No if ends or butts! People/companies need to get this through there head.
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> > > > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > > > >
> > > > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > > > and here is also a good question:
> > > > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> > > >
> > > > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> > > >
> > > > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> > > >
> > > > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
> > >
> > > the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> > > and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
> >
> > There we go again with the “You hate this blah blah blah” You can’t tell anyone their feelings, so cool down, or actually be respectful because I don’t think anyone likes your attitude, just shut up. You can still argue your points, but in a respectful way.
>
> first off all is this a disscussion i have with you the answer is no.
> second off all if you wane have a good disscusion then why you not start one like some others do also then keep quote others that wane have a good disscusion about it then start your own disscusion about it then we can make a good point about it.
> and 3th: the only reason i was telling that to him since he was telling the same thing he has told on a other thread all where this disscusion is also starting.
Ok… Fine, do what you want. But I don’t think what you say is correct entirely, half of it doesn’t make sense from any perspective (including business) and Being on mobile is not an excuse to type bad and have REALLY bad English. I’m on mobile, and have actually only written one post on computer… AND I only have a junior high education. But aside that, Sprint should stay out, so should Spartan charge and ground pound. Thrust is a no brainier take out, and slide should be too. Clamber should stay, along with aim stabilizer. It would be a happy medium between fans. And besides, Fortnite only uses Sprint for advanced movement, and look at how successful that was.
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> > > > > > > > do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> > > > > > > > like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both side’s happy.
> > > > > > > > and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So take away Sprint…but move faster anyway.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Why is that a problem?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > If you’re going to tell me “It’s going to be too hard to hit people”, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > what is the first thing you cant do in halo reach,halo 4 and halo 5 matchmaking is running and shooting at the same time thats maybe a reason there have add sprint.
> > > > > > and here is also a good question:
> > > > > > what is now basic moving speed between halo 3 and halo 4.
> > > > > > if the basic moving speed is lower in halo 4 then it was before in halo 3.
> > > > > > and the sprint option was at the same rate as in halo 3 basic moving speed and the only diffrend was that you most choose between walking and shooting or sprinting thats maybe the only reason and since we not know and see what the basic moving speed in halo 3 was and in halo 4 was then we can not tell if the sprint option got a other thing where most off the players in the comunnety not have think about it.
> > > > > > and since only 343 knows it and there not gone tell us this question will not get a answer
> > > > >
> > > > > Except all of what you said is wrong.
> > > > >
> > > > > Halo 5’s base movement speed is the fastest in the series. End of. Remove Sprint and you’re still not going as slow as the other games.
> > > > >
> > > > > You’re basically telling me that a car going 50mph is the same speed as a car going 20mph. It’s mathmatically not true.
> > > >
> > > > the only reason you like to see basic moving speed is going up and sprint be gone is only that you can shoot other players faster then now since you hate the part that you cant sprint and shoot other players at the same time thats the only reason you wane see basic moving speed going up that you can finely shoot and run at the same time.
> > > > and thats also a reason there have add sprint mechanic in halo.
> > >
> > > There we go again with the “You hate this blah blah blah” You can’t tell anyone their feelings, so cool down, or actually be respectful because I don’t think anyone likes your attitude, just shut up. You can still argue your points, but in a respectful way.
> >
> > first off all is this a disscussion i have with you the answer is no.
> > second off all if you wane have a good disscusion then why you not start one like some others do also then keep quote others that wane have a good disscusion about it then start your own disscusion about it then we can make a good point about it.
> > and 3th: the only reason i was telling that to him since he was telling the same thing he has told on a other thread all where this disscusion is also starting.
>
> Ok… Fine, do what you want. But I don’t think what you say is correct entirely, half of it doesn’t make sense from any perspective (including business) and Being on mobile is not an excuse to type bad and have REALLY bad English. I’m on mobile, and have actually only written one post on computer… AND I only have a junior high education. But aside that, Sprint should stay out, so should Spartan charge and ground pound. Thrust is a no brainier take out, and slide should be too. Clamber should stay, along with aim stabilizer. It would be a happy medium between fans. And besides, Fortnite only uses Sprint for advanced movement, and look at how successful that was.
let me tell it this way about sprint.
this disscusion about sprint has split the communety on one side the players that wane remove sprint and the other side the players that like sprint to stay.
and 343 knows this also that the communety is split about sprint.
and since there know you cant make all players happy since if you make all players happy you get a big mass off problems with the game.
and thats something we all not wane see happing with halo.
and since both side’s not wane accept things about sprint you will allways get this crap off problems.
and maybe the reason that halo has become less popular after halo 3 is maybe most off then are playing other game’s more and not care about halo more since there like other game’s and also some new one’s like destiny there like that maybe more.
or playing more online game’s on pc.
it has maybe notting to do with sprint or the new mechanics since nobody can tell what the real reason is since there are a lot off other game’s playable also.
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> > Notice how so far, I am the only one trying to make a compromise based on why people do and don’t like Sprint?
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> > What you’ve done and make a baseless comment saying “Maybe 343 thought up a magic problem that none of us have seen but also is a secret so they won’t tell us”, while also saying “It’s never going to work so we shouldn’t do anything about it. Stop discussing it because its useless.”
