is a good point, but do not exaggerate with mechanical nonsense LOL
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> Why would i343 be forced to continue on a path that was started, with a spin-off prequel?
> They made a concious decision to make Halo 4 the way they made it.Thereās no use in speculation what might have been.
its easy there give the game a upgrade in each new halo with new things and why most there do then a downgrade hard and moving back to halo 3 style then its a big down grade for the game.
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> You see, most of these ānewā mechanics youāre talking about, saw their debut in the 90ās.
> And as far as I recall, most of these ānewā mechanics werenāt additions to already existing franchises, but features of the first installment in a new series.
> For instance, Clamber, was first seen in Tomb Raider, if Iām not mistaken, sprint in Day of Defeat.No, double jump is not the same as Grav lift and jet pack, there are fundamental differences between all three of them.
it can be that some off the mechanics are working in the 90ās thats something i most trust.
still there have remove the jet pack options its only become trusters and lets you stay for a few secās in the sky.
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> An āupdateā need to bring actual value, just not be there for the sake of having an āupdateā.
> And making an āupdateā to something doesnāt automatically make it good.
here is a good quesiton about it:
why most 343 only focus on old school players what there wane see that there gone buy halo again?
and why cant 343 not add new things in the game that its feels for the new players also happy that its coming with there time and not staying in the past?
and most off the new players that gone buy a new game there never hear from it for the first time there doing first research on it from what it has,how it looks like, and what it doās, and how the game looks like inside when you play it and if there see you cant use sprint or other things the chance maybe for then wil be low to buy it since there see its more a boring game with less fun and thats something you not wane have.
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> What if I want to relax, but not play with sprint?
> What if I want sprint-free campaign?
then you most accept it since you cant make few playlistās with sprint and others without since you get then the same thing from players that not like it that there playlist there like to play is without sprint thats something you most accept
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> > And what the heck are you talking about, why would you want all shooters to be the same and not unique? If I want to play a very modern shooter, Iāll play COD, if I want to play an awesome, unique, more old school shooter, Iāll play bungie era halos and DOOM. I wouldnāt want Halo and DOOM to be just like cod, that would be stupid business, and the gamer who doesnāt like what you like suffers because there is no uniqueness
>
> there is now your point bungie era halos and since bungie is not developing halos more its bye bye bungie era and hallo 343 era with the haloās.
> and if you like to see that bungie is developing halos again then the chance so low that it will never happing more that era is gone.
>
>
>
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> > I guess what I meant was the start is always tough(or in some cases, most of the time) and I like having a dedicated Halo developer. And I mentioned gearbox because Microsoft was actually considering it after bungie left Halo. And I actually wouldāve liked to see what they have in store for Halo, I just mentioned them cause they were relevant.
>
> you wane see that microsoft is asking bungie to developing halo again?
> do you not know bungie left the microsoft studios on there own choose and that means there losing the halo titels also to make.
> and it will never happing that microsoft is gone ask bungie to return to develop halo again and you know that also.
Hey, donāt attack me because I like bungie era halos better, I liked Halo 4 & 5 as a game and as a Halo. They were actually pretty ok. I think 343 just needs to do better. And yes I do believe there are some members, SOMEā¦ That look through rose colored glasses when looking at bungie. But bungie was statistically much better with Halo then 343i. And noā¦ Bungie is not what it used to beā¦ Halo would be better off with 343i as of now. Yes they split off with activision, but they are no longer the legendary team that made Halo. Advanced movement mechanics take away from Halo. Just because you liked it doesnāt mean it has to be how you want it to be. There are other people in this world but just because everyone is bright compared to you, doesnāt mean you can use that as an excuse not to see or think about others. Itās obvious the community liked older Halos better. Donāt try to tell anyone otherwise, youād just make yourself look like an idiotā¦ Oh waitā¦ You already did.
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> > > 2535410737759849;2148:
> > > And what the heck are you talking about, why would you want all shooters to be the same and not unique? If I want to play a very modern shooter, Iāll play COD, if I want to play an awesome, unique, more old school shooter, Iāll play bungie era halos and DOOM. I wouldnāt want Halo and DOOM to be just like cod, that would be stupid business, and the gamer who doesnāt like what you like suffers because there is no uniqueness
> >
> > there is now your point bungie era halos and since bungie is not developing halos more its bye bye bungie era and hallo 343 era with the haloās.
