The real reason for no in-game CSR?

I heard someone say that CSR is not in-game NOT because of boosters or cheaters but because the game wasn’t developed and shipped to support in-game CSR. Meaning, that they simply can’t program in-game CSR at this point because they didn’t include the code in the disc to allow for it to be programmed. Therefore they have to add the CSR externally via Halo Waypoint.

Now, personally, I’d think that in the technology age we live in it would seem possible to add it as DLC or in a TU but I know nothing about programming or code. Any tech guys out there that can confirm or rebut this?

Thanks.

No, it’s because if your CSR is visible in game people will sell those accounts when they reach the top. People with no skill that use those accounts screw up TrueSkill, which screws up matchmaking. Otherwise, the code they have written was not ready when the game released, but it never was intended to show CSR in game. They have said on several occasions that CSR will not be visible in game.

> No, it’s because if your CSR is visible in game people will sell those accounts when they reach the top. People with no skill that use those accounts screw up TrueSkill, which screws up matchmaking. Otherwise, the code they have written was not ready when the game released, but it never was intended to show CSR in game. They have said on several occasions that CSR will not be visible in game.

that is a lame excuse that could have been fixed with better design. the real reason is they want to hold everybody’s hand. god forbid somebody should fail at something in this day and age. they just didn’t want noobs to get upset when they can’t achieve the rank they think they deserve. Take a look at this thread for what they should have done

dont really understand how it was overlooked considering people have been begging for it scene reach was released

> People with no skill that use those accounts screw up TrueSkill, which screws up matchmaking.

Where do people come up with this rubbish?

That is not even remotely true.

Not only is “account selling” rare but it has no affect on matchmaking. A play with a 50 who doesn’t play on it is no different than a played with a 20 who doesn’t play on it or someone who doesn’t play ranked altogether. If they do play on it, they will quickly drop to their true skill level without any mentionable ammount of “damage” to other players ranks.

And the solutions for “account selling” are extremely simple.

Highest skill is dynamic instead of set in stone. Ranks fall when you don’t play on them. Bam, account selling is pointless because all you will be buying is a level 50 that you will have for a day, maybe a week if you’re lucky and than it would be completely worthless. No one would buy another 50 every week.

> I heard someone say that CSR is not in-game NOT because of boosters or cheaters but because the game wasn’t developed and shipped to support in-game CSR. Meaning, that they simply can’t program in-game CSR at this point because they didn’t include the code in the disc to allow for it to be programmed. Therefore they have to add the CSR externally via Halo Waypoint.
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> Now, personally, I’d think that in the technology age we live in it would seem possible to add it as DLC or in a TU but I know nothing about programming or code. Any tech guys out there that can confirm or rebut this?
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> Thanks.

As a senior level software engineer, I can tell you that this explanation is plausible. None of us have insight into their code base to know what the real details might be to this particular point, so we cannot validate the comment.

People think coding is easy. 343 is NOT coding for ONE person. They are coding for a million people. A million people that have data flowing in from millions of games each day. Millions of games of data that needs to be simultaneously logged, collated, correlated and examined, then presented for consumption on numerous platforms (PC, tablet, iOs, Android, etc.). The backend work that goes into making sure this process is relatively seamless is astounding. The fact you get ANY CSR should be politely acknowledged and thanked and stop -Yoinking!- about how it isn’t “exactly what I want, because I want whatever I am want and I want it NOW!”

Best advice I’ve ever been given (and give out): If you don’t understand how the ENTIRE process works, don’t complain.

> > I heard someone say that CSR is not in-game NOT because of boosters or cheaters but because the game wasn’t developed and shipped to support in-game CSR. Meaning, that they simply can’t program in-game CSR at this point because they didn’t include the code in the disc to allow for it to be programmed. Therefore they have to add the CSR externally via Halo Waypoint.
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> > Now, personally, I’d think that in the technology age we live in it would seem possible to add it as DLC or in a TU but I know nothing about programming or code. Any tech guys out there that can confirm or rebut this?
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> > Thanks.
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> As a senior level software engineer, I can tell you that this explanation is plausible. None of us have insight into their code base to know what the real details might be to this particular point, so we cannot validate the comment.

mass effect 3 did it for their multiplayer which is actually secondary to their single player. why can’t 343 do it

> > > I heard someone say that CSR is not in-game NOT because of boosters or cheaters but because the game wasn’t developed and shipped to support in-game CSR. Meaning, that they simply can’t program in-game CSR at this point because they didn’t include the code in the disc to allow for it to be programmed. Therefore they have to add the CSR externally via Halo Waypoint.
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> > > Now, personally, I’d think that in the technology age we live in it would seem possible to add it as DLC or in a TU but I know nothing about programming or code. Any tech guys out there that can confirm or rebut this?
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> > > Thanks.
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> > As a senior level software engineer, I can tell you that this explanation is plausible. None of us have insight into their code base to know what the real details might be to this particular point, so we cannot validate the comment.
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> mass effect 3 did it for their multiplayer which is actually secondary to their single player. why can’t 343 do it

Without wanting to get too in-depth, it depends on how the game is coded, and how that code is “arranged”. It’s not as simple as simply adding in new stuff - there’s every chance the game’s programming does not allow for “modular” additions unless it was designed that way from the ground up (ie. World of Warcraft). Adding in a feature that was never designed to be a feature could well involve a complete rewrite of whole swathes of the game code, which is unfeasible for any number of reasons, mainly cost/time.

Here’s a shocker… because you wont be matched with players of equal skill and they don’t want you to see it.

Its true, each team will be more or less evenly matched and it will be a decent game if every pony stays to play… but seeing that everybody has been thrown in and it looks pretty even. BAM, the top ranked player on your team leaves meaning the average skill of the enemy team is much higher than the average skill on your team. Do you stay or do you quit? Smart answer, is you quit.

With the way players are matched in this game. Visible ranks will be like an admition of guilt that the matchmaking system matches cumulative team and not individual skill. Thats not a bad thing, just players will rage because they don’t understand it.