> > What’s the point of you being part of the discussion if your whole point boils down to “I don’t care what other people feel, nothing will change anyway”?
>
> what is the best compromise thats something we all have diffrend idea’s for what the best way is.
>
> i have share also my idea’s if you read the other thread is:
> the halo reach sprint system, make ranked playlist without sprint and soscial with sprint, add 4 playlist’s 2 with sprint ranked and sosial and other 2 without sprint ranked and sosical playlists.
By your words, Halo Reach’s Sprint didn’t work so they had to “change it up”, which is what lead to Halo 4’s Sprint. Then that didn’t work, so they change it up again which led to Halo 5’s Sprint, and the cycle continues.
But now you want to go back to what people are no longer used to in a shooter game and go to Halo Reach’s Sprint? But when someone wants to remove Sprint you say it will be just like Halo 3?
Making different playlists for these two styles of play essentially isolates people into their own separate “buckets” just to accomodate for one mechanic. And that still doesn’t solve the map issues, since they have to be designed around Sprint too. Are you going to make Map [with Sprint] and Map [without Sprint] as well?
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> do you see any good solutions that both side’s have accept about the sprint system?
Yes, the solution I brought up. The solution eviltedi brought up. Increse the base movement speed. It’s one less mechanic to learn and you still get the increased speed you get from Sprint.
If there is a problem with that, then explain what the problem is.
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> As in we all have to walk around really slowly and such?
See, I never understood this point of view. Why does sprint need to be included to “speed up the game” when the developers could just up the base movement speed? I know MLG players back in the day bumped Halo 3’s movement speed up to 110%(120%?) because that was the equivalent to Halo 2. For some reason Bungie slowed down movement speed in the third entry.
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> By your words, Halo Reach’s Sprint didn’t work so they had to “change it up”, which is what lead to Halo 4’s Sprint. Then that didn’t work, so they change it up again which led to Halo 5’s Sprint, and the cycle continues.But now you want to go back to what people are no longer used to in a shooter game and go to Halo Reach’s Sprint? But when someone wants to remove Sprint you say it will be just like Halo 3?Making different playlists for these two styles of play essentially isolates people into their own separate “buckets” just to accomodate for one mechanic. And that still doesn’t solve the map issues, since they have to be designed around Sprint too. Are you going to make Map [with Sprint] and Map [without Sprint] as well?
the basic moving speed from halo 3 is 110% if i am right.
the halo reach and halo 4 basic moving speed is 100% but when you use sprint it give’s the extra 10% more and its still the same like in halo 3 but you not see it.
the only reason what chance’s is you most choose by using the 100% basic moving speed and shoot on other players or use the extra 10% moving speed but you cant shoot on other players.
then the basic moving speed not has been chance its only little worse but the only reason is that players wane get remove it more is: **there hate since there cant run and shoot at the same time more thats maybe a reason for then why there wane remove it that the basic moving speed become’s 110% again and there can shoot and use the full moving speed at the same time.**in halo 5 there have give the sprint maybe a extra boost from 20% thanks to the trusters.
thats the reason also why halo reach from bungie has done it with the moving speed and give the extra 10% in a new mechanic.
about the maps is it easy.
do you remember the halo 4 matchmaking basic map list’s.
in the ranked playlist when you go for slayer game type a 4 vs 4 map you get more the small and medium maps in that playlist.
in the social playlist like BTB when its 8 vs 8 i think it was you get more medium and large maps to play and no small maps.
on small maps like Adrift,Abandon,Complex,Solace are more the small maps you play a lot on in a slayer match with 4 vs 4.
on the BTB playlist you get maps like:Vortex,Meltdown,Ragnarok,Longbow and Exile more to play with 16 players in total.
you see large maps where you play a lot more in the BTB playlist is sprint a good option to have and small maps for the slayer playlist was sprint not a good option since it was almost no use to have it.
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> Yes, the solution I brought up. The solution eviltedi brought up. Increse the base movement speed. It’s one less mechanic to learn and you still get the increased speed you get from Sprint.If there is a problem with that, then explain what the problem is.
your idea is maybe good working for on small maps but on large maps is it more worse.
do you remember the large maps on halo 3 good that you think at some point from why there have not add sprint on it since its a large map and walking is making it only slow.
and do you remember the halo reach forge wold matchmaking maps that at some off then sprinting was no use since it was to small to use then and since you also got no time to use then since the it was super easy there to end up in a gun fight since it was small map and the large maps on halo reach make sprint more usefull.
thats why playlist that got 4 vs 4 and are small not need sprint and for the large playlist like 8 vs 8 that play a lot on large maps can have sprint.
or a other idea.
on small maps you cant use sprint and on the large and medium maps you have the option to use sprint thats also a good fix about sprint.
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> your idea is maybe good working for on small maps but on large maps is it more worse.
> do you remember the large maps on halo 3 good that you think at some point from why there have not add sprint on it since its a large map and walking is making it only slow…
Because the maps weren’t made for just walking, they had vehicles and teleporters and man cannons that were faster than walking. So get a vehicle or hop on a man cannon. There were also 16 people on it so chances are you would find someone without a lot of effort.