> > and if you like to see that bungie is developing halos again then the chance so low that it will never happing more that era is gone.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2535410737759849;2148:
> > > I guess what I meant was the start is always tough(or in some cases, most of the time) and I like having a dedicated Halo developer. And I mentioned gearbox because Microsoft was actually considering it after bungie left Halo. And I actually wouldāve liked to see what they have in store for Halo, I just mentioned them cause they were relevant.
> >
> > you wane see that microsoft is asking bungie to developing halo again?
> > do you not know bungie left the microsoft studios on there own choose and that means there losing the halo titels also to make.
> > and it will never happing that microsoft is gone ask bungie to return to develop halo again and you know that also.
>
> And noā¦ Bungie is not what it used to beā¦ Halo would be better off with 343i as of now.
I agree. The same can be said for for many studios. A lot are there in name only, and the talent that made the name have since moved on. BioWare, Rare, Bungie and others are a shadow of their former selves imo. I donāt think 343i know how to make Halo, and too much has been removed from the games, however I also think Halo is better with 343i as of now and the Interviews with Bonnie Ross have given me a little hope for itās future.
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> its easy there give the game a upgrade in each new halo with new things and why most there do then a downgrade hard and moving back to halo 3 style then its a big down grade for the game.
Youāre still stuck with the notion that opponents of these movement mechanics want Halo 3, and not other additions which arenāt advanced movement.
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> still there have remove the jet pack options its only become trusters and lets you stay for a few secās in the sky.
Mechanically different.
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> why most 343 only focus on old school players what there wane see that there gone buy halo again?
This question is rooted in the notion that āold vs newā generation, as if the old generation canāt like new Halo, or that the new generation canāt like old Halo.
Then I feel like you imply the ānew generationā only can appreciate a game if it has follows a specific list with implemented mechanics, and value that, instead of a genuinely good game regardless of implemented mechanics.
Furthermore, that question has nothing to do with what you even quoted regarding āupdatesā.
Everyone here has personal preferences, which theyād like i343 to make a reality.
What they should focus on is a solid game which does not implement specific mechanics in an effort to attract an easily persuaded demographic.
That is what I think they should do.
So far, this path theyāve taken with āadvanced movementā and other contemporary mechanics, doesnāt to me seem like it succeeded that well.
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> and why cant 343 not add new things in the game that its feels for the new players also happy that its coming with there time and not staying in the past?
There hasnāt really been an outcry against new things overall, just what has been added.
Taking another path with what to implement does not mean āstay in the pastā.
And even then, consider some of the bigger gaming successes over the years.
-MtG
-Dota
-LoL
-Doom
-CSGO
-Starcraft
-Tekken
Look at different new movies weāve seen, and how they reminscens older movies, or remakes, or recrations, remasters, sequels to really old ones.
Thereās no such thing as āI was born in this year, therefore I like things from that and that year forward and dislike those things of those specific yearsā.
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> and most off the new players that gone buy a new game there never hear from it for the first time there doing first research on it from what it has,how it looks like, and what it doās, and how the game looks like inside when you play it and if there see you cant use sprint or other things the chance maybe for then wil be low to buy it since there see its more a boring game with less fun and thats something you not wane have.
New game with barely any changes since itās inception in the late 90ās, huge amount of sales figures.
Now tell me this, are all these buyers āold playersā?
Or are they players from all ages liking a well polished game?
Also, thatās an assumption that a Halo game lacking the advanced movements, is boring, because so far Iāve only seen you envision Halo 3, with no new additions to it (because it seem you believe āold schoolersā are against all change).
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> then you most accept it since you cant make few playlistās with sprint and others without since you get then the same thing from players that not like it that there playlist there like to play is without sprint thats something you most accept
We canāt make new playlists now?
Iād imagine that the competitive side of Halo would suffer.
The game is not consistent over all modes as ranked would play differently than all other modes.
That would raise the bar of entry for those that want to try it out, so only the most dedicated players would play it, while those who could potentially join in, wouldnāt because to them itād feel too awkward going from mode to mode featuring very different gameplay mechanics.
That suggestion has been suggested before, and itās not a good one.
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> I donāt think 343i know how to make Halo.
If this is in some form out of context, my appologies.
buuut, Iād say that isnāt entirely true: Link.
They had a build that was āthe traditional Haloā, very traditional.
But it was scrapped.
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> > I donāt think 343i know how to make Halo.
>
> If this is in some form out of context, my appologies.
> buuut, Iād say that isnāt entirely true: Link.
>
> They had a build that was āthe traditional Haloā, very traditional.
> But it was scrapped.
No, Iām sure they know how to make a traditional Halo. Iām of the opinion they had massive boots to fill and were struggling with what to do with Halo. Stick to traditional, make it their own, copy popular trends etc. I think if you look at Doom 2016 itās a good example of a game staying true to itās roots and being a modern game. I think 343i need to find that with Halo. I certainly donāt want a re-skin of Halo CE or 2 or 3 or any older game, I just want 343i to make the Halo we loved relevant today. Is that a better way to describe it ?
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> > I think that sprint should be implemented in Infinite too, modern games are becoming more and more fast paced. A game without at least sprinting would not attract new players and i think as a Halo Veteran that this mechanic is fundamental to ākeep the paceā with present stantards.
>
> You should read the rest of this thread, or just pick a part, and itāll explain why this approach isnāt the way that it should be handled. You donāt need the sprint mechanic to run fast. You just need to increase the base movement speed of the player (and maybe increase the fov some) and youāll be moving fast and feel you are as well. The gun-always-up gameplay is the most important aspect to keeping a classic Halo multiplayer.
Its a bit messy but iāll try, sorry! Maybe youāre right but I think the only way to be sure is testing this out and thats where the future infinite flightings should come!
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> > > 2535410737759849;2148:
> > > And what the heck are you talking about, why would you want all shooters to be the same and not unique? If I want to play a very modern shooter, Iāll play COD, if I want to play an awesome, unique, more old school shooter, Iāll play bungie era halos and DOOM. I wouldnāt want Halo and DOOM to be just like cod, that would be stupid business, and the gamer who doesnāt like what you like suffers because there is no uniqueness
> >
> > there is now your point bungie era halos and since bungie is not developing halos more its bye bye bungie era and hallo 343 era with the haloās.
> > and if you like to see that bungie is developing halos again then the chance so low that it will never happing more that era is gone.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > 2535410737759849;2148:
> > > I guess what I meant was the start is always tough(or in some cases, most of the time) and I like having a dedicated Halo developer. And I mentioned gearbox because Microsoft was actually considering it after bungie left Halo. And I actually wouldāve liked to see what they have in store for Halo, I just mentioned them cause they were relevant.
> >
> > you wane see that microsoft is asking bungie to developing halo again?
> > do you not know bungie left the microsoft studios on there own choose and that means there losing the halo titels also to make.
> > and it will never happing that microsoft is gone ask bungie to return to develop halo again and you know that also.
>
> Hey, donāt attack me because I like bungie era halos better, I liked Halo 4 & 5 as a game and as a Halo. They were actually pretty ok. I think 343 just needs to do better. And yes I do believe there are some members, SOMEā¦ That look through rose colored glasses when looking at bungie. But bungie was statistically much better with Halo then 343i. And noā¦ Bungie is not what it used to beā¦ Halo would be better off with 343i as of now. Yes they split off with activision, but they are no longer the legendary team that made Halo. Advanced movement mechanics take away from Halo. Just because you liked it doesnāt mean it has to be how you want it to be. There are other people in this world but just because everyone is bright compared to you, doesnāt mean you can use that as an excuse not to see or think about others. Itās obvious the community liked older Halos better. Donāt try to tell anyone otherwise, youād just make yourself look like an idiotā¦ Oh waitā¦ You already did.
if you like the bungie era then its your opinion thats the same thing as my opinion about most off the mechanics in halo if my opinion is i like to see some off the back and like then in halo then its my opinion about it.
do you see me replay back with thats rude in my way no since its a opinion you can have.
what i see more on this forum in some threads that when people give there own opinion about somethings there like in halo get allways attackt by others since there not like his opinion about things.
to start a disscusion with him from points he disagreeās with my opinion is something diffrend.
i have a good disscusion about sprint with Naqser thats something i accept faster then with some others since there thinking more there are right and others that share a other opinion are wrong.
thats why i told before its becoming forbidden to some off the members on this forum that others share a other opinion about things then some others have and then not start a disscusion with then from sharing the ideaās more from what are his points he likeās about sprint or other things hate and same for sharing the things there hate about it with somebody that likeās it.
why you think i not replay on some others more that quede me since there not care to start a good discussion with me about something i like and there hate.
and here is also something new maybe to you most players that like sprint are not replaying and starting a disscusion with others on threads about it since there know there are getting told there are wrong for there own opinion there stand by for and most share the others opinion or there getting attackt by others without starting a disscusion about it.
thats maybe a big problem we have now in the halo comunnety that first needs to be fix that if a player give there own opinion about something there stand for it and others not like it are getting more hate quots back that there there opinion is wrong and not welcome more on the forum then sure you get that developers not listing to the comunnety more since most off then not all accepts other players opinion and thats maybe a reason why some off then not gone look on the forums that forums become in timeās like this worthless since some off the comunnety members cant accept other opinions.
my question is we gone accept others opinions on this thread and if some others think there going to far all is the opinion the same like yours then its still good to show then there going to far with it and it also means if others think there opinion is right and others wrong is the same that we most tell then there most accept there opinion or he is posting on the wrong thread?
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> Youāre still stuck with the notion that opponents of these movement mechanics want Halo 3, and not other additions which arenāt advanced movement.
if there wane see sprint gone means more like halo 3 for me since it can be halo reach or halo 4 since there both got sprint that there both have diffrend sprint mechanics is something else.
then is notting left more.
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> Mechanically different.
this is something i not know 100% sure but i think there adding jet packs in halo reach more that in the halo 3 campaign you got bruteās using then and who knows somebody whas thinking why let the players not use then also i think there where thinking that more in the developing team from bungie back then with halo reach.
and there where thinking also about some off the missions on halo reach to make it more fun for then.
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> This question is rooted in the notion that āold vs newā generation, as if the old generation canāt like new Halo, or that the new generation canāt like old Halo.
> Then I feel like you imply the ānew generationā only can appreciate a game if it has follows a specific list with implemented mechanics, and value that, instead of a genuinely good game regardless of implemented mechanics.Furthermore, that question has nothing to do with what you even quoted regarding āupdatesā.
> Everyone here has personal preferences, which theyād like i343 to make a reality.
> What they should focus on is a solid game which does not implement specific mechanics in an effort to attract an easily persuaded demographic.
> That is what I think they should do.
> So far, this path theyāve taken with āadvanced movementā and other contemporary mechanics, doesnāt to me seem like it succeeded that well.
that i343 needs to find a good balance between old and new generations is something hard to find since there are a lot off ways to have a good belance and its true when there add in the game there own belance between old and new generations then you get the some players not like the belance and its wrong but thats something hard to find.
the most old generation off players go for sprint free game but then you get that new generation like to see sprint in the game since its something there grow up with same goās for the old generation that grow up without sprint thats something hard to add in the game.
and its not with halo its also with titels like Call of Duty that got this type off problem in there gameās that some old generation off players hate the specialistās in the COD gameās and like to see then gone and others like see then stay in the game.
thats a problem most off the gameās have.
same with fortnite now.
there Remove the health restore for each kill and lot off players hate that update but others like that update and thats something you now see also in gameās like that the comunnety splits up between likeās and disagreeās.
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> New game with barely any changes since itās inception in the late 90ās, huge amount of sales figures.
> Now tell me this, are all these buyers āold playersā?
> Or are they players from all ages liking a well polished game?Also, thatās an assumption that a Halo game lacking the advanced movements, is boring, because so far Iāve only seen you envision Halo 3, with no new additions to it (because it seem you believe āold schoolersā are against all change).
most off then are for PC and are also Free to play and if i read it good it also tells it has more cheaters and bans against cheaters then minecraft.
and gameās like CSGO that its becoming easy to by pass the banns with making new accounts easy and still using hacks is something diffrend.
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> We canāt make new playlists now?
> Iād imagine that the competitive side of Halo would suffer.
> The game is not consistent over all modes as ranked would play differently than all other modes.
> That would raise the bar of entry for those that want to try it out, so only the most dedicated players would play it, while those who could potentially join in, wouldnāt because to them itād feel too awkward going from mode to mode featuring very different gameplay mechanics.That suggestion has been suggested before, and itās not a good one.
you like to see more 4 diffrend playlistās?
2 are social and ranked that have sprint and 2 are social and ranked without sprint?
like i told on this post all its with some things hard to find a good belance between a split comunnety what thinks and wane see diffrend then otherās that disagree with then.
there was all a big disscusion in halo 4 about the JIP system that some hate and others like since it has fix also a problem that other haloās got that you not get unfair teams faster and still some hate it sure that was a easy fix with a option to you wane JIP in a matchs that has startet all or not.
i hope still there bringing back the halo reach sprint mechanics back since it has a limit to use it and if you time it wrong with using it then you get killed each with it.
I see a very low chance of Halo going back to old movement mechanics, unfortunately. Which is a shame, since I cannot get attuned to Halo 4 and 5, though not for lack of trying. All that extra movement stuff just isnāt for me.
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> if there wane see sprint gone means more like halo 3 for me since it can be halo reach or halo 4 since there both got sprint that there both have diffrend sprint mechanics is something else.
> then is notting left more.
So nothing other than Advanced movement can be added?
This list is nothing you need to comment on, it is merely a list of things I personally have talked about over the years.
> -Multi-gravitational maps with Zero-G movement and combat
> -Dodging while in gravity, has to be on the ground, thrusters in Zero-G
> -Extensively fleshed out Firefight with Smart Commanding AI and maps large as New Mombasa
> -Major changes to make Global Ordnance in Halo 4 work in a more competitive way while maintaining the essence of it
> -Re-introduced Health system, regenerating health and Biofoam pickups that regenerate health, but the biofoam depletes so you canāt regenerate health forever if you do not refill your biofoam. The biofoam is stored in the suit and depleted when you need to recharge health, the used biofoam is exponential to the health lost, so for instance a 50% health loss could mean a 90% biofoam depletion.
> -Secondary fire mode for human weapons, alternative fire modes for Covenant weapons, modular weapon combinations for Forerunner weapons
> -Smart AI that learn player behaviour and how to counter it, and how it could be used in Firefight Forge
> -Customization options to add
> -New grenade throwing mechanisms
> -How spartan charge could be made to be more skill oriented, atleast in my eyes, and even work without sprint
> -How Dual-Wielding like it was before could have a useful, or atleast entertaining, re-implementation, even though there are easier ways to do the same thing
> -Very short wall running and jumping
> -Map environmental hazards, objectives, utilities, assets and what else there can be (Lava, Control room to control parts of the map or utilities and assets, lamps, doors, bridges, vehicles spawning etc)
> -Changes to teleporters, introduction of Portal-esque portals from portal (stationary and not player controlled), other traveling methods like travelators, escalators and so forth.
> -Ideas on how a Rampant Cortana in Halo 4 could have had a much greater gameplay impact on the player in the campaign, and been used to make far more interesting missions and objectives.
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> that i343 needs to find a good balance between old and new generations is something hard to find since there are a lot off ways to have a good belance and its true when there add in the game there own belance between old and new generations then you get the some players not like the belance and its wrong but thats something hard to find.
> the most old generation off players go for sprint free game but then you get that new generation like to see sprint in the game since its something there grow up with same goās for the old generation that grow up without sprint thats something hard to add in the game.
> and its not with halo its also with titels like Call of Duty that got this type off problem in there gameās that some old generation off players hate the specialistās in the COD gameās and like to see then gone and others like see then stay in the game.
> thats a problem most off the gameās have.
> same with fortnite now.
> there Remove the health restore for each kill and lot off players hate that update but others like that update and thats something you now see also in gameās like that the comunnety splits up between likeās and disagreeās.
Re-read what I said.
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> most off then are for PC and are also Free to play and if i read it good it also tells it has more cheaters and bans against cheaters then minecraft.
> and gameās like CSGO that its becoming easy to by pass the banns with making new accounts easy and still using hacks is something diffrend.
Nothing of this has anything to do with the high popularity among them, despite the low amount of changed theyāve seen in their life-span.
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> you like to see more 4 diffrend playlistās?
> 2 are social and ranked that have sprint and 2 are social and ranked without sprint?
> like i told on this post all its with some things hard to find a good belance between a split comunnety what thinks and wane see diffrend then otherās that disagree with then.
> there was all a big disscusion in halo 4 about the JIP system that some hate and others like since it has fix also a problem that other haloās got that you not get unfair teams faster and still some hate it sure that was a easy fix with a option to you wane JIP in a matchs that has startet all or not.
Of course I donāt, itās not a good solution.
Why would a balance need to be made?
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> > > 2533274823394867;2157:
> > > > 2535410737759849;2148:
> > > > And what the heck are you talking about, why would you want all shooters to be the same and not unique? If I want to play a very modern shooter, Iāll play COD, if I want to play an awesome, unique, more old school shooter, Iāll play bungie era halos and DOOM. I wouldnāt want Halo and DOOM to be just like cod, that would be stupid business, and the gamer who doesnāt like what you like suffers because there is no uniqueness
> > >
> > > there is now your point bungie era halos and since bungie is not developing halos more its bye bye bungie era and hallo 343 era with the haloās.
> > > and if you like to see that bungie is developing halos again then the chance so low that it will never happing more that era is gone.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > 2535410737759849;2148:
> > > > I guess what I meant was the start is always tough(or in some cases, most of the time) and I like having a dedicated Halo developer. And I mentioned gearbox because Microsoft was actually considering it after bungie left Halo. And I actually wouldāve liked to see what they have in store for Halo, I just mentioned them cause they were relevant.
> > >
> > > you wane see that microsoft is asking bungie to developing halo again?
> > > do you not know bungie left the microsoft studios on there own choose and that means there losing the halo titels also to make.
> > > and it will never happing that microsoft is gone ask bungie to return to develop halo again and you know that also.
> >
> > Hey, donāt attack me because I like bungie era halos better, I liked Halo 4 & 5 as a game and as a Halo. They were actually pretty ok. I think 343 just needs to do better. And yes I do believe there are some members, SOMEā¦ That look through rose colored glasses when looking at bungie. But bungie was statistically much better with Halo then 343i. And noā¦ Bungie is not what it used to beā¦ Halo would be better off with 343i as of now. Yes they split off with activision, but they are no longer the legendary team that made Halo. Advanced movement mechanics take away from Halo. Just because you liked it doesnāt mean it has to be how you want it to be. There are other people in this world but just because everyone is bright compared to you, doesnāt mean you can use that as an excuse not to see or think about others. Itās obvious the community liked older Halos better. Donāt try to tell anyone otherwise, youād just make yourself look like an idiotā¦ Oh waitā¦ You already did.
>
> if you like the bungie era then its your opinion thats the same thing as my opinion about most off the mechanics in halo if my opinion is i like to see some off the back and like then in halo then its my opinion about it.
> do you see me replay back with thats rude in my way no since its a opinion you can have.
> what i see more on this forum in some threads that when people give there own opinion about somethings there like in halo get allways attackt by others since there not like his opinion about things.
> to start a disscusion with him from points he disagreeās with my opinion is something diffrend.
> i have a good disscusion about sprint with Naqser thats something i accept faster then with some others since there thinking more there are right and others that share a other opinion are wrong.
> thats why i told before its becoming forbidden to some off the members on this forum that others share a other opinion about things then some others have and then not start a disscusion with then from sharing the ideaās more from what are his points he likeās about sprint or other things hate and same for sharing the things there hate about it with somebody that likeās it.
> why you think i not replay on some others more that quede me since there not care to start a good discussion with me about something i like and there hate.
> and here is also something new maybe to you most players that like sprint are not replaying and starting a disscusion with others on threads about it since there know there are getting told there are wrong for there own opinion there stand by for and most share the others opinion or there getting attackt by others without starting a disscusion about it.
> thats maybe a big problem we have now in the halo comunnety that first needs to be fix that if a player give there own opinion about something there stand for it and others not like it are getting more hate quots back that there there opinion is wrong and not welcome more on the forum then sure you get that developers not listing to the comunnety more since most off then not all accepts other players opinion and thats maybe a reason why some off then not gone look on the forums that forums become in timeās like this worthless since some off the comunnety members cant accept other opinions.
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> my question is we gone accept others opinions on this thread and if some others think there going to far all is the opinion the same like yours then its still good to show then there going to far with it and it also means if others think there opinion is right and others wrong is the same that we most tell then there most accept there opinion or he is posting on the wrong thread?
Ok, I can have a normal conversation with everybody on here, except when they demean everybodyās opinion thatās not theirs. I used to argue FOR Sprint on this thread, eviltedi would knowā¦ But youāre just straight up attacking everyone, weāve always had normal conversations against other ideas on this thread. But we didnāt demean other opinions ( other than people like you) and we argued respectfully. So stop tossing around"You just hate others opinionsā¦ You donāt want change old school playersā¦ You need to have the same mechanics in every game." Because lots of us on this forums, our first Halo games were 4&5 Then we played mcc, and enjoyed 2&3 more, I respect your opinion, but I donāt respect your attitude, Iāve watched it for a bit on this thread and I have not liked it, so stop making accusations, and please type betterā¦ Because we also may be getting the wrong idea( though I highly doubt it)
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> thats why i told before its becoming forbidden to some off the members on this forum that others share a other opinion about things then some others have and then not start a disscusion with then from sharing the ideaās more from what are his points he likeās about sprint or other things hate and same for sharing the things there hate about it with somebody that likeās it.
> why you think i not replay on some others more that quede me since there not care to start a good discussion with me about something i like and there hate.
> and here is also something new maybe to you most players that like sprint are not replaying and starting a disscusion with others on threads about it since there know there are getting told there are wrong for there own opinion there stand by for and most share the others opinion or there getting attackt by others without starting a disscusion about it.
This is coming from the same person that tried to determine who is a ātrue Halo fanā and generalized peopleās opinions based on that?
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> a true halo fan what i see more is a player that has play from Halo CE thill Halo 5 and still likeās it to play the haloās in campaigns and multiplayer and have chance there play style in the halo series.
> it can still have there opinion about things like sprint or other things but there have not stop playing.
> but a player that tells he is a true halo fan and has play halo CE 2,3 and little reach and have stop playing halo gameās is not a true halo fan in my eyes since he thinks what is better will he is not playing the full halo game becurse he/she not likeās the way the halo gameās are going with after halo 4 then its not a true fan that in my eyes.
A lot of people are mistaking fans of the classic halo experience to want a clone of CE, 2, or 3. Thats not at all what we want. We just want a game that innovates in a way that doesnāt destroy the integrity of the halo gameplay. After the MCC was announced for PC the team for the fan made PC halo game installation 01 announced the MCC coming to PC doesnāt change anything they still wished to offer a fresh and new classic halo experience. (Not exactly what they said word for word) Classic halo doesnāt mean changing nothing, and releasing the same game every 3 years, and worshiping bungie. It simply means maintaining a style of gameplay that was incredibly successful and was unique to halo.
I believe a reach style system should be implemented with jetpack, sprint, etc. This system would balance what the players want and in my opinion would be the best solution.
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> So nothing other than Advanced movement can be added?This list is nothing you need to comment on, it is merely a list of things I personally have talked about over the years.
what is Advanced movement then.
if its sprint then its notting advanced about it.
if its with trusters for extra sprint speed then its advanced.
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> Of course I donāt, itās not a good solution.
> Why would a balance need to be made?
do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both sideās happy.
and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
and thats why there most be found a middle way about it and thats why if the ranket playlist has no sprint option and social playlist have sprint is the middle way for both sideās.
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> I believe a reach style system should be implemented with jetpack, sprint, etc. This system would balance what the players want and in my opinion would be the best solution.
there is a high chance there gone add the reach style system back in the next halo titels.
but then you get the hate about jetpacks sprint and keep on with it again what most players hate about the halo reach system.
like i have told plenty off timeās you cant make all players happy with a lot off chanceās.
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> do you understand now how hard it is for developers to make a good belance and listing to the feedback about the sprint idea.
> like it has been told all on the other thread about sprint that has become hot more and its to see on that thread that the comunnety is split from sprint to be gone and sprint to stay that its become almost hard to make both sideās happy.
> and there know if you remove it or let it stay the other side from the comunnety is never gone be happy about it.
So take away Sprintā¦but move faster anyway.
Why is that a problem?
If youāre going to tell me āItās going to be too hard to hit peopleā, that claim is flawed because Halo 5 already moves faster than previous games without Sprint.
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> I believe a reach style system should be implemented with jetpack, sprint, etc. This system would balance what the players want and in my opinion would be the best solution.
I doubt they would go back to armor abilities after the backlash that Reach and 4 got.